Thunderball vs You Only Live Twice

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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Thunderball.

    Many things wrong with YOLT. Most annoying is the fact they totally disregarded an awesome Fleming novel and the arc it creates after OHMSS. First time they did this,they hired a SciFi writer and started the Bond + SciFi concept. How cool it would have been shooting OHMSS in 1967 with Connery, and then YOLT,the novel, in 1969 also with Connery?

    Also, I never liked the volcano.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    How cool it would have been shooting OHMSS in 1967 with Connery, and then YOLT,the novel, in 1969 also with Connery?
    Insanely cool.
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Also, I never liked the volcano.
    No inner 12 year old in you? :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    How cool it would have been shooting OHMSS in 1967 with Connery, and then YOLT,the novel, in 1969 also with Connery?
    Insanely cool.
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Also, I never liked the volcano.
    No inner 12 year old in you? :))

    Sure! I love MR!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Sure! I love MR!
    That's inner 10 year old... :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Sure! I love MR!
    That's inner 10 year old... :))

    Right, that's why I don't like the volcano.I just find it too grownup :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Sure! I love MR!
    That's inner 10 year old... :))

    Right, that's why I don't like the volcano.I just find it too grownup :))
    LOL, man, that was hilarious! *Choke*
    Good one. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AirJordanFan93AirJordanFan93 Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    Thunderball for me. I really like YOLT but I have loved Thunderball since I first saw it when I was 10 years old and got the DVD for Christmas 2002.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Moore Than wrote:
    I actually prefer You Only Live Twice. Yes, it is overblown and OTT at times but I find it more entertaining,

    Exactly! And for that reason there's surely a certain logic for choosing YOLT. :D
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Moore Than wrote:
    I actually prefer You Only Live Twice. Yes, it is overblown and OTT at times but I find it more entertaining,

    Exactly! And for that reason there's surely a certain logic for choosing YOLT. :D
    "Contrary to what you may believe,
    007, the world is not filled with
    mad-men who can hollow out volcanoes,
    stock them with big-breasted women,
    and threaten the world with nuclear
    annihilation.    " -M to Bond in the original TND script :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,106Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    "Contrary to what you may believe,
    007, the world is not filled with
    mad-men who can hollow out volcanoes,
    stock them with big-breasted women,
    and threaten the world with nuclear
    annihilation.

    :( :( :( unfortunately....
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    "Contrary to what you may believe,
    007, the world is not filled with
    mad-men who can hollow out volcanoes,
    stock them with big-breasted women,
    and threaten the world with nuclear
    annihilation.

    :( :( :( unfortunately....
    That's bollocks anyway; we all saw the documentary (YOLT).
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'd love a hollowed out volcano, stocked with some
    Big breasted women ! ... and it is nearly Christmas. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Moore Than wrote:
    I actually prefer You Only Live Twice. Yes, it is overblown and OTT at times but I find it more entertaining,

    Exactly! And for that reason there's surely a certain logic for choosing YOLT. :D
    "Contrary to what you may believe,
    007, the world is not filled with
    mad-men who can hollow out volcanoes,
    stock them with big-breasted women,
    and threaten the world with nuclear
    annihilation.    " -M to Bond in the original TND script :))

    You're joking, right?
    Although taking into account that TND is the nadir of the series IMHO, it could well have been a line they actually considered!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I'd love a hollowed out volcano, stocked with some Big breasted women ! ... and it is nearly Christmas. ;)
    Well, now you know what to ask Santa for.

    Just finished my impromptu 60's Bond marathon, and here are my results: DN & FRWL were the actual best movies, GF & OHMSS rocked the Fleming/EON casbah, TB felt a bit rushed, but epic H2O scenes and Connery at his peak does not diasappoint.
    YOLT was the most pure unadulterated fun.
    Must have been the stock of big breasted women... 8-)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'd like to point out I also like small breasted women.
    I'm all for sisterly equality. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    You're joking, right?
    Here's the script dude:
    http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/Tomorrow-Never-Dies.htm
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,106Chief of Staff
    Virgil37 wrote:
    TND is the nadir of the series IMHO, it could well have been a line they actually considered!

    (a) No way is TND the nadir of the Bond series; it's at worst a standard entry

    (b) Yes that line was actually considered (Edit- as Chris says above)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    http://www.universalexports.net/00Scripts.shtml
    Some more scripts. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    No way is TND the nadir of the Bond series; it's at worst a standard entry
    On another site I said this:
    TND was a supremely well made formula-chaser with a little twist here & there... hugely entertaining... To quote Malcolm McDowall from Blue Thunder, "anyone who tells you different is a damn liar." :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    No way is TND the nadir of the Bond series; it's at worst a standard entry
    On another site I said this:
    TND was a supremely well made formula-chaser with a little twist here & there... hugely entertaining... To quote Malcolm McDowall from Blue Thunder, "anyone who tells you different is a damn liar." :))

    Well I am a damned liar then.

    There are three lessons in blandness

    Bland, bloody bland and Tnd
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,106Chief of Staff
    TND has a more confident performance from its star than its predecessor, IMHO David Arnold's best Bond score, uses a classic Bond plot, and plenty colourful supporting performances (Dr Kaufman, for example).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The DVD has a great feature, you can watch the film and just hear
    D Arnold's great music. So fantastic after the lack luster score for
    GoldenEye. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    TND has a more confident performance from its star than its predecessor, IMHO David Arnold's best Bond score, uses a classic Bond plot, and plenty colourful supporting performances (Dr Kaufman, for example).

    And a truly awful villain. Did brosnan have any rapport with wai lin

    Mind you, Dr kauffman maybe the best scene in the brosnan era
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    broadshoulder wrote:
    Well I am a damned liar then.
    That quote was for entertainment purposes only my friend! :D
    You don't fancy TND, so be it. I don't fancy MR much. We all have our little niggles. For me, YOLT, TSWLM & TND are the three big fun Bonds. The Holy OTT Trinity, as it were. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Apologies for my former post..

    Didn't mean to offend.
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    broadshoulder wrote:
    Apologies for my former post..

    Didn't mean to offend.
    How could I take offence when TLD is #2 on your list? {[]
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    TND is the nadir of the series IMHO, it could well have been a line they actually considered!

    (a) No way is TND the nadir of the Bond series; it's at worst a standard entry

    (b) Yes that line was actually considered (Edit- as Chris says above)

    a) It's just my two cents. Till the day I die, I will consider TND the worst Bond movie ever. I felt cheated when I first saw it in 1997. Then I tried to see it several times, and always think the same. The absolute nadir. For me, that is.

    b) That only goes to show how lost they were. The actual shooting script is not much better anyways.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Till the day I die, I will consider TND the worst Bond movie ever. I felt cheated when I first saw it in 1997.
    The Court recognizes person bias againt the accused!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    The DVD has a great feature, you can watch the film and just hear
    D Arnold's great music. So fantastic after the lack luster score for
    GoldenEye. :)

    I will try and watch it that way. The score is top notch, I must admit. Arnold showing his love for Barry and re-inventing the Bond sound.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Till the day I die, I will consider TND the worst Bond movie ever. I felt cheated when I first saw it in 1997.
    The Court recognizes person bias againt the accused!

    Yeah, it's personal between me and TND, I know. That's why I always say IMO. I know there are many fans out there.
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