When did the 'modern era' start?

Jarvio

Some people talk about the 'modern era' of bond films. When, in your opinion, do you think this started? Did it start from Goldeneye? Or from the DC films? If Dalton did a 3rd and 4th film in the early 90's, would they be considered 'modern'?

Absolutely_Cart

1990 onward, from the end of the Cold War, is how most historians would define the modern era.

I'd go along with that and say Goldeneye was the first modern Bond film. Of course, if Dalton released Goldeneye in 1991, it may have been a little less modern than an entirely new actor taking the role, but it probably still would be considered modern.

The Cold War was the basis for the Bond series, and the fall of the Berlin wall pretty much represented a new paradigm shift for Bond. Though, of course, when the next major world event happens, 1990-today will no longer be modern.

Moore Than

I tend to go with Goldeneye. Many of the original old guard behind the camera were gone. Only good old Desmond Llewellyn remained in front of the camera. Classic elements remained but were updated for the 90's, so had a different look/feel to them.

Strangeways

Totally agree. Up until Goldeneye the cast and crew were all mainly the same. With the end of the Cold War, Goldeneye marked a change in direction as well as a change of cast and crew.

AlphaOmegaSin

I suppose you could say that the modern Era started with Dalton.

Number24

I think "modern" is a too unclear word to judge. I'd rather say GE was the first post-Cold war Bond and CR the first post-9/11 Bond. DAD was after 9/11, but CR was the first with a different tone affected by 9/11.

Virgil37

I'd say there are three eras. First, 1962-1974. Second, 1977-1989. Third, 1995-present. So the "modern era" would be from Brosnan onwards.

Thunderpussy

For me it starts with CR as all the rest use the Bond formula.
CR was the first to reinvent the rules. -{

Virgil37

I agree with TP that so much changed since 2006. I'd add a fourth era, 2006-now, with the Brosnan years being the third (the "dark ages" 1995-2002)

Firemass

Each era was very "modern" for its time.

There's been a lot of post-modern modernism since Dr. No

Jarvio

I wonder how long it will be until the Brosnan films are no longer considered modern. If you think about it, 1995 was a pretty long time ago now.

raptors_887

I think it depends on your age. Some 12 year old kid would find GoldenEye super old and outdated.

Moore Than

Jarvio wrote:

I wonder how long it will be until the Brosnan films are no longer considered modern.

Probably when Daniel Craig steps down and is replaced by Bond #7. The Pierce Brosnan films will then be regarded as either the last of the "classic era", or the bridge between the "classic era" and the new "modern era" (2006 onwards)?

Higgins

Imo, the step to CR was not a moderization - quite the opposite.
I am hearing the first time the term " modern eta" but if i am asked, I'd say TSWLM was a bold step into a different direction - from spy movies to super-hero and super-villain with a super-budget.

MilleniumForce

I think it started with CR. As it was the reboot of the series.

Dutchfinger

Jarvio wrote:

I wonder how long it will be until the Brosnan films are no longer considered modern. If you think about it, 1995 was a pretty long time ago now.

Good point, I've been thinking the same thing. I would be in the camp that would say that GE is the start of the modern era. Main reason being the ending of the cold war and such.

But, have you noticed that GE hasn't aged half as good than some Bond movies that are three decades older?
Especially when computers in GE are shown, you end up thinking 'damn this movie is aged.." while the silly controle pannels and moving electric doors of the sixties have aged a lot better...