Pros and Cons: The Living Daylights

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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    "Explosive teddy bear"
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:

    This is a good point. What they have in common is a darker gritty more realistic portrayal of the character, but that does not mean Craig is a copy of Dalton. Aside from that, there's a lot of differences between them. Moore and Connery both have their character with a sense of humor, but that doesn't mean Moore is a copy of Connery.
    Exactly. They are each their own Bond.

    That's true.

    A shame Caroline Bliss didn't manage to make much of an impact as Moneypenny.

    They kept Maxwell for over 2 decades and Bliss got the short end of the stick.

    And her most memorable moment is perhaps when she suggests to Bond to listen to her Barry Manilow collection.

    I wish they would have kept Bliss for Brosnan's Bond films. Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny. Age isn't a factor because S. Bond is only a few months younger than Bliss. I would have loved to listen to Bliss' Barry Manilow collection ;)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I wish they would have kept Bliss for Brosnan's Bond films. Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny. Age isn't a factor because S. Bond is only a few months younger than Bliss. I would have loved to listen to Bliss' Barry Manilow collection ;)
    Matt, you and I are in a small club here... {[]
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny.

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny.

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.
    I though she was beautiful all the time but Caroline was just so enchanting as MP...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny.

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.

    Though I think Bliss was much better looking, it's S. Bond's personality that is the main problem. She doesn't know the difference between playing hard to get and just being mean.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny.

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.

    Though I think Bliss was much better looking, it's S. Bond's personality that is the main problem. She doesn't know the difference between playing hard to get and just being mean.
    Yep. {[]
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.

    Though I think Bliss was much better looking, it's S. Bond's personality that is the main problem. She doesn't know the difference between playing hard to get and just being mean.
    Yep. {[]

    She clearly wanted Bond, but all she would do is push him away. I feel like if Bond ever asked her out, she would no longer have any interest in him. Not with the other Moneypennys.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I don't think S. Bond was that bad as Moneypenny, but to each their own.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    I would have liked to seen Caroline Bliss have a chance to continue as Moneypenny as well. I liked the Dalton MI6 team of Bliss, Desmond and Robert Brown. Honestly I wouldn't have minded if GoldenEye had that team.....Tim included :)
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    Matt S wrote:
    Samantha Bond was a horrible Moneypenny.

    I liked her look the most in GE, after that, she kinda lost her looks a bit. They wrote her as being quite defensive with Bond.

    They really did. She crossed the line into bitchiness...

    And with the masturbation scene at the end of DAD. By that time I had given up hope....
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I feel like if Bond ever asked her out, she would no longer have any interest in him. Not with the other Moneypennys.

    Agree. She was written too much in the sense that she was over him. But then again, Bliss was far too interested in Bond - she was too easy. I thought her acting was poor too.

    Maxwell is probably the best, but honestly, as much as I love her, she got too old :# TMWTGG was her last one where she looked okay to me.

    Now, Smallbone - ooo yeah.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    Bliss as Moneypenny was pure essence!!!!!!!

    Those glasses, the camisole tops under her blouse, the slightly messy hair. I would have her as my secretary any day of the week!



    carolinebliss.jpg



    I'm also getting to like Naomi Harris now that she had a bit more to do in Spectre.
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,342MI6 Agent
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Anyone here have the Playboy featuring Ms. D'abo?
    I had it as a kid, long ago...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    .... In a Bedroom, far, far away ? :v
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Anyone here have the Playboy featuring Ms. D'abo?
    I had it as a kid, long ago...

    Like asking me if I have fancy footwear :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I disagree with Jarvio on Kara. I'm with those that say that she's a likeable BG.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Anyone here have the Playboy featuring Ms. D'abo?
    I had it as a kid, long ago...

    Like asking me if I have fancy footwear :D
    :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    "It's all so boring here Margot. (...) I need to find a real man."

    "I need to use your phone. She'll call you back."

    "Who are you?"

    "Bond, James Bond. Exercise control, this is 007. Will report in an hour." (hope I got this right)

    "Won't you join me?"

    "Better make that two."
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,923Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Anyone here have the Playboy featuring Ms. D'abo?
    I had it as a kid, long ago...

    Like asking me if I have fancy footwear :D

    That's a NO then ! ;)
    YNWA 97
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    "It's all so boring here Margot. (...) I need to find a real man."

    "I need to use your phone. She'll call you back."

    "Who are you?"

    "Bond, James Bond. Exercise control, this is 007. Will report in an hour." (hope I got this right)

    "Won't you join me?"

    "Better make that two."

    Dah-dah-dah-da-lu-du, dah, dah dah.

    Excellent!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    Hey driver, where we going?
    I swear, my nerves are showing
    Set your sights up way too high
    The living's in the way we diiiiieeeeee
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • Robbo88Robbo88 Newcastle, England.Posts: 253MI6 Agent
    "Hold on. You're dead." :))
    "Sic Parvis Magna"
    "Greatness From Small Beginnings."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Comes the morning
    And the daylights fade awayyyyy
    Hundred thousand people
    I'm the one they frammmmeeeee
    I've been waiting lonnngggg
    For one of us to sayyyyy
    Save the darkness
    Let it neeeeever fade awayyyyy
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,342MI6 Agent
    Compared to Zorin or Sanchez , Koskov is a little weak....... Still a great movie though -{

    I think the ending in Afghanistan is cool , dropping bomb , fighting Necros etc.
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    Compared to Zorin or Sanchez , Koskov is a little weak....... Still a great movie though -{

    I think the ending in Afghanistan is cool , dropping bomb , fighting Necros etc.

    I actually like Koskov more than Sanchez.

    Sanchez isn't really one of my fave BVs, he comes across too much like a Godfather wannabe to me.

    Koskov, on the other hand, feels more like an original villain to me.

    Just my opinion.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    IMO Zorin is overrated as a villain. Yep it's Christopher Walken - but I'm very aware of that. He's good, but not great.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Pros:

    -Dalton gives a terrific debut performance, owning the part of 007.
    -Fantastic action.
    -Great chemistry between Dalton and D'Abo.
    -Terrific score.
    -Whitaker and Koskov are likeable villains.
    -Masterful directing from John Glen.
    -Saunders is a good Bond Ally.
    -Great dialogue.

    Cons:
    -Complicated plot.
    -Necros is a clear Red Grant clone.
    -Bond finds raw opium, as he had done previously in FYEO.

    Overall, I love TLD, and give it a 10/10.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Necros is a clear Red Grant clone.

    "Humph...Flu."

    At least Necros does impressions!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
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