"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
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I just don't like the way it's delivered, but to each their own.
Maybe the line itself was okay though, but again, don't like the way it's delivered.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
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I'm curious. For those who have AVTAK so low on there list, I see some saying if Dalton did the film it could have been great or even the best. I'm curious why you think that. I know to many Moore's age is a factor and that the film is more serious then Moore's usual outings. But would having Dalton jump it that much more up.
It would have needed some re-writing to accommodate Dalton's style, but yes, I think if Dalton had gotten AVTAK as his first it would have been fantastic.
Dalton's Bond against Zorin would have been epic -{
I will say that I prefer Moore in AVTAK to Connery in DAF.
One thing I didn't mention: I feel Jenny Flex wasn't a necessary character, as she got little development. One henchperson too many.
It should've been May Day, Scarpine, and the doctor. Just my opinion though.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
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I'm curious. For those who have AVTAK so low on there list, I see some saying if Dalton did the film it could have been great or even the best. I'm curious why you think that. I know to many Moore's age is a factor and that the film is more serious then Moore's usual outings. But would having Dalton jump it that much more up.
It would have needed some re-writing to accommodate Dalton's style, but yes, I think if Dalton had gotten AVTAK as his first it would have been fantastic.
Dalton's Bond against Zorin would have been epic -{
I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
I'm curious. For those who have AVTAK so low on there list, I see some saying if Dalton did the film it could have been great or even the best. I'm curious why you think that. I know to many Moore's age is a factor and that the film is more serious then Moore's usual outings. But would having Dalton jump it that much more up.
It would have needed some re-writing to accommodate Dalton's style, but yes, I think if Dalton had gotten AVTAK as his first it would have been fantastic.
Dalton's Bond against Zorin would have been epic -{
I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
Perhaps not, but it could have been re-written to suit his character better. With a bit more serious tone throughout.
It would have needed some re-writing to accommodate Dalton's style, but yes, I think if Dalton had gotten AVTAK as his first it would have been fantastic.
Dalton's Bond against Zorin would have been epic -{
I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
Perhaps not, but it could have been re-written to suit his character better. With a bit more serious tone throughout.
Much of the film would indeed need to be rewritten for Dalton. It would need more than just removing some of Moore's quips. I think Dalton got the best introductory film he could have gotten with TLD. Even if AVTAK were significantly rewritten to suit Dalton, it couldn't have been nearly as good as TLD.
I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
Perhaps not, but it could have been re-written to suit his character better. With a bit more serious tone throughout.
Much of the film would indeed need to be rewritten for Dalton. It would need more than just removing some of Moore's quips. I think Dalton got the best introductory film he could have gotten with TLD. Even if AVTAK were significantly rewritten to suit Dalton, it couldn't have been nearly as good as TLD.
Actually, what Matt S said. Kill was written for an ageing amiable Roger Moore. but Dalton was designed for Daylights. Its his film through and through
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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Roger's age isn't really a major issue for me, although I think it might be one of the things that hinders his chemistry with Roberts.
At least he manages to give a good performance, which is an impressive feat considering it was his 7th time as 007.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
Perhaps not, but it could have been re-written to suit his character better. With a bit more serious tone throughout.
Much of the film would indeed need to be rewritten for Dalton. It would need more than just removing some of Moore's quips. I think Dalton got the best introductory film he could have gotten with TLD. Even if AVTAK were significantly rewritten to suit Dalton, it couldn't have been nearly as good as TLD.
I do agree, but would still be interested to see how it turned out. TLD is my favourite overall Bond film.
I kind of wish Dalton had come on board from FYEO through to LTK. It would have given him more time to explore the character, and they would all have been cracking films for him if some were re-written a bit.
Not that Roger did not do a great job, because he did -{
I think the title sequence is a bit weird with the dancing femenine figures.
But I think the Duran Duran song is great. Sets you up well for the rest of the film.
Could it be, the whole earth opening wiiidddee?
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
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I think Jarvio's the biggest fan of AVTAK on the forum.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
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Some Bond films are meant to be rated and enjoyed, while some are meant to be only enjoyed (trying to judge such films with the critics' hat on is a pointless exercise). AVTAK falls in the later category. The film has many negatives (including probably the worst set of Bond girls, PTS, ....), however, like all Bond films it is still entertaining - Zorin is pretty good, the song by Duran Duran is awesome, and ofc the sequence at the Golden Gate Bridge, etc.
I do prefer AVTAK to the likes of TB, CR '06, QoS, and DAF personally.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
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I think Jarvio's the biggest fan of AVTAK on the forum.
Maybe... anyone else care to challenge me to that title?
I do love AVTAK. When I first joined this forum, I was genuinely shocked to find out that it is cited as one of the worst. I really don't see many flaws in it, and the flaws it does have, are only small. I think it is completely, unfairly bashed on.
DAD I can see why it's a low-ranker for most. As I do MR. And even TMWTGG, which I quite like.
But AVTAK is just.... really really good.
Oh, and Stacey Sutton isn't even the worst bond girl - Jinx is!
I think Jarvio's the biggest fan of AVTAK on the forum.
Maybe... anyone else care to challenge me to that title?
I do love AVTAK. When I first joined this forum, I was genuinely shocked to find out that it is cited as one of the worst. I really don't see many flaws in it, and the flaws it does have, are only small. I think it is completely, unfairly bashed on.
DAD I can see why it's a low-ranker for most. As I do MR. And even TMWTGG, which I quite like.
But AVTAK is just.... really really good.
Oh, and Stacey Sutton isn't even the worst bond girl - Jinx is!
I, on behalf of this forum dare to challenge you! :v
"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
* Skip PTS
* Listen to the song (if in the mood)
* WATCH from post song to when Zorin says "to a kill" when looking at the Golden Gate Bridge
* Skip the US parts (the fire truck chase is good once the vehicles get on to that bridge. Till than its normal affair w/ Sheriff Pepper like character providing some lighter moments if you prefer)
* WATCH from when May Day is taking the bomb out to the end
I think Jarvio's the biggest fan of AVTAK on the forum.
Maybe... anyone else care to challenge me to that title?
I do love AVTAK. When I first joined this forum, I was genuinely shocked to find out that it is cited as one of the worst. I really don't see many flaws in it, and the flaws it does have, are only small. I think it is completely, unfairly bashed on.
DAD I can see why it's a low-ranker for most. As I do MR. And even TMWTGG, which I quite like.
But AVTAK is just.... really really good.
Oh, and Stacey Sutton isn't even the worst bond girl - Jinx is!
As much as I enjoy AVTAK I obviously don't rate it as high you do Jarvio.
But one thing we certainly agree on is Jinx is the worst Bond girl. -{
* Skip PTS
* Listen to the song (if in the mood)
* WATCH from post song to when Zorin says "to a kill" when looking at the Golden Gate Bridge
* Skip the US parts (the fire truck chase is good once the vehicles get on to that bridge. Till than its normal affair w/ Sheriff Pepper like character providing some lighter moments if you prefer)
* WATCH from when May Day is taking the bomb out to the end
-{
strange way to watch a Bond movie...well hardly a movie anymore
"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
Comments
Yeah, that's a weird moment.
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What's wrong with that line? It fits well in that scene and in the film overall, considering it has some of the most sexual lines of any Bond film.
Maybe the line itself was okay though, but again, don't like the way it's delivered.
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1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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Pros
It's the best Roger Moore one!
Cons
No cons, there are no cons! -{
It would have needed some re-writing to accommodate Dalton's style, but yes, I think if Dalton had gotten AVTAK as his first it would have been fantastic.
Dalton's Bond against Zorin would have been epic -{
One thing I didn't mention: I feel Jenny Flex wasn't a necessary character, as she got little development. One henchperson too many.
It should've been May Day, Scarpine, and the doctor. Just my opinion though.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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I just can't see Dalton as James St. John Smythe. Dalton would have been great during the second half of the film, but nobody could have done the first half better than Moore. Brosnan could have pulled it off, since he did some similar characters to St. John Smythe in Remington Steele.
Perhaps not, but it could have been re-written to suit his character better. With a bit more serious tone throughout.
Much of the film would indeed need to be rewritten for Dalton. It would need more than just removing some of Moore's quips. I think Dalton got the best introductory film he could have gotten with TLD. Even if AVTAK were significantly rewritten to suit Dalton, it couldn't have been nearly as good as TLD.
Actually, what Matt S said. Kill was written for an ageing amiable Roger Moore. but Dalton was designed for Daylights. Its his film through and through
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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Good John Barry score.
The title song was not bad
The pre credits was fun.
Walken as a manic villain.
CONS
Grace Jones
Old Roger
It's a fun film Imo, not the best but still Bond.
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At least he manages to give a good performance, which is an impressive feat considering it was his 7th time as 007.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
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I do agree, but would still be interested to see how it turned out. TLD is my favourite overall Bond film.
I kind of wish Dalton had come on board from FYEO through to LTK. It would have given him more time to explore the character, and they would all have been cracking films for him if some were re-written a bit.
Not that Roger did not do a great job, because he did -{
But I think the Duran Duran song is great. Sets you up well for the rest of the film.
Could it be, the whole earth opening wiiidddee?
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
was his last film. I do have some strong sentimental feelings for it.
Best start to a title sequence though, the unzipping and reveal of 007 on the cleavage!
"Better make that two."
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
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" I don't listen to hip hop!"
Maybe... anyone else care to challenge me to that title?
I do love AVTAK. When I first joined this forum, I was genuinely shocked to find out that it is cited as one of the worst. I really don't see many flaws in it, and the flaws it does have, are only small. I think it is completely, unfairly bashed on.
DAD I can see why it's a low-ranker for most. As I do MR. And even TMWTGG, which I quite like.
But AVTAK is just.... really really good.
Oh, and Stacey Sutton isn't even the worst bond girl - Jinx is!
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I, on behalf of this forum dare to challenge you! :v
* Skip PTS
* Listen to the song (if in the mood)
* WATCH from post song to when Zorin says "to a kill" when looking at the Golden Gate Bridge
* Skip the US parts (the fire truck chase is good once the vehicles get on to that bridge. Till than its normal affair w/ Sheriff Pepper like character providing some lighter moments if you prefer)
* WATCH from when May Day is taking the bomb out to the end
-{
As much as I enjoy AVTAK I obviously don't rate it as high you do Jarvio.
But one thing we certainly agree on is Jinx is the worst Bond girl. -{
strange way to watch a Bond movie...well hardly a movie anymore