Never Say Never will Never be Thunderball

InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
in The James Bond Films
Anyone really struggle to watch this. It taints all Connery early Bond work and knowimg about the way McClory tried to take ownership of Bond his behaviour and the strain it put on Fleming and Cubby I would rather all copies of this spoof should be burned amd confined to room 101. The dialogue is poor & what bad shakey camera work.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I really dislike NSNA. It's really boring, lacking in action and the music
    Is crap. :)) , I almost never watch it, when I do ( large parts are skipped)
    the only Worse Bond is CR(67). :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Give me NSNA instead of TB any day of the week!
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Give me NSNA instead of TB any day of the week!

    Really??

    I am with Thunderpussy I lose interest. It looks like a superman movie, I keep waiting for Bond to meet Lex Luther. Its a load of balls.

    Thunderball is a far greater piece of adventure cinema.
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    InternationalExports wrote:
    Firemass wrote:
    Give me NSNA instead of TB any day of the week!

    Really??

    I am with Thunderpussy I lose interest. It looks like a superman movie, I keep waiting for Bond to meet Lex Luther. Its a load of balls.

    Thunderball is a far greater piece of adventure cinema.

    Oh yeah and Largos yaucht looks like the Calais to Dover I am just waiting for P&O to pop on the credits.
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    If you don't like it….then don't watch it.

    PS- I don't see any harm being done to Sean's reputation as 007. If anything he redeemed himself for D.A.F.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    Sorry thought this was a forum for opinions. Ita unofficial drivel I like the real films. Thats all I have to say. If you dont agree with my posts dont read them, kind of like following your own advice.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Give me NSNA instead of TB any day of the week!

    Apart from the music, I like better NSNA too. I'm glad that Connery came back that last time.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I loved it when it came out just for Connery, but now in retrospect it's kind of a mess of satire vs serious moments. The tone is incredibly uneven, the music is so wrong for a Bond movie, the pacing is slow near the end, and Bond winks at us. A fantastic Felix Leiter in the person of Bernie Casey and an intriguing nutcase provided by Barbara Carerra are its two biggest strengts IMHO.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    edited November 2014
    Its a badly dated mess!!!

    Cmon Thunderball has......

    The most beautiful Bond girl(s) ever!!!!!!
    Connery in his prime
    Great one liners (lots)
    An awesome Largo!!!
    The best footage of Nassau when it was unspoilt - really does make you feel in paradise
    Vulcan Bombers
    Awesome soundtrack!!
    DB5
    A jet pack!!!
    The awesome Disco Volante!!
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  • DevilMayCare007DevilMayCare007 Posts: 196MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I really dislike NSNA. It's really boring, lacking in action and the music
    Is crap. :)) , I almost never watch it, when I do ( large parts are skipped)
    the only Worse Bond is CR(67). :))
    +1 give me TB which is one of the best IMO :))
    Top 10 Bond Films
    1. Thunderball 2. FRWL 3. Casino Royale 4. TLD 5. OHMSS 6. SkyFall 7. GF 8. TSWLM 9. GE 10. FYEO
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    It was an embarassment in 83, it an embarassment in 2014

    Even Sean thinks it stinks the place out..
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    When I saw Never Say Never Again at the cinema on its release I thought it was OK. Maybe I was caught up in all the hype surrounding the 'Battle of the Bonds' because when I saw it again years later I could not believe how poor it was, a pale shadow of Thunderball in just about every department. Can't remember the last time I watched it in full, must be about twenty years ago.
    Moore Not Less 4371 posts (2002 - 2007) Moore Than (2012 - 2016)
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    It's got some redeeming Features though -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I do like Edward Fox as M and Bernie Casey as Felix but that's it :#
    I know many love Barbara Carrera but to me she really over acts, becoming
    A pantomime villainess. Also once again the music is total crap, appalling
    In fact. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    The most beautiful Bond girl(s) ever!!!!!! 

    Barbara Carrera and Kim Basinger ring any bells? up there in my book with Auger and Paluzzi at the very least.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Connery in his prime
    His prime was IMO DN-FRWL-GF,although I agree he's in much better shape than a year later in YOLT.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    An awesome Largo!!!
    Brandauer runs circles around Celi.No contest there.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    The best footage of Nassau when it was unspoilt - really does make you feel in paradise
    NSNA has Bahamas and Cote D'Azur.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Vulcan Bombers
    NSNA FX are better.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Awesome soundtrack!!
    I give you that one. I miss the Bond Theme,gunbarrell and Binder's main titles badly.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    DB5
    less than 2 minutes of screen time of it.
    welshboy78 wrote:
    A jet pack!!!
    Even in 1983 that gadget looked very dated. The helmet, although obviously necessary for safety, makes Connery look really bad (that's why he isn't wearing one in the poster)
    welshboy78 wrote:
    The awesome Disco Volante!!
    There's an awesome Disco Volante in NSNA too.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Virgil wrote:

    An awesome Largo!!! Brandauer runs circles around Celi.No contest there.



    Disagree. Celi owns largo. He looks like s pirate - which is the essence of the character
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    +1, I too prefer Celi as Largo. -{
    In many ways I look at it like this if all the copies of
    Thunderball were destroyed, I'd be very upset.
    If all the copies of NSNA were lost, I wouldn't care. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    +1, I too prefer Celi as Largo. -{
    In many ways I look at it like this if all the copies of
    Thunderball were destroyed, I'd be very upset.
    If all the copies of NSNA were lost, I wouldn't care. :))

    I'd be very upset if any movie at any time was destroyed.
  • King KamalKing Kamal Posts: 85MI6 Agent
    If I'm allowed to come to defence of the soundtrack for a moment. At times it is slightly better than the atrocious Bill Conti music in the FYEO PTS. Obviously that's not saying much :)) and in general the Legrande score is far too close to elevator music for my liking, really no tension or menace at all.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    You obviously have never seen " Girls just wanna have fun" :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I've always preferred the NSNA Soundtrack to the one in OP.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
    Sorry guys but I can't believe anyone could like the music of NSNA.
    I'd rather listen to dissolving ear wax ! :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    edited November 2014
    :))

    Variety is the Spice of Life -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    broadshoulder wrote:
    Virgil wrote:

    An awesome Largo!!! Brandauer runs circles around Celi.No contest there.



    Disagree. Celi owns largo. He looks like s pirate - which is the essence of the character

    Is that it? the eyepatch? and a pirate in a white tux?
    I think Celi's Largo is mediocre at best. The least memorable villain of the 60s.
    Brandauer's performance conveys real menace, as in the scene where he gives the necklace to Domino. It's a relaxed scene, they're laughing and playful, yet with a couple of Brandauer's simple gestures (the piano key, and the hand through his throat), while still laughing, you feel in your bones that Domino is trapped and in real danger.Brandauer is a fantastic actor.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    I've always preferred the NSNA Soundtrack to the one in OP.

    You mean the song, right? because Barry's OP soundtrack is one of the best in the whole series. Barry in top mid 80s form.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I wouldn't mind if the score was simply bland, but it's actually
    Intrusive ! :# I know this is only my opinion, and if you like
    It that's great, but to my ears it's just bloody awful. 8-)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Maybe I should not have said anything :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I wouldn't mind if the score was simply bland, but it's actually
    Intrusive ! :# I know this is only my opinion, and if you like
    It that's great, but to my ears it's just bloody awful. 8-)

    I agree. The jazzy number in the bike chase for instance always puzzled me. Original, but totally out of place.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Like anything else, if YOU like NSNA, that's enough. Hey- I get a kick out of Batman & Robin... :)) :s
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If you love it, embrace it hold it close and never let it go. Be true
    And defend it all all times. ;) sadly I don't love it, but I like the fact
    That others do. {[]
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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