(Bond 24) SPECTRE's Opening Credits Theme Song.

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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    And I guarantee it will be nominated for an Academy Award.

    No way. Unless Academy Awards are only politicking (which they probably are).
    They are. Mostly a popularity contest. I made the same prediction about Adele's Skyfall before I'd even heard it, which when I did still didn't seem Academy Award quality but knew it would win because of currency, marketing, and popularity.

    Then, it could happen. It won't win on quality alone, that's for sure.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If you sing it, they will vote. :D
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Many people are now saying it rips off Michael Jackson's "Earth Song".
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3249093/Sam-Smith-accused-ripping-Michael-Jackson-s-Earth-Song-new-Bond-theme-tune-Writing-s-Wall-receives-mixed-response.html

    I've only heard the song twice and I didn't notice any similarities, can someone point out which bits are similar?
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Another thought after listening to it again - It is far too long. It should end at 3:25. Everything after that point is just redundant, repetitive, and builds to nothing.

    I really do love the intro and verse melody. Such a shame that the rest of the song has many flaws.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    Many people are now saying it rips off Michael Jackson's "Earth Song".
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3249093/Sam-Smith-accused-ripping-Michael-Jackson-s-Earth-Song-new-Bond-theme-tune-Writing-s-Wall-receives-mixed-response.html

    I've only heard the song twice and I didn't notice any similarities, can someone point out which bits are similar?

    It was pointed out on radio 1, when the song was debuted...I can't hear it myself, even when they played it back to back...
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  • lowelkerlowelker Posts: 12MI6 Agent
    I agree with Virgil37 (though I only got to here a 45 second snip admittedly). I wasn't impressed. No real melody to remember. I did here the Bond-ish accent on the piece, but there was no substance I could grab hold of.

    I have never disliked a Bond theme except an end credit song from Goldeneye. Octopussy's theme "An All Time High" was a bit too bland for me, but it was still a well written song. Great melody, but not enough Bond-ish style umph for my ears. Madonna's fare actually grew on me.
    I may not ever come around to like Spectre's song. I hope there is an end credit song like Tomorrow Never Dies' Surrender! I really love that song. I love Bassey's rejected Quantum song as well as Eva Almer's overlooked entry.

    Have you all heard the three part 'rejected' Bond themes????? It is so awesome to hear the entries. Alice Cooper! Johnny Cash's Thunderball!!!!!!!!!!
    The search for 'rejected james bond themes' will reveal "rejected agents" I II III videos.
    You will get a kick out the songs. Ouch. Some songs are not for the sqeamish.
  • lowelkerlowelker Posts: 12MI6 Agent
    Sorry the search I referred to is on youtube. Sorry
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    lowelker wrote:
    I agree with Virgil37 (though I only got to here a 45 second snip admittedly). I wasn't impressed. No real melody to remember. I did here the Bond-ish accent on the piece, but there was no substance I could grab hold of.

    I have never disliked a Bond theme except an end credit song from Goldeneye. Octopussy's theme "An All Time High" was a bit too bland for me, but it was still a well written song. Great melody, but not enough Bond-ish style umph for my ears. Madonna's fare actually grew on me.
    I may not ever come around to like Spectre's song. I hope there is an end credit song like Tomorrow Never Dies' Surrender! I really love that song. I love Bassey's rejected Quantum song as well as Eva Almer's overlooked entry.

    Have you all heard the three part 'rejected' Bond themes????? It is so awesome to hear the entries. Alice Cooper! Johnny Cash's Thunderball!!!!!!!!!!
    The search for 'rejected james bond themes' will reveal "rejected agents" I II III videos.
    You will get a kick out the songs. Ouch. Some songs are not for the sqeamish.

    I've heard many rejected themes, and my personal favourite is TND by Saint Entienne
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I can hear the similarities to Jackson's "Earth Song," which ironically I like better. "Spectre" seems like a pastiche of it.
  • JimatayJimatay Posts: 126MI6 Agent
    Why didn't they just write a check and get No Good About Goodbye? Now this is a Bond ballad. Listen to this an compare it to Smith's. Shirley's voice is haunting and beautiful and can almost bring one to tears, especially with these memorable lyrics. They even put it over the QOS titles and it actually improves them. Is it just me?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z8OKU48xMw

    I was listening to Bassey belt out "The Living Tree" today. If that is not a bond song that should of been, I don't know what is. http://youtu.be/O9c_qOpiPSk
  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    agent 00 wrote:
    I like the song :# after hearing it a few times it sounds good to me, it brings me back to the old Bond movies.
    It's much much much better than the QoS theme song (but that is kicking down an open door)

    Glad I'm not the only one who likes it! It's a great song imo!
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Why didn't they just write a check and get No Good About Goodbye? Now this is a Bond ballad. Listen to this an compare it to Smith's. Shirley's voice is haunting and beautiful and can almost bring one to tears, especially with these memorable lyrics. They even put it over the QOS titles and it actually improves them. Is it just me?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z8OKU48xMw

    It's a fantastic song, but even though it wasn't written for QOS it fits with that film musically and lyrically ("no solace in a kiss"). And they couldn't use that theme and not have David Arnold write the score. That would be very insulting to David Arnold to use his song and not his score.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Its a very good song. For those who didnt't like it, sorry that theres not guitars, drums, electronic beats and reverb in there but this is an R&B song and not a pop song

    That is not why people hate it

    Its not a R&B song. More like an X Factor song :))

    Indeed, certainly not R&B. I don't have problem with Sam Smith's voice, or the feel of the song. My problem is with the actual song. It feels like it's going somewhere but never quite gets there. But it's really close. The biggest problem are the terrible lyrics. The worst Bond songs are still Die Another Day and Another Way to Die. I might rank this above Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies.
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  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    A lot of people hate it.
    I seem to remember a lot of hate towards Adele's Skyfall. I think a part of it is that as a Fan Community, we dislike change.
    I'm pleased that they tried something different. And I honestly think the best songs are the ones which go for something different.
    -FYEO
    -AVTAK
    -LALD

    I like it. I already liked Smith's 'I know I'm not the only one,' and seriously, the lyrics don't bother me. Let's look at some previous lyrics

    'When the Skyfall, when it crumbles, we will stand tall,'

    'We are an all time high, we'll change what has been done before.'
    Bond songs to me, have never really been taken too seriously, but I feel like Smith has taken this one to be a melancholy and moody song. So good on him for that!
    This is Bond, broken and hurt. Certainly hints a strong romantic relationship with Madeline Swann, and the cracking/break-down of a strong man. Maybe I'm just over-analysing it.
    Certainly at some points it sounds more Sam Smith than Bond but the 'If I risk it all...' Bridge is a nice touch and the orchestra is superb.
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    The thing with Adele is that the lyrics were a bit naff but the vocal performance was powerful and the song was catchy. Smiths vocal performance is pretty poor in my opinion and screams of X Factor
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    I'm interested in Barbel's opinion regarding "Writing's On The Wall." He's a professional musician, so he'd have some interesting insights.
  • TheGRmanTheGRman United States, IowaPosts: 32MI6 Agent
    TheGRman wrote:
    He said he wanted to sing a love song... maybe he should've been worried about singing a "Bond" song.
    quite the opposite in fact:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhKI0Ik1Mg


    Here's a recent read:
    http://www.heart.co.uk/showbiz/movies/daniel-craig-james-bond-spectre-2015-trailer/

    I also remember reading an article on Tuesday of this week (of course, I can't find the link when I need it), in which Sam says he wanted it to be a love song.

    So has Sam been lying the whole time, or is his idea of a love song, completely different than what and how he sings, "Writings on The Wall"?... or maybe MY idea of what a love song is, is wrong.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Lexi wrote:
    Now where's that bottle of prosecco, I'm off to TP's man cave to watch Die Hard :#

    Sorry Lex, but we've had already chosen <Tiger's Wood> yesterdays night :D
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    The one I can compare it with is Cheryl Crowes "Tomorrow Never Dies"

    A dirge. Painful to the ears. Instantly forgettable.

    Its not amongst the greats - lets move on to the next one...
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  • JimatayJimatay Posts: 126MI6 Agent
    A instrumental cover. Kind of gives you a feel of how it can be incorporated into the score. http://youtu.be/N_dbXWpKDKg
  • OmegamanOmegaman Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    It's not a terrible song but nothing massively interesting either. It is what it is. 20 minutes of effort with added strings. Another case of unimaginative song writing. I mean if you need a writing partner to write a song like this then you're a pretty **** song writer. Lets see how well it goes with the opening credits.
  • The_Black_007The_Black_007 Posts: 94MI6 Agent
    I tell you what- I reacted quite negatively to the song upon first listen (see my previous posts). I couldn't deny that it was beautifully orchestrated and the strings on the track are definitely Bondian- but I really wasn't feeling it. However- 24 hours later and now I've had a chance to listen to it a few times and process it into Bond Canon- it has totally grown on me and I have to say..... I'm on board now!

    Chris Wright and Tom Sears at JAMES BOND RADIO have just uploaded a brilliant podcast breaking down the song. I'll be attending the day of release midnight showing of "SPECTRE" at Odeon Leicester Square in London with these guys (along with around 30 other JBR listeners) on October 26th! I cannot wait!

    Have a listen to Tom and Chris's excellent podcast breaking down "Writing's on the wall"

    http://jamesbondradio.com/spectre-writings-on-the-wall-sam-smith-reviewed/
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  • SenorJon21SenorJon21 Posts: 68MI6 Agent
    NYPost is saying that Lana Del Rey's "24" was in the running for the Spectre song. I've gotta say, even though I think the Sam Smith song is quite suitable, Lana Del Rey's would be absolutely perfect, especially since this is Bond 24 :))

    Link to NYPost Article: http://nypost.com/2015/09/18/the-5-best-tracks-on-lana-del-reys-new-album/
  • VandrellVandrell London, EnglandPosts: 324MI6 Agent
    It wasn't as bad as i was expecting and think it will grow on me. Cant help but think of Dr Evil when i hear it though.
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Ive listened to it a couple more times, and I just can't put my finger on it. The opening of the song, those few chords, are amazing, reminds me of TWINE and AVTAK score. But then the vocals..........eeeeeehhhhhh.
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I agree with those who've pointed out, Sam Smith has a huge ....
    .... Following, both here and in the States. So it should in theory be
    a big hit. Which helps sell the movie. An example would be my youngest,
    She has no interest in 007, but is a big Fan of Sam. So she'll be buying it. ;)
    My opinion ? It is a shock on first hearing, but I've grown to like it. May not
    Make my top ten list, but if it works over the titles and after seeing the film,
    The lyrics may have a stronger meaning ? :)
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  • The_Black_007The_Black_007 Posts: 94MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Why didn't they just write a check and get No Good About Goodbye? Now this is a Bond ballad. Listen to this an compare it to Smith's. Shirley's voice is haunting and beautiful and can almost bring one to tears, especially with these memorable lyrics. They even put it over the QOS titles and it actually improves them. Is it just me?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z8OKU48xMw

    It's a fantastic song, but even though it wasn't written for QOS it fits with that film musically and lyrically ("no solace in a kiss"). And they couldn't use that theme and not have David Arnold write the score. That would be very insulting to David Arnold to use his song and not his score.
    welshboy78 wrote:

    That is not why people hate it

    Its not a R&B song. More like an X Factor song :))

    Indeed, certainly not R&B. I don't have problem with Sam Smith's voice, or the feel of the song. My problem is with the actual song. It feels like it's going somewhere but never quite gets there. But it's really close. The biggest problem are the terrible lyrics. The worst Bond songs are still Die Another Day and Another Way to Die. I might rank this above Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Actually- the song "No good about goodbye" WAS written for QoS but was rejected in favour of "Another way to die" - you can even hear the riff from the song in the PTS of QoS after Bond dispatches the 2 Alfa Romeos and "Sienna, Italy" appears on the screen!
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    I am in the States and this is the first time i've even heard of Sam Smith , didn't he get like 1 grammy last year and thats the first thing he's ever done? He's still only 23 - the first bond singer younger than me, so they really could've went with someone with more experience. But then again Adele was 23 and she knocked it out of the park

    I now realize it is suppose to be Bond's inner thoughts. Smith claims to be portraying bond in the lyrics. Bond would never act or talk like that, even inside his head. It is too effiminate. He isn't lovey-dovey like that and never has been. Smith really was full of it, and he was definetely portraying himself. I just can't see how this will posibly fit. In almost every bond song, even the bad ones, if i heard them for the first time on the radio i would hear the trumpets and bass and go 'that would work as a bond song'. This only has that in the first 15 seconds. I just can't get over how bad it is

    I am hearing people say that it gets better the more times you hear it. Well isn't that how brainwashing works? I mean literally, brainwashing is caused through repetition, which is why the most repetitive songs played at nauseum on commercials and radio are always the ones to catch on these days. Call it brainwashing, call it marketing - marketing is just legal brainwashing, and it is kind of more effective than brainwashing.

    I even disagree with the people saying it at least has good instrumentals. It kind of repeats that same first 15 second thing the whole time. The other bond songs, even the badder ones, they at least tried to mix it up
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    Actually- the song "No good about goodbye" WAS written for QoS but was rejected in favour of "Another way to die" - you can even hear the riff from the song in the PTS of QoS after Bond dispatches the 2 Alfa Romeos and "Sienna, Italy" appears on the screen!

    Yes and it is also after the boat chase.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    Sam Smith Interview Translation: Translation: "I hope people aren't expecting me to bring out like a big pop song, because that's exactly what i did. EXACTLY WHAT I DID. I wanted to make something modern and completely devoid of anything timeless or classic, and that is completely disconnected with the project, has nothing to do with the film or Bond himself. Um, I wrote this for me, this is about me, about my life, this isn't a james bond song. So i wrote this for my fans, not bond fans. And its like the 75th time i've had to play myself. So i just hope people listen to it and think, "That's Sam Smith. That sounds like a Sam Smith theme. I wrote this thing in 20 minutes, its the best achievement of my life, and i hope you think it's crappier than Madonna. Thank you."
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