I have done likewise and sadly, this looks like it's going to be as good as it gets. I say sadly because other than being a signed and numbered 1st edition (1 of 1000) and having sprayed end papers, there isn't really anything 'special' about it. One also has to bare in mind that Horowitz will doubtless be signing hundreds around the country at events so, it won't really be 1 of 1000 at all!
What's more, they say they won't be shipping it until October? Nearly a month after launch. Why on earth they can't get themselves organised to ship on the day of publication, God only knows?
One of the most beautiful things I have in my collection is the Bentley edition of CR - it really is fabulous — and I was hoping like hell that they would be doing a special edition, especially with TM's motor sport content.
Unfortunately, this won't be happening. I have it on good authority that eon have given them a shot across their bows by inferring that they were infringing their 'Bond' rights as they have all the non-book merchandise licensing rights and that by making a book with Bentley, they were creating a link with their car.
A little tenuous if you ask me but Bentley didn't want the hassle so they've stopped.
This probably explains a lot when it comes to the marketing of the books — why, for instance Rolex don't do a tie up as the real Bond watch etc..etc.…
Frankly, somebody at IFP (formerly Gildrose) was asleep at the switch when they let eon sweep the board and it's a damn shame for the literary franchise as it doubtless limits marketing options.
This, plus the e-book peril, gives all the more reason why publishers should come up with really special first editions. I'm a huge James Ellroy fan and Waterston's had a truly beautiful limited 1st edition of 'Perfidia' with dramatically enhanced cover art. This is the sort of thing that Orion should be doing for TM particularly given the lacklustre jacket they have selected for the hardback edition.
I have done likewise and sadly, this looks like it's going to be as good as it gets. I say sadly because other than being a signed and numbered 1st edition (1 of 1000) and having sprayed end papers, there isn't really anything 'special' about it. One also has to bare in mind that Horowitz will doubtless be signing hundreds around the country at events so, it won't really be 1 of 1000 at all!
What's more, they say they won't be shipping it until October? Nearly a month after launch. Why on earth they can't get themselves organised to ship on the day of publication, God only knows?
One of the most beautiful things I have in my collection is the Bentley edition of CR - it really is fabulous — and I was hoping like hell that they would be doing a special edition, especially with TM's motor sport content.
Unfortunately, this won't be happening. I have it on good authority that eon have given them a shot across their bows by inferring that they were infringing their 'Bond' rights as they have all the non-book merchandise licensing rights and that by making a book with Bentley, they were creating a link with their car.
A little tenuous if you ask me but Bentley didn't want the hassle so they've stopped.
This probably explains a lot when it comes to the marketing of the books — why, for instance Rolex don't do a tie up as the real Bond watch etc..etc.…
Frankly, somebody at IFP (formerly Gildrose) was asleep at the switch when they let eon sweep the board and it's a damn shame for the literary franchise as it doubtless limits marketing options.
This, plus the e-book peril, gives all the more reason why publishers should come up with really special first editions. I'm a huge James Ellroy fan and Waterston's had a truly beautiful limited 1st edition of 'Perfidia' with dramatically enhanced cover art. This is the sort of thing that Orion should be doing for TM particularly given the lacklustre jacket they have selected for the hardback edition.
Are the novels in anyway important, in keeping up the Bond
Copyrights ? As it's an on going character and not a dead one
( in that there were no continuing novels) like Sherlock Holmes.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I have done likewise and sadly, this looks like it's going to be as good as it gets. I say sadly because other than being a signed and numbered 1st edition (1 of 1000) and having sprayed end papers, there isn't really anything 'special' about it. One also has to bare in mind that Horowitz will doubtless be signing hundreds around the country at events so, it won't really be 1 of 1000 at all!
What's more, they say they won't be shipping it until October? Nearly a month after launch. Why on earth they can't get themselves organised to ship on the day of publication, God only knows?
One of the most beautiful things I have in my collection is the Bentley edition of CR - it really is fabulous — and I was hoping like hell that they would be doing a special edition, especially with TM's motor sport content.
Unfortunately, this won't be happening. I have it on good authority that eon have given them a shot across their bows by inferring that they were infringing their 'Bond' rights as they have all the non-book merchandise licensing rights and that by making a book with Bentley, they were creating a link with their car.
A little tenuous if you ask me but Bentley didn't want the hassle so they've stopped.
This probably explains a lot when it comes to the marketing of the books — why, for instance Rolex don't do a tie up as the real Bond watch etc..etc.…
Frankly, somebody at IFP (formerly Gildrose) was asleep at the switch when they let eon sweep the board and it's a damn shame for the literary franchise as it doubtless limits marketing options.
This, plus the e-book peril, gives all the more reason why publishers should come up with really special first editions. I'm a huge James Ellroy fan and Waterston's had a truly beautiful limited 1st edition of 'Perfidia' with dramatically enhanced cover art. This is the sort of thing that Orion should be doing for TM particularly given the lacklustre jacket they have selected for the hardback edition.
After all, where would EON be without the novels?
Too bloody true!
Personally, I think that Fleming's literary interests and the associated Bond continuation franchise has not been well managed.
I really don't think EON give a flying about the continuations, the incompetence of the IFP ladies notwithstanding
They'd' probably be happier if they didn't exist, so they could happily get on with making movies about their ageing fitness fanatic, his sales rep watches and fancy cars.
Where would EON be without lit Bond? Well, as we talking about crud by Faulks, Deaver, Boyd and Horowitz unseen effort - happier. Sure they have a huge debt to Ian Fleming but he isn't writing Bond anymore.
I really don't think EON give a flying about the continuations, the incompetence of the IFP ladies notwithstanding
They'd' probably be happier if they didn't exist, so they could happily get on with making movies about their ageing fitness fanatic, his sales rep watches and fancy cars.
Where would EON be without lit Bond? Well, as we talking about crud by Faulks, Deaver, Boyd and Horowitz unseen effort - happier. Sure they have a huge debt to Ian Fleming but he isn't writing Bond anymore.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
I really don't think EON give a flying about the continuations, the incompetence of the IFP ladies notwithstanding
They'd' probably be happier if they didn't exist, so they could happily get on with making movies about their ageing fitness fanatic, his sales rep watches and fancy cars.
Where would EON be without lit Bond? Well, as we talking about crud by Faulks, Deaver, Boyd and Horowitz unseen effort - happier. Sure they have a huge debt to Ian Fleming but he isn't writing Bond anymore.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
I really don't think EON give a flying about the continuations, the incompetence of the IFP ladies notwithstanding
They'd' probably be happier if they didn't exist, so they could happily get on with making movies about their ageing fitness fanatic, his sales rep watches and fancy cars.
Where would EON be without lit Bond? Well, as we talking about crud by Faulks, Deaver, Boyd and Horowitz unseen effort - happier. Sure they have a huge debt to Ian Fleming but he isn't writing Bond anymore.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
Im not really surprised that there is no news (of yet anyhow) of a Bentley edition.
This is simply due to the fact that they still cant shift the 500 ltd Casino Royale Bentley Edition from several years ago!!! I know this as I just bought a brand new one direct from the publishers (random house) for half the price they originally retailed for and they have (or did have) more on eBay!!
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
Not sure he was restricting his opinion about EON's control freakery to the Bentley CR edition....
However, the Bentley CR Edition is a tribute to a classic novel and a well deserved, beautiful edition. The other Bentley editions, DMC and CB, seem, IMO, to be a total waste of time, the literary quality far exceeded by the craftsmanship of the bookbinders art. Lovely books, but garbage iniside. Whatever short term premium there may be for these two must surely drop over time when reality dawns: who wants glorious editions of two of the worst continuations ever?
On that basis, regardless of any EON strong arming, I do wonder where the true benefit ot Bentley might be in a TM edition. Sure, they will have seen proofs, it might become the classic continuation we have waited for. It might be another dud.
Can't see it taking much, therefore, to put Bentley (and Rolex) off. The public image of James Bond has nothing to do with their brands anymore. A small, exlsuive group of IF fans, yes, but beyond that, no.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
Not sure he was restricting his opinion about EON's control freakery to the Bentley CR edition....
However, the Bentley CR Edition is a tribute to a classic novel and a well deserved, beautiful edition. The other Bentley editions, DMC and CB, seem, IMO, to be a total waste of time, the literary quality far exceeded by the craftsmanship of the bookbinders art. Lovely books, but garbage iniside. Whatever short term premium there may be for these two must surely drop over time when reality dawns: who wants glorious editions of two of the worst continuations ever?
On that basis, regardless of any EON strong arming, I do wonder where the true benefit ot Bentley might be in a TM edition. Sure, they will have seen proofs, it might become the classic continuation we have waited for. It might be another dud.
Can't see it taking much, therefore, to put Bentley (and Rolex) off. The public image of James Bond has nothing to do with their brands anymore. A small, exlsuive group of IF fans, yes, but beyond that, no.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
Thank you, I was referring primarily to CR as that was the one that rattled eon's cage.
Im not really surprised that there is no news (of yet anyhow) of a Bentley edition.
This is simply due to the fact that they still cant shift the 500 ltd Casino Royale Bentley Edition from several years ago!!! I know this as I just bought a brand new one direct from the publishers (random house) for half the price they originally retailed for and they have (or did have) more on eBay!!
The reason you were so lucky welshboy78 is because Bentley were prohibited from marketing said item and had to flog them off on e-bay. Good for you and isn't it completely beautiful.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
Not sure he was restricting his opinion about EON's control freakery to the Bentley CR edition....
However, the Bentley CR Edition is a tribute to a classic novel and a well deserved, beautiful edition. The other Bentley editions, DMC and CB, seem, IMO, to be a total waste of time, the literary quality far exceeded by the craftsmanship of the bookbinders art. Lovely books, but garbage iniside. Whatever short term premium there may be for these two must surely drop over time when reality dawns: who wants glorious editions of two of the worst continuations ever?
On that basis, regardless of any EON strong arming, I do wonder where the true benefit ot Bentley might be in a TM edition. Sure, they will have seen proofs, it might become the classic continuation we have waited for. It might be another dud.
Can't see it taking much, therefore, to put Bentley (and Rolex) off. The public image of James Bond has nothing to do with their brands anymore. A small, exlsuive group of IF fans, yes, but beyond that, no.
I certainly wouldn't defend DMC, CB or SOLO as books - they were all dire - but I think TM will be the one that brakes thru' and I'd have loved to see a Bentley edition.
Thanks for the info - I did not realise this. So EON put the hold on Bentley??
I have not received it yet as forwarded it to my shippers - does look stunning and looking forward to opening it!
EDIT - just re-read your original post! Sounds complicated and a little bizarre
You are in for a huge treat when you receive this and you should post your reaction here.
In my opinion, it's the most luxurious and beautiful edition of any Fleming work ever produced and I actually prefer it to the Queen Ann Press edition (£14000 per set!).
Bentley & Random House did a fabulous job on 'Casino Royale'. As befits Fleming's first and possibly most famous work, the design with its Bentley grill spine, mulliner leather binding and incredible illustrations will, I think, make it along with a 1953 JC first, the ultimate Bond edition.
It's way ahead of the work they did for DMC & CB, both (literary content excluded) were good and now sell for significant sums.
Bentley & Random published the limited CR edition (only 500 made) to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the novel and its release coincided with the release of SOLO, when Boyd put Bond into a Jensen Interceptor! Go figure - I bet that made Bentley feel great about their Bond relationship.
Still not overly convinced that EON turned their guns on Bentley at some time since 2008, during or after the publication of three volumes, nor that Bentley, a prestige car manufacturer that really doesn't need EON, would respond well, that part of the restriction involved Bentley/Random House not being able to advertse their latest
r books, nor that EON could see a threat therein. Unless one believes EON are totally paranoid, there is no - to me - obvious logic.
Seems to me that Boyd's use of a Jensen brought a natural end to the Bentley continuation connection.
But no matter. I certainly wouldn't spend upwards of £750 on a Leather continuation, and I have every hardback first to CR. To me, the best continuation specials are the signed, numbered slipcased editions of the early Higsons. A similar edition of TM would do me nicely. The Goldboro edition will have to suffice instead.
Still not overly convinced that EON turned their guns on Bentley at some time since 2008, during or after the publication of three volumes, nor that Bentley, a prestige car manufacturer that really doesn't need EON, would respond well, that part of the restriction involved Bentley/Random House not being able to advertse their latest
r books, nor that EON could see a threat therein. Unless one believes EON are totally paranoid, there is no - to me - obvious logic.
Seems to me that Boyd's use of a Jensen brought a natural end to the Bentley continuation connection.
But no matter. I certainly wouldn't spend upwards of £750 on a Leather continuation, and I have every hardback first to CR. To me, the best continuation specials are the signed, numbered slipcased editions of the early Higsons. A similar edition of TM would do me nicely. The Goldboro edition will have to suffice instead.
Be convinced or not. I happen to know it to be the case.
Aston Martin & Jaguar/Land Rover pay eon significant money to be the 'Bond cars' and eon own all non book merchandising rights. It is they that brought an end to it albeit Bentley weren't best pleased when Boyd put Bpnd into a Jensen.
Sad, imho, because given the fact Horowitz has Bond back in a Bentley and TM has significant car content it would have been a natural for a tie up.
As for the price. I bought mine direct from Random at a significantly reduced price. It was actually Random that had them on e-bay and I think it's fantastic!
Horowitz will be signing 'Special Editions' of Trigger Mortis at Waterstones Piccadilly at 7:30pm on Monday September 7th.
Tickets are available from Waterstones.com for £18.99 (including book).
If any of you aficionados are going I would be delighted to let you buy me a Vesper.
In talking about aspects of the Trigger Mortis book (mi6-hq) there was a mention of Hanafuda ?
I looked this up and they are Japanese pictorial playing cards with images of flowers. (48 in a pack).
No numbers, but 12 monthly suits of 4 cards. (2 plain, and 2 special-each suit.)
As the books are not as popular as the Bond films, I don’t think we’ll get James Bond image Hanafuda card sets!
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I have done likewise and sadly, this looks like it's going to be as good as it gets. I say sadly because other than being a signed and numbered 1st edition (1 of 1000) and having sprayed end papers, there isn't really anything 'special' about it. One also has to bare in mind that Horowitz will doubtless be signing hundreds around the country at events so, it won't really be 1 of 1000 at all!
What's more, they say they won't be shipping it until October? Nearly a month after launch. Why on earth they can't get themselves organised to ship on the day of publication, God only knows?
One of the most beautiful things I have in my collection is the Bentley edition of CR - it really is fabulous — and I was hoping like hell that they would be doing a special edition, especially with TM's motor sport content.
Unfortunately, this won't be happening. I have it on good authority that eon have given them a shot across their bows by inferring that they were infringing their 'Bond' rights as they have all the non-book merchandise licensing rights and that by making a book with Bentley, they were creating a link with their car.
A little tenuous if you ask me but Bentley didn't want the hassle so they've stopped.
This probably explains a lot when it comes to the marketing of the books — why, for instance Rolex don't do a tie up as the real Bond watch etc..etc.…
Frankly, somebody at IFP (formerly Gildrose) was asleep at the switch when they let eon sweep the board and it's a damn shame for the literary franchise as it doubtless limits marketing options.
This, plus the e-book peril, gives all the more reason why publishers should come up with really special first editions. I'm a huge James Ellroy fan and Waterston's had a truly beautiful limited 1st edition of 'Perfidia' with dramatically enhanced cover art. This is the sort of thing that Orion should be doing for TM particularly given the lacklustre jacket they have selected for the hardback edition.
After all, where would EON be without the novels?
Copyrights ? As it's an on going character and not a dead one
( in that there were no continuing novels) like Sherlock Holmes.
Too bloody true!
Personally, I think that Fleming's literary interests and the associated Bond continuation franchise has not been well managed.
They'd' probably be happier if they didn't exist, so they could happily get on with making movies about their ageing fitness fanatic, his sales rep watches and fancy cars.
Where would EON be without lit Bond? Well, as we talking about crud by Faulks, Deaver, Boyd and Horowitz unseen effort - happier. Sure they have a huge debt to Ian Fleming but he isn't writing Bond anymore.
Believe you me, EON give a "flying" about everything Bond related. They protect their franchise like a Rotwhieler.
Indubitably.
However, the context here is the continuations, and I am quite confident EON could well do without their existence.
For all EON's control freakery, there is just nothing in the continuations for them.
While that may be true, I believe Villieurs53 was referring to the Bentley edition of Casino Royale, most certainly not a continuation and whose popularity has risen considerably in the last 10 years...
This is simply due to the fact that they still cant shift the 500 ltd Casino Royale Bentley Edition from several years ago!!! I know this as I just bought a brand new one direct from the publishers (random house) for half the price they originally retailed for and they have (or did have) more on eBay!!
Not sure he was restricting his opinion about EON's control freakery to the Bentley CR edition....
However, the Bentley CR Edition is a tribute to a classic novel and a well deserved, beautiful edition. The other Bentley editions, DMC and CB, seem, IMO, to be a total waste of time, the literary quality far exceeded by the craftsmanship of the bookbinders art. Lovely books, but garbage iniside. Whatever short term premium there may be for these two must surely drop over time when reality dawns: who wants glorious editions of two of the worst continuations ever?
On that basis, regardless of any EON strong arming, I do wonder where the true benefit ot Bentley might be in a TM edition. Sure, they will have seen proofs, it might become the classic continuation we have waited for. It might be another dud.
Can't see it taking much, therefore, to put Bentley (and Rolex) off. The public image of James Bond has nothing to do with their brands anymore. A small, exlsuive group of IF fans, yes, but beyond that, no.
Not sure he was restricting his opinion about EON's control freakery to the Bentley CR edition....
However, the Bentley CR Edition is a tribute to a classic novel and a well deserved, beautiful edition. The other Bentley editions, DMC and CB, seem, IMO, to be a total waste of time, the literary quality far exceeded by the craftsmanship of the bookbinders art. Lovely books, but garbage iniside. Whatever short term premium there may be for these two must surely drop over time when reality dawns: who wants glorious editions of two of the worst continuations ever?
On that basis, regardless of any EON strong arming, I do wonder where the true benefit ot Bentley might be in a TM edition. Sure, they will have seen proofs, it might become the classic continuation we have waited for. It might be another dud.
Can't see it taking much, therefore, to put Bentley (and Rolex) off. The public image of James Bond has nothing to do with their brands anymore. A small, exlsuive group of IF fans, yes, but beyond that, no.
Thank you, I was referring primarily to CR as that was the one that rattled eon's cage.
The reason you were so lucky welshboy78 is because Bentley were prohibited from marketing said item and had to flog them off on e-bay. Good for you and isn't it completely beautiful.
I certainly wouldn't defend DMC, CB or SOLO as books - they were all dire - but I think TM will be the one that brakes thru' and I'd have loved to see a Bentley edition.
Thanks for the info - I did not realise this. So EON put the hold on Bentley??
I have not received it yet as forwarded it to my shippers - does look stunning and looking forward to opening it!
EDIT - just re-read your original post! Sounds complicated and a little bizarre
You are in for a huge treat when you receive this and you should post your reaction here.
In my opinion, it's the most luxurious and beautiful edition of any Fleming work ever produced and I actually prefer it to the Queen Ann Press edition (£14000 per set!).
Bentley & Random House did a fabulous job on 'Casino Royale'. As befits Fleming's first and possibly most famous work, the design with its Bentley grill spine, mulliner leather binding and incredible illustrations will, I think, make it along with a 1953 JC first, the ultimate Bond edition.
It's way ahead of the work they did for DMC & CB, both (literary content excluded) were good and now sell for significant sums.
Bentley & Random published the limited CR edition (only 500 made) to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the novel and its release coincided with the release of SOLO, when Boyd put Bond into a Jensen Interceptor! Go figure - I bet that made Bentley feel great about their Bond relationship.
r books, nor that EON could see a threat therein. Unless one believes EON are totally paranoid, there is no - to me - obvious logic.
Seems to me that Boyd's use of a Jensen brought a natural end to the Bentley continuation connection.
But no matter. I certainly wouldn't spend upwards of £750 on a Leather continuation, and I have every hardback first to CR. To me, the best continuation specials are the signed, numbered slipcased editions of the early Higsons. A similar edition of TM would do me nicely. The Goldboro edition will have to suffice instead.
Be convinced or not. I happen to know it to be the case.
Aston Martin & Jaguar/Land Rover pay eon significant money to be the 'Bond cars' and eon own all non book merchandising rights. It is they that brought an end to it albeit Bentley weren't best pleased when Boyd put Bpnd into a Jensen.
Sad, imho, because given the fact Horowitz has Bond back in a Bentley and TM has significant car content it would have been a natural for a tie up.
As for the price. I bought mine direct from Random at a significantly reduced price. It was actually Random that had them on e-bay and I think it's fantastic!
Tickets are available from Waterstones.com for £18.99 (including book).
If any of you aficionados are going I would be delighted to let you buy me a Vesper.
Brilliant - love it to bits. Much better than the actual!
David Oyelowo to narrate the Trigger Mortis audio book.
Good voice- good choice!
On audio book ? Has everyone forgotten about Hugh Quarshie
Who read Dr No.
Are the eye sockets filled with a silver colour or a gold cover (as with the proofs)?
Silver. This book is a proof so its possible the retail copy will not have the date on the back.
In talking about aspects of the Trigger Mortis book (mi6-hq) there was a mention of Hanafuda ?
I looked this up and they are Japanese pictorial playing cards with images of flowers. (48 in a pack).
No numbers, but 12 monthly suits of 4 cards. (2 plain, and 2 special-each suit.)
As the books are not as popular as the Bond films, I don’t think we’ll get James Bond image Hanafuda card sets!
Bleuville