10 reasons why Pierce Brosnan was The Best James Bond

chrisisall

1. Perfect do. Rockhard hairline- never receeded a mm. Black.
2. Could go from Connery serious ("Me too.") to Moore funny ("Does that make you 'R'?) in the blink of an eye. )
3. Never lost enthuasiam for the role, no matter what crap script was handed him. -{
4. Was a natural clothes horse. B-)
5. Had the most economical gun barrel stance. :007)
6. Never got fat. {[]
7. We always felt his Bond really loved his female co-stars. Enough to eat them possibly.
8. Realistic & relatable 'pain face' (yeah, you jokers who laugh at it never see YOUR OWN faces in a mirror when you step on a freakin' TACK or accidently staple your FINGER ).
9. He's in the crazy vehicles himself. GE tank? TND L-39 FENIX? TWINE boat? 'Nuff said. Okay... Connery was in the Moonbuggy... 8-)
10. The heart strings tugging after-death smootch. :x

welshboy78

Yeah he was great, pity about the films (to some extent) though he got off to a flyer in Goldeneye.

Watching documentaries etc he also comes across as a very funny guy and very down to earth

chrisisall

welshboy78 wrote:

Yeah he was great

Okay, maybe he wasn't the best, but he was great. I just hate when peeps say he sucked. Did Moore suck? Let's be frank here, who's movies do you watch more often? Moore's are fun, Craig's are intense, but Connery, Dalton & Brosnan's are my go-to Bonds.

Higgins

Germans tend to see only the negative aspects and I'll try to follow this stereotype:

Brosnan runs like a girl
The overuse of machine guns in the Brosnan age always bothers me.

Besides this, I experienced him during 2 shooting days in Hamburg in person and can say that he's a modest and absolutely likeable guy in real life. IMO he's gotten pretty weak scripts and his movies generally suffered a bit in the CGI parts.

James Suzuki

Main reason for me is that he just had that Bond swagger. Where Craig breathed life into the 'Cultured Badass', Brosnan pulled off the effortlessly suave nature of Bond the best.
He's not my favourite Bond, but he deserves some love. I feel like there has been a bit too much hate for him. Each Bond was good in their own way. I actually prefer him to Connery.

broadshoulder

chrisisall wrote:

1. Perfect do. Rockhard hairline- never receeded a mm. Black.

Yes, that hairspray got those locks flowing beautifully..

chrisisall wrote:

2. Could go from Connery serious ("Me too.") to Moore funny ("Does that make you 'R'?) in the blink of an eye.

Yes, but his acting wasn't up to scratch. He couldn't handle the heavy duty acting scenes like Connery aboard the Orient Express or Dalton at the Prater Park

chrisisall wrote:

3. Never lost enthuasiam for the role, no matter what crap script was handed him. -{

He deserved to after the last one. At times he looked bored.

chrisisall wrote:

4. Was a natural clothes horse. B-)

So was Rog. The elegant handling of Rogs' clothes was superb in the early films.

chrisisall wrote:

5. Had the most economical gun barrel stance. :007)

Better the the Dalton swivel?

chrisisall wrote:

6. Never got fat. {[]

Actually he did put on the pounds in DaD

chrisisall wrote:

7. We always felt his Bond really loved his female co-stars. Enough to eat them possibly.

Actually one of my hobbyhorses. Did he actually get on with his co-stars? He seems immune from Wai Lins and Halle Berrys advances and Natalya nagged him into bed. He never got pne of "those" Bond girl faces ie Sean and Ursula, Rog and Maud, Dan and Eva and George and Diana..

chrisisall wrote:

8. Realistic & relatable 'pain face' (yeah, you jokers who laugh at it never see YOUR OWN faces in a mirror when you step on a freakin' TACK or accidently staple your FINGER ).

) ) ) ) ) I must say Brozza's pain faces were one of his highlights

chrisisall wrote:

9. He's in the crazy vehicles himself. GE tank? TND L-39 FENIX? TWINE boat? 'Nuff said. Okay... Connery was in the Moonbuggy... 8-)

Yes after all no Aston Martin, Lotus Esprit, Little Nellie, Citreon CV or glaston speedboat.

But he had the Invisible car..

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chrisisall wrote:

0. The heart strings tugging after-death smootch. :x

Not sure what you mean. He did grimace after Electra Kings death but it really is small beer compared with Connery reaction to Kerim Bey death and Craig to the death of Vesper

I think you think I am very hard on Brozzer. During Craigs time the role changed, we expected more. With Brozzer we went backwards. But to be honest I am grateful for keeping the role going. For that he deserves our thanks..

Thunderpussy

I Always liked him,( still do, The November Man ) as others have pointed out.
He got weak scripts, even D Craig would have struggled to work with them.
I do feel he doesn't deserve some of the hatred directed at him.

Higgins

broadshoulder wrote:

Yes, but his acting wasn't up to scratch. He couldn't handle the heavy duty acting scenes like Connery aboard the Orient Express or Dalton at the Prater Park

sorry man, that Prater-scene is scripted and acted sooooo pseudo-heavy* I always 8-) 8-) 8-) and cringe when I see it.

*IMO of course

Moore Than

I have always liked Pierce Brosnan as Bond. He's often referred to as the all rounder, covering all aspects well, but without putting his own stamp on the character like Sean Connery or Roger Moore did. That's pretty much how I see him.

Referring to a previous post. Like Higgins, I find the overuse of machine guns in the Brosnan films bothersome.

Moore Than

chrisisall wrote:

8. Realistic & relatable 'pain face' (yeah, you jokers who laugh at it never see YOUR OWN faces in a mirror when you step on a freakin' TACK or accidently staple your FINGER ).

Realistic & relatable, or a laugh?

Pierce Brosnan's PAINFACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hK9PBcRM9c

broadshoulder

Thunderpussy wrote:

I Always liked him,( still do, The November Man ) as others have pointed out.
He got weak scripts, even D Craig would have struggled to work with them.
I do feel he doesn't deserve some of the hatred directed at him.

To be honest I felt bad being awful about the Brozzer.

They picked a man well known in America due to Remington Steele (that sank without trace over here) and on the films he did afterwards. He was enthusiastic about being Bond and he always seemed thrilled to get the part. He was simply outgunned by his predecessor and successor..

But I am grateful for keeping the franchise going. And I love the way he laughs like the rest of us about the tidal wave sequences in Everything or Nothing..

broadshoulder

Moore Than wrote:

chrisisall wrote:

8. Realistic & relatable 'pain face' (yeah, you jokers who laugh at it never see YOUR OWN faces in a mirror when you step on a freakin' TACK or accidently staple your FINGER ).

Realistic & relatable, or a laugh?

Pierce Brosnan's PAINFACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hK9PBcRM9c

That's gone on my Facebook..

Virgil37

chrisisall wrote:

2. Could go from Connery serious ("Me too.") to Moore funny ("Does that make you 'R'?) in the blink of an eye.

I consider this very negative. The sudden changes in tone really hindered his performance. Not his fault though. Obviously the scripts were weak and unbalanced (as in TND, going from a I'm-alone-in-my-hotel-room-drinking-my-blues-away scene to the fight in the recording studio, which is almost a Monty Python scene).

chrisisall wrote:

3. Never lost enthuasiam for the role, no matter what crap script was handed him.

I think he did lose enthusiasm when he realised he was never going to play a gritty,serious Bond. In interviews he sasys he remembers GE and the rest "are a blur".

chrisisall wrote:

6. Never got fat.

True, never really appeared fat, but he was the actor who gained most weight while playing Bond. A direct quote from Imdb
"According to the James Bond tailors in London, he has been both the lightest and heaviest of all the James Bonds. The tailors who fitted him for his Bond films state that in his first Bond movie, GoldenEye (1995), he weighed 164 pounds, making him the lightest actor to play Bond. However, in his fourth Bond movie, Die Another Day (2002), he weighed 211 pounds, making him the heaviest actor to play Bond."

InternationalExports

4 Reasons why he wasn't
Goldeneye, Tomorow never dies, The World is not enough, Die Another day.

Me names Bond, Jimmy Bond are you after me pot of gold. I like Pierce, I have no doubt fromt he stories Daniel tells on how helpfull he was at getting him ready for the role, that Pierce is a really nice guy. But he was not a trained actor and his delivery was over acted, it did not come across as natural. It was like he was trying fit in to a stereotype of the charchter rather than making it his potrayal of the charchter. I think that is what he means when he talks of his regrets over his tenure.

Thunderpussy

Out of interest why do you think Pierce Brosnan is not a trained actor ?

chrisisall

Virgil37 wrote:

"... in his fourth Bond movie, Die Another Day (2002), he weighed 211 pounds, making him the heaviest actor to play Bond."

That's a bunch of crap. In TB Connery weighed 201 lbs, you think he wasn't way over 211 in DAF?

chrisisall

Thunderpussy wrote:

Out of interest why do you think Pierce Brosnan is not a trained actor ?

It's a fun & popular thing to say when you dislike an actor.

Thunderpussy

Could be )
I have read he studied Drama in London before becoming a stage actor for
Several years, along with bits of TV and movie work. Before going to America
Where he got his big break in Remington Steele.
That sounds like Training to me . )

InternationalExports

Thunderpussy wrote:

Out of interest why do you think Pierce Brosnan is not a trained actor ?

His role in the early part of his career in the industry was as an assistant stage manager at York Thearte, hate use the term but he "fell in to acting". He only really made brief supporting apperances in films prior to Bond. Most of his early work was in male modelling. He never trainined at a recognised performing arts academy, hence he is not a trained actor.

Craig joined the National Youth Theatre. And graduated at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama at the Barbican. Thats a trained actor. Joining a thearte and doing a few plays, you are not considered to be a trained actor.

Barbel

InternationalExports wrote:

He only really made brief supporting apperances in films prior to Bond.

No, that isn't accurate: "The Fourth Protocol", "Death Train", "Lawnmower Man"....

InternationalExports

Barbel, in which of those does he play a lead?

chrisisall

InternationalExports wrote:

He never trainined at a recognised performing arts academy, hence he is not a trained actor.

He's listed as training at the Drama Centre in London for three years. Is that in error?

InternationalExports

Brosnan ""When I found acting, or when acting found me, it was a liberation. It was a stepping stone into another life, away from a life that I had, and acting was something I was good at, something which was appreciated. That was a great satisfaction in my life." London Drama Centre is part of St Martin's college. It is not a recognised by BAFTA. There is also nothing to confirm he complete his training only that he attended, and that he trained to be a stage assistant rather than an actor.

Thunderpussy

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, but I'd say the " only fell into acting"
Is something actors say in interviews, in a humble way. Sir Roger always
Poked fun at himself. One other example is the Oscar Winner and Bond villain
Christopher Walken, who started as a Dancer.

InternationalExports

Anyway my point is I like him, I appreciate what he did for the franchise, he had the look but I don't think he is a particularly good actor.

chrisisall

InternationalExports wrote:

London Drama Centre is part of St Martin's college. It is not a recognised by BAFTA.

Who cares about whether BAFTA can recognize a school or not? Maybe BAFTA just needs a new ocularist...

There is also nothing to confirm he complete his training only that he attended,

He graduated.
Your facts are all in a tizzy here, my friend. And you don't even know he was a film star prior to Bond? Why are you even posting in this thread?

Barbel

InternationalExports wrote:

Barbel, in which of those does he play a lead?

In the early 90s, he played agent Mike Graham in



and the sequel



Here he's second-billed to Michael Caine in the film itself, which is reasonable:

chrisisall

InternationalExports wrote:

There is nothing to show he graduated in acting thats a fact.

Do you honestly think I can take one thing you say about Brosnan seriously after you asking Barbel which of those films Brosnan was the lead in? Do your quick little searches to back up your negativity if you like, but your time might be better spent discussing what you actually know. )

chrisisall

Barbel wrote:

In the early 90s, he played agent Mike Graham

Don't forget Taffin, Live Wire, and the TV mini-series Nobel House!

Barbel

Not forgetting them, thanks Chris, just giving a few examples to show that Brosnan was playing leads before Bond.

Barbel

InternationalExports wrote:

You fricken serious those may as well be TV movies from the abyss. I said prior to bond he had done bit part supporting role.

And you were wrong to say that, as well as wrong in how you've responded.