Alright…finished reading all the Fleming novels

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,855Chief of Staff
    7289 wrote:
    Firemass,

    Could you please cite the Chapter/Page number for this:

    "Bond had referred to Mr Big, the famous Harlem criminal, as 'that damned n****r. Leiter had picked him up. Careful now, James, he had said. People are so damn sensitive about colour around here that you can't even ask a barman for a jigger of rum. You have to ask for a jegro."

    Thanks!

    From memory, it's from Chapter 12 "Acme Mud And Sulphur". Can't recall the page number though.
  • David SchofieldDavid Schofield EnglandPosts: 1,528MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    7289 wrote:
    Firemass,

    Could you please cite the Chapter/Page number for this:

    "Bond had referred to Mr Big, the famous Harlem criminal, as 'that damned n****r. Leiter had picked him up. Careful now, James, he had said. People are so damn sensitive about colour around here that you can't even ask a barman for a jigger of rum. You have to ask for a jegro."

    Thanks!

    From memory, it's from Chapter 12 "Acme Mud And Sulphur". Can't recall the page number though.

    Indeed it is. Sure it wasn't from the meal at Sardis.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I'm currently reading through the first seven Novels. As they focus on Smersh Agents and the Soviet Union, whilst the Novels post GF focus on S.P.E.C.T.R.E and Bonds Spiral of Darkness -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Maybe you're reading the heavily-edited American edition which SM refers to... :))
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,855Chief of Staff
    I'm home now and can check it.
    The quote actually comes from Chapter 13 (not 12, as I tried to remember earlier, but I got the chapter title right) and it's on p124 of the Cape edition. Bond is lying in a mudbath, and Wint & Kidd are about to appear.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The poor jockey gets a really hard time from Wint and Kidd
    In the mud baths .Another great idea for a punishment,
    from Fleming. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    They also give Bond a good Shoeing on the Train Platform -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, takes me back to my
    " Women's Auxiliary Balloon corps hockey team" days ;)
    But yes, Bond takes one hell of a beating.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    I checked my "reading" copy of DAF which is a November 1961 Signet paperback. It's awfully dog-eared and sections of the yellowed pages are falling out. I did not find that quote, and am horrified to find that censors have dug into my favorite novels and chopped out bits and pieces! To think I had figured that I read all the Bond novels for decades, only to discover I have missed whole sentences! What an outrage!

    I have the FEL editions and hope they are not similarly redacted. Fortunately/unfortunately they are still in the shrink wrap, so I can't check.

    Thanks for the help!!!
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 1,061MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    Firemass,

    Could you please cite the Chapter/Page number for this:

    "Bond had referred to Mr Big, the famous Harlem criminal, as 'that damned n****r. Leiter had picked him up. Careful now, James, he had said. People are so damn sensitive about colour around here that you can't even ask a barman for a jigger of rum. You have to ask for a jegro."

    Thanks!

    That's in DAF, chapter Acme Mud and Sulphur, page 135 of the Penguin Books 2006 reissue with introductions

    EDIT: Sorry, had been adressed allready, my bad...
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Does Kindle have different versions depending on your location ?
    As I have several and they seem to be just the same as the printed
    Books.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    That's missing from my 1982 Berkley edition. X-(
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    That's missing from my 1982 Berkley edition. X-(

    I think that you need to get the 2003 editions onwards to have the unexpurgated text; either that or buy the British editions of the Bonds that were uncut.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    I think that you need to get the 2003 editions onwards to have the unexpurgated text; either that or buy the British editions of the Bonds that were uncut.
    Thanks SM, it's not like I think that bit is 'good', but I do not support censorship. I'm an adult and I can decide for my own self what I do and do not accept as, err... acceptable. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • RevelatorRevelator Posts: 604MI6 Agent
    I think that you need to get the 2003 editions onwards to have the unexpurgated text

    That's correct. My only regret about is that Fleming's wonderful preface to TSWLM is now gone, since it only appeared in the American editions.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Wow 6 weeks away and I finished off the remains of OHMSS, all of YOLT and I'm about 50 pages into THWTGG!! Pathetic or what?? I envisioned relaxing in the sun polishing off all the books however my young girls never gave me a minutes peace :D

    Anyhow I was impressed with YOLT and the feel of TMWTGG (so far). You do really feel like 007 is on his last legs.

    Quite apparent that there are still tons of small cool moments and scenarios that have not been used by EON
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I've always preferred the Novel Version of Scaramanga -{ Will you be reading the Gardners?
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
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