Pros and Cons: Goldeneye

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
    a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
    hour film. :))
    oh where, is Absolute_Cart. ;)
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  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
    a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
    hour film. :))

    it just sounds too ridiculous too be true :))
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
    a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
    hour film. :))
    oh where, is Absolute_Cart. ;)

    We're having a laugh

    Our tongue is very firmly in our cheek..
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) Now that is Naughty ! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

    Here's my guess:

    1) Connery
    2) Craig
    3) Dalton
    4) Lazenby
    5) Moore
    6) Brosnan
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,923Chief of Staff
    am747 wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    am747 wrote:

    Refer to post #328 -{

    I did....totally redundant post 8-)

    So please enlighten me in words as to why you think that scene is crude -{

    But if you don't get it through pics, how are you going to get it through words 8-)

    Trying once more:

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    ^ CRUDE

    Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

    Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

    Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

    I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo :p

    Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    BEHAVE YOURSELVES!!!
    :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,923Chief of Staff
    am747 wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

    Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

    I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo :p

    Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look ;)

    Oh I've looked...and you've failed -{
    YNWA 97
  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    Agent Purple wrote:
    I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

    Here's my guess:

    1) Connery
    2) Craig
    3) Dalton
    4) Lazenby
    5) Moore
    6) Brosnan

    This is the 2nd time I've seen you make assumptions about how another member would rank the bonds. I'm just wondering what you're hoping to accomplish by doing so. Do you feel you're pointing something specific out about what type of fan they are?
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    Theundeadkennedy wrote:
    Agent Purple wrote:
    I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

    Here's my guess:

    1) Connery
    2) Craig
    3) Dalton
    4) Lazenby
    5) Moore
    6) Brosnan

    This is the 2nd time I've seen you make assumptions about how another member would rank the bonds. I'm just wondering what you're hoping to accomplish by doing so. Do you feel you're pointing something specific out about what type of fan they are?

    so you're answering his post with assumptions, too? :))
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  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    I was asking a direct question actually. 8-)
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    I can say that (based on the Pm's), all that it is, is that AP is genuinely interested in other people's opinions on the Bond films. A fact, that's refreshing to read about and good! so if I may say so, his intentions are strictly honorable (SC'swords though).
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    " Hey there's no i in Justice League !" :)). ( Big Bang Theory)

    At this special time of year. I like to think we can take others dreams, opinions
    assumptions and put them with our own. In a very special and beautiful kind
    of way. In a Universal Bond of love, compassion and brotherhood. I believe new
    Bond fans are the future treat them well and let them lead the way. Show them all
    The beauty they possess inside.
    Group hug anyone ? :D
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  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    That's fair.

    In the spirit of the season, group hugs for anyone and everyone {[]
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    am747 wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

    Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

    I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo :p

    Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look ;)

    Oh I've looked...and you've failed -{

    "Not from where I m standing"
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    HatThrowingHenchman wrote:
    I can say that (based on the Pm's), all that it is, is that AP is genuinely interested in other people's opinions on the Bond films. A fact, that's refreshing to read about and good! so if I may say so, his intentions are strictly honorable (SC'swords though).

    Yeah, HTH gets it. I find other people's Bond tastes interesting.

    It does make for fun research.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    On topic, GE rocks mostly, and in no small part because it was done on the cheap (as Bond films go).
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    On topic, GE rocks mostly, and in no small part because it was done on the cheap (as Bond films go).

    Was it? I read it was the first 007 movie with computer special effects, not sure if they save you money or quite the opposite...
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I believe it was also the last one to use the late Derek Meddings' miniatures?...so a bit of the past along with the first of the future.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    I believe it was also the last one to use the late Derek Meddings' miniatures?...so a bit of the past along with the first of the future.

    Yes it was, and they looked fantastic.

    5qGQhDr.jpg

    Then the GoldenEye satellite was made with a computer, and that looked really awful. I forgot how bad it looked until a co-worker who watched it recently pointed it out to me since I hadn't watched GoldenEye in years. Today, that could easily be done well, but 20 years ago it was a struggle.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    One thing I like about Goldeneye is the blend of CGI and Derek Medding's model work.

    But some of the CGI does look quite bad, like the trail from the missiles sent up from the chopper...
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Well, it was the 90s. Back then, CGI wasn't used the same way it's used now.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Agent Purple wrote:
    Well, it was the 90s. Back then, CGI wasn't used the same way it's used now.

    Jurassic Park came out in 1993, Goldeneye came out in 1995

    Mind you we were years away from the truly awful cgi ie the Tidal wave
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Dang, I can't beat that Jurassic Park card. :#

    You won that round broad.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Agent Purple wrote:
    Dang, I can't beat that Jurassic Park card. :#

    You won that round broad.

    To be honest the effects in Goldeneye aren't too bad :)
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 7,372MI6 Agent
    Wow! This is the first time such a response has been initiated from one of my reviews - GE obviously has passionate supporters and detractors. For the record, like AP, I enjoy reading other AJBer's points of view and those views are always respected by myself even if I don't happen to agree with them. I'm looking forward to the response to my TND review which I hope to watch later tonight. A very merry Christmas to all -{ -{ -{
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    edited December 2015
    I would not criticize GE on the technical front as I would like to believe that it did the best it could in the allocated budget and resources at that time

    I rank it at the bottom mainly for its crude elements and laborious watching experience - PTS starts off well and the title sequence is nice too. Post title sequence it opens up nicely with the AM-Ferrari chase, and then it starts going downhill:

    * Onatopp - 'I like it straight up with a twist'
    * That horrible scene b/w Onatopp and Admiral on the yatch
    * Onatopp comical approach to the original pilots of Tiger
    * Yawn inducing intro of Natalya and Boris
    * Onatopp comically shoots everyone at that base in Russia
    * Wade gives a peek of his bottom and Muffy
    * Natalya messages Boris
    * Unrefined singing at the club
    * Crude fight sequence b/w Onatopp and Bond at the indoor pool
    * Blah blah b/w Bond and Trevelyan
    * Natalya shouts horribly in the Tiger helicopter to awaken Bond (mute button required)
    * Yawn inducing dialog b/w Bond and Natalya inside the Russian base
    * Blah blah in the train
    * Wade takes the car away
    * Bond and Natalya fly in the TMWTGG fashion to find the lair
    * Lair hidden like in YOLT
    * Onatopp's death :s
    * ....
    * And the worst ending sequence of the franchise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_I7ys1R64

    :#
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    how would you have introduced Natalya and Boris then?
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    HatThrowingHenchman wrote:
    how would you have introduced Natalya and Boris then?

    I would not have made a film with such characters ;)
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