I don't think a misogynist makes it known to people that he is one. However, the novels that Fleming writes I think quite clearly show us that Bond IS a misogynist.
1. Goldfinger 2. Skyfall 3. Goldeneye 4. The Spy Who Loved Me 5. OHMSS
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"I never joke about my work, 007."
I don't think a misogynist makes it known to people that he is one. However, the novels that Fleming writes I think quite clearly show us that Bond IS a misogynist.
But which novel did it explicitly state that he was a misogynist?
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
In GF, Bond says " there would be the sweet tang of Rape, about the love making"
( might not be GF, but I think it is)
Fleming enjoyed handing out a bit of a spanking, so I guess he transfered that
On to Bond.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I don't think a misogynist makes it known to people that he is one. However, the novels that Fleming writes I think quite clearly show us that Bond IS a misogynist.
Agree.
No misogynist will say they're mistreating women. They'll just mistreat women and say "she got what she deserved".
In GF, Bond says " there would be the sweet tang of Rape, about the love making"
( might not be GF, but I think it is)
Fleming enjoyed handing out a bit of a spanking, so I guess he transfered that
On to Bond.
Sorry but I don't like johnnies using the 'flavour of the month' word on Bond.
He's far too complex then that. Was it Tracy he says "good girl" too and he has a sneaky admiration for Domino surviving her torture, wriggling out her cabin, and killing Largo.
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
In CR, Bond also says something along the lives of why do women get
Involved in the espionage business as they weren't mmentally cut out for it.
When speaking about Vesper.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
In CR, Bond also says something along the lives of why do women get
Involved in the espionage business as they weren't mmentally cut out for it.
When speaking about Vesper.
i think deep down he knows he isn't cut out for marriage
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
In the MR Novel, Fleming describes how the Women working in the Regents Park Headquarters will become 'Married to the Job' if they have been working there for a certain Amount of Time.
1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
Even M points out in GE......
" I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. A relic of the Cold War, whose boyish charms, though wasted on me, obviously appealed to that young woman I sent out to evaluate you "
And I wouldn't argue with Dame Judi.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Even M points out in GE......
" I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. A relic of the Cold War, whose boyish charms, though wasted on me, obviously appealed to that young woman I sent out to evaluate you "
And I wouldn't argue with Dame Judi.
As much as I like you Thunderpussy ) ) ) )
I don't pay much attention to GE.
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
That's the problem, I can't remember and she keeps spanking me
With that riding crop. I should never have taken her to 50 shades " )
Although, I regard Bond's views on women as the same as many men's
Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, and I'm sure women
Feel the same about men.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
That's the problem, I can't remember and she keeps spanking me
With that riding crop. I should never have taken her to 50 shades " )
Although, I regard Bond's views on women as the same as many men's
Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, and I'm sure women
Feel the same about men.
I think you've got it in one...
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
In CR, Bond also says something along the lives of why do women get
Involved in the espionage business as they weren't mmentally cut out for it.
When speaking about Vesper.
i think deep down he knows he isn't cut out for marriage
It's the marriage angle that makes FRWL sort of weird. Tania's obviously in love with Bond and seems to really expect to marry him and keeps going on about life in England. Bond, on the other hand doesn't seem to care for her except when he's boinking her. When Grant/Nash tells Bond there's only room for one on the escape route, Bond doesn't protest. So, what's he plan to do? Leave on the train, drugged, in the middle of Yugoslavia travelling on a phoney passport, with SMERSH on her trail?
From Russia with Love is probably the best Bond film -- it may not be the best Bond movie (Goldfinger), the best Bond story (On Her Majesty's Secret Service), or the best Bond actioner (Casino Royale), but it certainly is the most mature and plausible of any of the Bond outings.
Pros
Young's direction
All of the performances
High production values
Beautiful scenery
Sweeping cinematography
Barry's score, including 007 theme
Wit instead of jokes
Great clothes, sets, locations, cars, and interiors and exteriors.
Genuine suspense and adventure
PTS that is more of a "cold opener," as many TV shows of the period had
Memorable characters
True sense of espionage and mystery in the plot and visuals
Minimal gadgetry
Blofeld scenes
Chess scenes
Cons
Borrows a bit too much from Hitchcock
Thoughtful script and pace makes it less suitable for casual viewing
The Gypsy Camp Fight is one of my favourite Scenes in the whole of FRWL -{ ( It's in the Novel as well)
I like how the gypsy camp scenes (dinner, girl fight, gun fight) immerse Bond in Istanbul's culture, as opposed to how Skyfall just uses Istanbul as a backdrop for a generic chase. You really fell like you're in Istanbul in From Russia with Love.
My family is Roma (not “Gypsy.” That is a very offensive term.) From my experience with my family and doing extensive fieldwork ( I have a masters in Ethnography,) Roma men are not more misogynistic than the average Joe having coffee at the local McDonalds. The “Gypsy” fight in FRWL is appalling.
Apologies for any offence caused, Vesper. None was intended. In discussing this scene we're using the terms mentioned historically in the novel which were carried forward into the film. Apologies again.
Apologies for any offence caused, Vesper. None was intended. In discussing this scene we're using the terms mentioned historically in the novel which were carried forward into the film. Apologies again.
I am used to historical portrayals of the Roma people as wife beating baby thieves. If you read anything from Jane Austen to Fleming it will feature vignettes of “Gypsies” pick pocketing or attaching women. In scene in FRWL is one of the most vile I have seen it a film. That being said I understand that it is no difference than other very horrendous portrayal of minority groups in other films. In YOLT Bond has yellow face, LALD is basically a blaxploitation film, etc. I am not offended, I just am not pleased when people discuss contemporary Roma culture and morality and their only reference is “My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.”
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Exactly where did he say he was a misogynist?
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"I never joke about my work, 007."
But which novel did it explicitly state that he was a misogynist?
( might not be GF, but I think it is)
Fleming enjoyed handing out a bit of a spanking, so I guess he transfered that
On to Bond.
Agree.
No misogynist will say they're mistreating women. They'll just mistreat women and say "she got what she deserved".
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Sorry but I don't like johnnies using the 'flavour of the month' word on Bond.
He's far too complex then that. Was it Tracy he says "good girl" too and he has a sneaky admiration for Domino surviving her torture, wriggling out her cabin, and killing Largo.
Involved in the espionage business as they weren't mmentally cut out for it.
When speaking about Vesper.
i think deep down he knows he isn't cut out for marriage
" I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. A relic of the Cold War, whose boyish charms, though wasted on me, obviously appealed to that young woman I sent out to evaluate you "
And I wouldn't argue with Dame Judi.
As much as I like you Thunderpussy
I don't pay much attention to GE.
With that riding crop.
Although, I regard Bond's views on women as the same as many men's
Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, and I'm sure women
Feel the same about men.
I think you've got it in one...
It's CR, TP.
Fleming describes it in the saying " a whisper of love, a whisper of hate "
It's the marriage angle that makes FRWL sort of weird. Tania's obviously in love with Bond and seems to really expect to marry him and keeps going on about life in England. Bond, on the other hand doesn't seem to care for her except when he's boinking her. When Grant/Nash tells Bond there's only room for one on the escape route, Bond doesn't protest. So, what's he plan to do? Leave on the train, drugged, in the middle of Yugoslavia travelling on a phoney passport, with SMERSH on her trail?
Pros
Young's direction
All of the performances
High production values
Beautiful scenery
Sweeping cinematography
Barry's score, including 007 theme
Wit instead of jokes
Great clothes, sets, locations, cars, and interiors and exteriors.
Genuine suspense and adventure
PTS that is more of a "cold opener," as many TV shows of the period had
Memorable characters
True sense of espionage and mystery in the plot and visuals
Minimal gadgetry
Blofeld scenes
Chess scenes
Cons
Borrows a bit too much from Hitchcock
Thoughtful script and pace makes it less suitable for casual viewing
It's clearly Tomorrow Never Dies, bro.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
Good acting
Good overall story
Good villain(s)
Train scene
Cons:
The first half drags a bit
The gypsy camp is unnecessary, if it was cut the story would have tighter pacing and be better overall
I like how the gypsy camp scenes (dinner, girl fight, gun fight) immerse Bond in Istanbul's culture, as opposed to how Skyfall just uses Istanbul as a backdrop for a generic chase. You really fell like you're in Istanbul in From Russia with Love.
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