DN,FRWL,GF vs CR,QOS,SF

DevilMayCare007

I'm doing Connery's first three and Craig's first 3. Just want to know which trilogy is the best and why?
Connery would be mine BC QoS was a bit let down for me.

chrisisall

Well the first three because... Connery.

Thunderpussy

+1, the first three Connery Bonds are fantastic. {[]

DevilMayCare007

chrisisall wrote:

Well the first three because... Connery.

+1

AlphaOmegaSin

+2

Barbel

DevilMayCare007 wrote:

chrisisall wrote:

Well the first three because... Connery.

+1

+ another 1.

broadshoulder

Connerys first three.

Also give QoS another go after reading one of Flemings novels.

Absolutely_Cart

Connery is a superb actor, but at the same time, he tends to have one of the more closed-minded fanbases who can't accept Bond any other way. It's hard to draw a line between these things.

IMO, Craig's movies had more highs than Connery's but also more lows. And I'd say Connery's first three are overall more well-rounded than Craig's.

DEFIANT 74205

Connery's first three, without question. Among them, From Russia With Love is the best Bond film bar none, in my view. Dr No and Goldfinger are my third and fourth favourites respectively.

Casino Royale is the best of the Craig films so far, but still isn't a patch on the early Connery ones.

LegoBatman008

Well the first three Bond films in the original series had only had two directors, while the Daniel Craig reboot continuity has had three directors.

Plus, while Dr. No and From Russia With Love feel like the same movie, Goldfinger certainly was a departure. But the same could be said about the Daniel Craig movies. While Casino Royale '06 and Skyfall kind of feel like the same movie ironically it was the second one (Quantum of Solace) that was a real departure from the series.

So, to me they both have their pros and cons. It's just a matter of what you prefer.

While I prefer Dr. No over Casino Royale, and From Russia With Love over Quantum of Solace, I can't say that prefer Goldfinger over Skyfall because I just can't... -{

Barbel

Absolutely_Cart wrote:

Connery is a superb actor, but at the same time, he tends to have one of the more closed-minded fanbases who can't accept Bond any other way.

That's the only explanation you can think of?

Moore Than

Another vote for Sean Connery's first three. Impressive to watch and not much to be critical of. For me, the only one of Daniel Craig's that stands comparison is Casino Royale.

Quantum of Solace and Skyfall are some distance behind. For example, negatives in QoS include the fast cut editing, Bond dumping Mathis' body in the skip, the attempted rape scene. In Skyfall, Bond's escape from death in the PTS is unexplained, the third act.

LegoBatman008

Moore Than wrote:

In Skyfall, Bond's escape from death in the PTS is unexplained, the third act.

If Bond's escape from death in the pre-title sequence was actually explained then you have a bunch of impatient a-holes in the audience who would say that Skyfall is too long. Because there's always someone in the audience who acts like time is precious to them and they act like, they have something better to do than watch a really long movie...In the end it's better that they left Bond's escape from death to our imaginations instead. -{

Moore Than

LegoBatman008 wrote:

Moore Than wrote:

In Skyfall, Bond's escape from death in the PTS is unexplained, the third act.

If Bond's escape from death in the pre-title sequence was actually explained then you have a bunch of impatient a-holes in the audience who would say that Skyfall is too long. Because there's always someone in the audience who acts like time is precious to them and they act like, they have something better to do than watch a really long movie...In the end it's better that they left Bond's escape from death to our imaginations instead. -{

Bond's escape from death in the PTS did not necessarily have to be shown. For example, it could have been explained in a matter of seconds with just a few lines of dialogue when Bond met up with M at her apartment. If people are too impatient for that then they should be watching something else.

The fact that it was not shown/explained comes across to me as poor story telling. It almost turns Bond into a Jesus like figure. He sinks toward the bottom of the river then mysteriously re-appears "resurrected".

Absolutely_Cart

The worst part is that its not even acknowledged that Bond nearly fell to his death. That, and his accuracy and fitness went from utter crap to really good in just 10 minutes.

LegoBatman008

Moore Than wrote:

The fact that it was not shown/explained comes across to me as poor story telling. It almost turns Bond into a Jesus like figure. He sinks toward the bottom of the river then mysteriously re-appears "resurrected".

Well, with the Roger Moore films, Bond was pretty much a Superman-like secret agent and Casino Royale certainly had a bit of that. There's a few scenes in Casino Royale where Bond seems to be a little bit too indestructible. Like in that Tanker Chase scene where Bond jumps off a speeding tanker and rolls sideways down the airport landing strip. And then he jumps back up again as if the fall from the tanker didn't hurt him.

I just thought that Skyfall was making Bond indestructible like he was in Casino Royale.

Thunderpussy

" Like in that Tanker Chase scene where Bond jumps off a speeding tanker and rolls sideways down the airport landing strip. And then he jumps back up again as if the fall from the tanker didn't hurt him"

Did you notice the Parkour chase at the start of CR? Bond knows how to duck and roll to prevent injury.

Jarvio

I much prefer the Connery trilogy, however, SF is a very high ranker for me. But unfortunately CR and QOS are not.

LegoBatman008

Jarvio wrote:

I much prefer the Connery trilogy, however, SF is a very high ranker for me. But unfortunately CR and QOS are not.

I much prefer to call it a Bond Connery Trinity, because there were six Bond films in the 1960's not three.

Blackleiter

Absolutely_Cart wrote:

Connery is a superb actor, but at the same time, he tends to have one of the more closed-minded fanbases who can't accept Bond any other way. It's hard to draw a line between these things.

IMO, Craig's movies had more highs than Connery's but also more lows. And I'd say Connery's first three are overall more well-rounded than Craig's.

I don't think it's close-minded at all, my young friend. Some of us just happen to feel that Connery's embodiment of the cinematic Bond is the best to date. As the long-time AJB members know, I happen to believe Connery does the best job of combining all of the elements that many movie fans have come to enjoy - the wit, the charm, the physicality, the sense of danger - it's all there. Those elements are also evident in various combinations in the other actors who have played Bond, but for me the mix is not quite as complete and well-blended as with Connery's portrayal. That being said, I find that other actors have done quite a remarkable job with the character, most notably Craig and Dalton (who to me comes across as the closest to Fleming's Bond). And I see that you and I agree about the answer to query about which trilogy is best. -{ (At least I think we agree! ) )

GoldenEye85

Daniel Craig's trilogy, by a country mile. Only one out of Connery's trilogy that I like and that is Goldfinger.

Virgil37

DN FRWL GF, just because those three movies are the cornerstone of the whole series.

However, CR OOS SF would come in a close second, which is amazing.

BIG TAM

I'd go for DN, FRWL & GF as I love the '60s vibe & there's a sense of evolvement of both series & character. However, Craig's films are also showing a nice timeline. It's a close call in may ways & I'm eager to see how BOND 24 carries on the current arc but Connery's three win out for me.

Dutchfinger

I would also say Connery. Arguably his first three movies are among his best. Defenitely in terms of his own performance. But I do have to mention that had Quantum of Solace been a great movie (I don't really like it) it would have been a solid trilogy so far for him, and I would have most likely said Craig. Because I think both Casino Royale and Skyfall are absolute masterpieces.