Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
edited December 2014
I have all the Eon films on DVD (some twice by accident) the only two I don't have are CR-67 anf NSNA. Do I dislike them? No. But NSNA does feel a little dated as far as wardrobe and music is concerned and the temple is not convincing as a set. However the story is a good rebash of Thunderball and there are no duds in the cast. As BLeighter has noted Bernie Casey is brilliant as Felix, and I do like Edward Fox's stuffy and short fused M. In some ways both actors foreshadow Jeffery Wright and Ralph Finnes today. Every time its on, I watch it.
CR-67? For comedy value two lines. Exploding kamakaze Robot Grouse and Drinka-Pinta-Milka BOOM!!! Hilarious!
But its a film that needs a double Scotch to appreciate properly. Again I always watch it on the telly, but have no desire to own. As a spoof it works, but is clearly the tripy psychadelic mad cousin of the other films. Although, I can't help feel the Eon films were robbed to not have David Niven, Barbera Buchette, Dali Lavia or Orson Welles appear in them somewhere.
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I do not own any of the unofficial ones, including Never Say Never Again, the 1954 and 1967 films titled Casino Royale (admittedly I haven't seen either of those two yet).
Skyfall.
Debating if I should buy it to make a complete set, although I doubt if I would ever watch it.
If I had seen it in the theatre I wouldn't have allowed it to be given to me as a gift. I do meant to watch it a second time, but whenever I put it on I end up taking it off to watch a Connery or Moore or Brosnan Bond (the Dalton ones I watch only on special occasions).
OTOH QOS has been watched a LOT.
Do any of you have a Bond film that you wish you did not own? I have to admit when I look at my copy of LALD I am kind of disappointed in myself.
Awww, that's a fun movie IMO.
Years ago I owned NSNA on DVD, but then I needed some cash and decided to sell off a bit of my DVD collection. I judged which movies I was realistically never going to watch again, and that was one of them.
My OCD side is happy to have all of the official Bonds. At the same time I have some never watch and I think I would have been better burning my cash or makin' it rain. I also kind of worry when people look at my movie collection they might think I like some of the less awesome Bonds. I admit this might be a crazy thought.
Own all the DVDS and Blu Rays (Bond 50 boxset) of the EON movies. And I have NSNA on DVD (the blu ray is still ridiculously expensive) but I don't own CR67 or CR54. Never even seen those! From what I've heard its best to stay away from those!
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
edited December 2014
Re CR-67, M and BLeiter highlight the key opinions of this film. If Monty Python style surrealist mad comedy appeals to you, and Bond parody is something that sets you off, its hilarious. However if that type of comedy does nothing for you, its a no go show. A lot of the humour I find is from the school of thought its so bad, its hysterically bad. Made funnier by the whole "we couldn't make a Bond, so we made this." Literally an Epic fail! The first time I saw the Castle McTarry scenes I thought, "As a Scot, I should find the stereotypes offensive. But they are SO bad its hysterical!" - A sharp contrast to Castle Thane in TWINE, which I wish was real!
Don't get me wrong its a terrible film! Like AS and Cap Scarlet I would not spend a penny in it. Well, in one sense... Uneven, disjointed and key pieces are missing. Val Guest deserved a medal and a bottle of Scotch for being able to tag the pieces he was given together as well as he did. Too many cooks blew up the broth!
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I love Monty Python and in fact some surreal comedies are fantastic but
CR67, leaves me cold. I'm guessing it was great fun to make with many
Laughs and giggles on set. Sadly none of that made it on screen. ) When
My times comes to die and I'm pumped full of morphine, I'll give it one last
Go. Perhaps high on drugs, might give me an insight to the " Comedy" hidden
Within ! )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I love Monty Python and in fact some surreal comedies are fantastic but
CR67, leaves me cold. I'm guessing it was great fun to make with many
Laughs and giggles on set. Sadly none of that made it on screen. ) When
My times comes to die and I'm pumped full of morphine, I'll give it one last
Go. Perhaps high on drugs, might give me an insight to the " Comedy" hidden
Within ! )
Thanks for blowing my theory out of the grouse infested water Pussy! - Try it after a treble Scotch. That worked for me. The making of the film was NOT a laugh on set. Anything but.
Peter Sellers was fighting to save his marriage so often went missing for days. He was pissed off with Orson Welles and would not work with him after Welles made an off comment about his punctuality, topped by HRH Princess Margaret a friend of Sellars, making a bee line for Welles when she visited the set. It is unknown if Sellars walked or was sacked, but by the glaringly obvious missing footage for his character, the former seems more likely.
Ursula Andres tried to be diplomatic about her involvement, by saying she had no idea what was going on with the film and everyone was in a daze. An unsurprising understatement, as there were 5 active directors all doing separate pieces across three different studios, and a 6th piecing the whole mess together. All this for a producer who kept changing his mind and jumping all over the place with his ideas after green lit pieces were already underway.
When Val Guest proposed how he could piece the mess of footage together into a sort of semblance, Charles Feldman gratefully said he would give him special credit as "Co-ordinating director." Guest angrily retorted that if he did, he would sue Feldman for every penny he had left after the film bombed for destroying his reputation! The credit was wisely changed to "Additional sequences By" instead!
Woody Allen and Peter Sellars were both so worked up and angry at the whole shambles and their treatment (in Sellars case it was decidedly self inflicted) they happily told the press what they thought. Sellars blew the story, Allen about his treatment and the concept. - In the end all the cast were all relieved that the audience wanted to forget the monstrosity they were presented with, as much as they themselves wanted to forget their involvement in it. Some have theorised that the strain emotional and financial, was so much it let to Feldmans death a year later.
At the same time YOLT soared through the box office and barely noticed the hubbub next door so to speak! -{
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Nice to know TB2 {[] , I know very little about CR67, as I never had
Much interest in it apart from being an oddity. Although I do remember
That it was by the same producer or part of the same team who made
" What's new pussycat ". ? And filmed CR in the same way with people
Improvising lines etc.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
There's a story that Feldman asked Connery to star in CR67, and Connery said he would for £1m (an outrageous fee at the time). Feldman declined. When the two met after the release of the wildly over-budget CR67, Feldman ruefully remarked to Connery that he wished he'd paid him the million.
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Thanks Barbel - I knew I had forgotten something!
Pussy! Barbel's next Early morning / post gig fry up at the S&BrS is on me! {[]
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Connery was stopped from doing the film by Broccoli & Saltzman anyway...no matter the money involved...and Allen wrote his own lines for the film...
True M, - but Feldman kept rewriting to remove the gags - leaving the set ups with no pay off! Understandably, this left Allen more than a little peeved and upset. Thankfully Guest was filming those pieces and (perhaps predicting the full nappy he knew he would have to deal with) said to Allen, - don't worry about him, we will put all the jokes back when we shoot! - Which is precisely what they did, Thankfully.
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Even if Connery had been in it, I doubt that the Film still would of been any good.
IF Connery had been in it the film would have been a completely different beast...it would have been played straight for a start...no spoofing...
Too bad that never happened. Not only would we perhaps have gotten another stellar Connery Bond film, but we would have been spared the monstrosity that now exists!
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Even if Connery had been in it, I doubt that the Film still would of been any good.
IF Connery had been in it the film would have been a completely different beast...it would have been played straight for a start...no spoofing...
Too bad that never happened. Not only would we perhaps have gotten another stellar Connery Bond film, but we would have been spared the monstrosity that now exists!
It certainly would have been interesting to see ! But I'm happy enough with CR67 as we got the super CR06 -{
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CR-67? For comedy value two lines. Exploding kamakaze Robot Grouse and Drinka-Pinta-Milka BOOM!!! Hilarious!
But its a film that needs a double Scotch to appreciate properly. Again I always watch it on the telly, but have no desire to own. As a spoof it works, but is clearly the tripy psychadelic mad cousin of the other films. Although, I can't help feel the Eon films were robbed to not have David Niven, Barbera Buchette, Dali Lavia or Orson Welles appear in them somewhere.
I do not own any of the unofficial ones, including Never Say Never Again, the 1954 and 1967 films titled Casino Royale (admittedly I haven't seen either of those two yet).
Debating if I should buy it to make a complete set, although I doubt if I would ever watch it.
I'll probably end up getting it when I buy some future box set of the entire series.
I also don't own CR '67, but that hardly counts as a Bond film. However, I do have Casino Royale 1954 on VHS.
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OTOH QOS has been watched a LOT.
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Years ago I owned NSNA on DVD, but then I needed some cash and decided to sell off a bit of my DVD collection. I judged which movies I was realistically never going to watch again, and that was one of them.
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Don't get me wrong its a terrible film! Like AS and Cap Scarlet I would not spend a penny in it. Well, in one sense... Uneven, disjointed and key pieces are missing. Val Guest deserved a medal and a bottle of Scotch for being able to tag the pieces he was given together as well as he did. Too many cooks blew up the broth!
CR67, leaves me cold.
Laughs and giggles on set. Sadly none of that made it on screen.
My times comes to die and I'm pumped full of morphine, I'll give it one last
Go. Perhaps high on drugs, might give me an insight to the " Comedy" hidden
Within !
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Thanks for blowing my theory out of the grouse infested water Pussy! - Try it after a treble Scotch. That worked for me. The making of the film was NOT a laugh on set. Anything but.
Peter Sellers was fighting to save his marriage so often went missing for days. He was pissed off with Orson Welles and would not work with him after Welles made an off comment about his punctuality, topped by HRH Princess Margaret a friend of Sellars, making a bee line for Welles when she visited the set. It is unknown if Sellars walked or was sacked, but by the glaringly obvious missing footage for his character, the former seems more likely.
Ursula Andres tried to be diplomatic about her involvement, by saying she had no idea what was going on with the film and everyone was in a daze. An unsurprising understatement, as there were 5 active directors all doing separate pieces across three different studios, and a 6th piecing the whole mess together. All this for a producer who kept changing his mind and jumping all over the place with his ideas after green lit pieces were already underway.
When Val Guest proposed how he could piece the mess of footage together into a sort of semblance, Charles Feldman gratefully said he would give him special credit as "Co-ordinating director." Guest angrily retorted that if he did, he would sue Feldman for every penny he had left after the film bombed for destroying his reputation! The credit was wisely changed to "Additional sequences By" instead!
Woody Allen and Peter Sellars were both so worked up and angry at the whole shambles and their treatment (in Sellars case it was decidedly self inflicted) they happily told the press what they thought. Sellars blew the story, Allen about his treatment and the concept. - In the end all the cast were all relieved that the audience wanted to forget the monstrosity they were presented with, as much as they themselves wanted to forget their involvement in it. Some have theorised that the strain emotional and financial, was so much it let to Feldmans death a year later.
At the same time YOLT soared through the box office and barely noticed the hubbub next door so to speak! -{
Much interest in it apart from being an oddity. Although I do remember
That it was by the same producer or part of the same team who made
" What's new pussycat ". ? And filmed CR in the same way with people
Improvising lines etc.
Pussy! Barbel's next Early morning / post gig fry up at the S&BrS is on me! {[]
True M, - but Feldman kept rewriting to remove the gags - leaving the set ups with no pay off! Understandably, this left Allen more than a little peeved and upset. Thankfully Guest was filming those pieces and (perhaps predicting the full nappy he knew he would have to deal with) said to Allen, - don't worry about him, we will put all the jokes back when we shoot! - Which is precisely what they did, Thankfully.
IF Connery had been in it the film would have been a completely different beast...it would have been played straight for a start...no spoofing...
Too bad that never happened. Not only would we perhaps have gotten another stellar Connery Bond film, but we would have been spared the monstrosity that now exists!
It certainly would have been interesting to see ! But I'm happy enough with CR67 as we got the super CR06 -{
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