OHMSS?: Watching Connery's Bond after the Scottish Referendum...

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    But for me, this event is a mere litmus test of something bigger here in America. I'm saddened by and worried for this generation and at the rate of how US society is degenerating in so many ways that affect how people relate to one another, I'm more worried for my kids.

    I'm with you, my friend. :#
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    But for me, this event is a mere litmus test of something bigger here in America. I'm saddened by and worried for this generation and at the rate of how US society is degenerating in so many ways that affect how people relate to one another, I'm more worried for my kids.

    I'm with you, my friend. :#

    It's not just the U.S., I'm afraid!
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    What astonishes me is that despite the 24 hr news cycle and immediate information everyone can get who is hooked up to the web, they are even more ignorant than before (or perhaps I just have a skewed perception of this). Ask them what some celebrity is up to and they can tell you in minute detail (clothes/relationships/recent purchases) but ask them about some historic event like we are discussing and there's a blank stare. It's really sad....
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Yes, that a Symptom of Society today :#
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,104Chief of Staff
    I thought it was just me that felt that way. Glad to see I'm not alone.
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    I think the problem is that although most people have access to unprecedented news and information, they choose to avoid it all completely. I recently met a young journalism student who knew absolutely nothing that was going on in the world. I asked why they wanted to be a journalist and they said "because it sounds cool." I asked if they wanted to cover music, entertainment, sports...and they said"news." Yet they admitted they never watch the news, read the news, listen to the news. Bizarre, but likely not unique.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think one of the good things about the Scottish vote, was showing
    How clued up the 16/17year olds were. Who for the first time were allowed
    To vote. {[] I hope this will be expanded to many more elections ! {[]
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,104Chief of Staff
    And that's what Alex Salmond has been saying, and probably Nicola Sturgeon will continue to say. Agreeing with TP, since my son was deeply interested in this vote and like many others took the time and trouble to do research, get into debates, and avoid a kneejerk reaction.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    My daughter is very interested in politics ( the world, hasn't broken her spirit yet :)) ).
    She does work, part-time to help build up the university fund, and My view is if you're
    Old enough to pay taxes, then you should have the vote. To help chose the people
    Spending your taxes. :))
    Also from watching a few debates on the Scottish referendum with young people
    I found them very interesting and they certainly brought up many points the older
    Politicians missed.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,104Chief of Staff
    ...or chose to ignore!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) Well, that's why they're politicians. :D if they can't blind
    You with brilliance, then they'll bamboozle you with bullsh*t ! :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Barbel wrote:
    Whatever happens on Thursday, it will not change my view of

    (a) Sean Connery
    (b) James Bond
    (c) Sean Connery as James Bond

    If anyone is wondering what those views are, then

    (a) a genuine superstar, able to lift almost any movie simply by being in it
    (b) the greatest hero figure of the 20th and perhaps the 21st century
    (c) the best embodiment of that hero

    Yes, yes and yes! -{

    Cheers to that! -{ :007)
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    "I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
    "Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
  • David SchofieldDavid Schofield EnglandPosts: 1,528MI6 Agent
    Apparently, a despatch box has just been opened at the merchant bankers Flemings. The box, marked "IF", is known to have belonged to Ian Fleming, and has now only been explicitly opened on orders left by Fleming in his lifetime. Thus:

    "Should the Scottish people be persuaded by a fantasy propaganda movie released by an alcoholic Nazi to pursue an Independence Referendum, the following is to be added to the James Bond canon;"

    'James Bond realised some thing was wrong. Knew he always had. Andrew Bond had, after all, been a short, ginger haired man with a red beard and a ruddy complexion. Monique De La Croix was tall and slim and blond. He, James Bond, was dark haired, tanned and of strong build. The man, Earnest Shufflebothamwaite, the junior representative from Vickers who visited them, he recalled, at their house and stayed for a while, was all those things, too. So, Bond conceded, he wasn't Bond at all. He was James Shufflebothamwaite. It meant, unfortunately, that Monique hadn't been the most loyal of wives, but he could see that lack of virtue in his own relationships. But he knew one thing. He had no Scottish blood at all. His line was Swiss-Lancastrian. He knew he could never be James Shufflebothamthwaite, would always be James Bond. But he was always going to be British now. No monster would ever take away that freedom"
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,104Chief of Staff
    :))

    It does have a ring to it! "Shufflebothamthwaite is back!"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    " There's trouble at mill, Bond !"
    " I'll sithee ! ". replied 007. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    :))

    At least Daniel Craig can use his real accent now....
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,104Chief of Staff
    On that subject, I wonder if there's any mileage in opening up a debate on the merits of the voices of the various Bond actors? After all, the voice is one of the most essential parts of an actor's equipment.

    (1) SEAN CONNERY Iconic, and one of the shtandard voicesh in any impershonator's repertoire: easy to identify, but so hard to do accurately, and a large part of his appeal.

    (2) GEORGE LAZENBY Did surprisingly well, though no match for Connery or Moore

    (3) ROGER MOORE Very professional, a unique delivery, and undeniably appealing- probably nearly as iconic as Connery

    (4) TIMOTHY DALTON Earnest and polished

    (5) PIERCE BROSNAN Much as I love his Bond, and his delivery of the lines is well thought out, his voice is one of his weaker assets

    (6) DANIEL CRAIG Much as I don't love his Bond, he can carry off the lines very well

    +
    DAVID NIVEN His voice can do no wrong even with the silliest script
    BARRY NELSON 99% wrong
    TOBY STEPHENS Surprisingly good (better than his Philip Marlowe)
    MICHAEL JAYSTON Very impressive

    If anyone wants to discuss this, I'd be happy to open a dedicated thread.
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,871MI6 Agent
    Apparently, a despatch box has just been opened at the merchant bankers Flemings. The box, marked "IF", is known to have belonged to Ian Fleming, and has now only been explicitly opened on orders left by Fleming in his lifetime. Thus:

    "Should the Scottish people be persuaded by a fantasy propaganda movie released by an alcoholic Nazi to pursue an Independence Referendum, the following is to be added to the James Bond canon;"

    'James Bond realised some thing was wrong. Knew he always had. Andrew Bond had, after all, been a short, ginger haired man with a red beard and a ruddy complexion. Monique De La Croix was tall and slim and blond. He, James Bond, was dark haired, tanned and of strong build. The man, Earnest Shufflebothamwaite, the junior representative from Vickers who visited them, he recalled, at their house and stayed for a while, was all those things, too. So, Bond conceded, he wasn't Bond at all. He was James Shufflebothamwaite. It meant, unfortunately, that Monique hadn't been the most loyal of wives, but he could see that lack of virtue in his own relationships. But he knew one thing. He had no Scottish blood at all. His line was Swiss-Lancastrian. He knew he could never be James Shufflebothamthwaite, would always be James Bond. But he was always going to be British now. No monster would ever take away that freedom"

    I'm very glad to see that satire is still alive and well and living on AJB!
    Well done David! :)) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    On the subject of Bond's Voice

    Connery, as already stated by Barbel, an icon. Deep, manly and used to
    Giving orders
    Lazenby, sounded youthful, perhaps an officer in training, but having authority.
    Moore, very much the "seducer" mellow and charming, but without much
    Gravitas.
    Dalton, rich, well toned, very much as I imagine Bond may well have spoken.
    Brosnan, a bit light and with less authority than others
    Craig, similar to Dalton, a modern, rich voice.

    David Niven, well come on it's David Niven. :))
    Barry Nelson, No not Bond
    Toby Stephens, a little too light for my liking, I'd prefer a little more bass.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    David rintoul gave Bond a brilliant Voice in the Bond Audio Books he did -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes I have those, very good. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Shame he didn't do all of the Books though -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    At least he did all the Fleming Books, so there is a bit of continuity. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • David SchofieldDavid Schofield EnglandPosts: 1,528MI6 Agent
    Anthony Valentine on THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS AND QUANTUM OF SOLACE is the best Bond voice, IMO. But Rintoul is the best voice other than that, except when he drifts off into his cod-Connery impersonation. Oddly, in his version of Pearson's AUTHORISED BIOGRAPHY he seems to use an altogether different, blandly more English accent for Bond...

    Stephens is pretty bad on CARTE BLANCHE, though his radio-Bond is the best part of the am-dram farce of them all. Jeffrey Northam's DEVIL MAY CARE is appauling.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    At least he did all the Fleming Books, so there is a bit of continuity. :)


    Here you go Mate

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJZ9BK1jlY&list=UUEal-vXDh0vRRyx1lfDUyoA&index=4

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    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    {[] Just added to my favoutites. -{ should help pass a few plesant hours. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    There's one for NDMB, but the Audio Quality is horrible.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,871MI6 Agent
    At least he did all the Fleming Books, so there is a bit of continuity. :)


    Here you go Mate

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJZ9BK1jlY&list=UUEal-vXDh0vRRyx1lfDUyoA&index=4

    -{

    Thank you also, AOS - that's a great find and I see my beloved NSF is there too! :) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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