Casino Royale revisited

HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
edited December 2014 in The James Bond Films
Had the chance to watch CR again over the holidays and here are some thoughts:

The PTS and the Madagaskar scenes are pure joy!
YKNM reaches the top of my favorites now it climbed higher on each listening. IMO, the song is pure sex!

Caterina Murino is absolutely gorgeous - I wish that I've seen more and longer from her!
The Bahamas sequences are phantastic captured - feeds the escapism factor!
I still find the bodyworld setting and the Miami airport scenes a bit pointless but still enjoyable

Arnolds score is still great and the YKNM bits are very Barry-esque (forgive me Barbel) placed.

EVA Green annoys me more and more. Some of her extravagant stylings are simply over the top for her character and her face.
The only time that I find her adorable are the scenes in the bathroom sequences.
While she's more or less ok in terms of looks, I don't like the way that she's speaking. It's not her voice, it's her facial expression when she speaks.

I find Bond's behavior with her mostly immature and not sarcastic like it's clearly meant to be. The falling-in love part, which is so beautifully written in the novel does not convince me at all and peaks in a negative way in the armor - little finger crap talk. Bond should not shift into "childish" in his behavior with women and I see it sometimes in their banter.

The too short car case is beautifully staged and the torture scene is the best reference possible to Fleming.

Mads Mikkelsen is a phantastic villain, what a great and cool actor!

Mr White to me is not really dangerous, this would have been done much better by Waltz or my dreamcast Ulrich Mattes

Now to Craig: He visually bulked up a lot - a bit too much in my opinion and gives a phantastic debut!
But seeing him in SF, I must say: Man has he aged in those 8 years!!!!!

All in all the movie is still pure enjoyment - a bit of a backdraw was Eva Green to me, but I know that many will disagree with me here.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Bahamas is also my fave section.

    The Bodyworld part always bothered me since Dimitrius and Bond have a knife fight in the middle of the room in front of the public (though subtle its hardly realistic and would have preferred they did this in a quiet corner or restrooms). Kind of seemed flawed!!

    Agree Eva Green looks best when in bathroom / less slap on her face :D
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agree with most of Higgins's post {[] except I liked Eva Green. I love YKMN
    It and LALD are fantastic songs. That's why it's my #2 Bond film. {[]
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,541MI6 Agent
    Agree with most of Higgins's post {[] except I liked Eva Green. I love YKMN.

    Ditto.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,934Chief of Staff
    Eva Green just oozes sex appeal ! Her voice alone can do things that make ME blush ;% :x

    Unlike our Germanic trainer-challenged friend, I like the 'I have no armour left' scene...it's a good piece of writing...
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Eva Green just oozes sex appeal

    .......

    I like the 'I have no armour left' scene...it's a good piece of writing...


    Why does that not surprise me the slightest? :p :p :p
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,934Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Eva Green just oozes sex appeal

    .......

    I like the 'I have no armour left' scene...it's a good piece of writing...


    Why does that not surprise me the slightest? :p :p :p

    Because you know I'm right -{ :p
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    No! ?
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    …soooo the big question is naturally is CR great due to the flemming book ???
    Markus you are spot on about a lot of things… and that DC is agining fast – is Sepctre is last ??? og are we ending in a RM AWTAK kind of area ??? a man too old for the role
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Craig will most likely do 1 more after SPECTRE.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Craig will most likely do 1 more after SPECTRE.

    I suspect he'll do two more. They will get him back with the money. A man can age very quickly in those eight years.

    Casino Royale is pretty flawless to me.
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Craig will most likely do 1 more after SPECTRE.

    I suspect he'll do two more. They will get him back with the money. A man can age very quickly in those eight years.

    If Daniel Craig does appear in two more after SPECTRE, he will comfortably break Roger Moore's record of thirteen years from official announcement to retirement. Who would have thought that in those turbulent days and weeks after Craig was officially announced as Bond #6?

    My opinion. Most likely (but not definite) one more after SPECTRE.
    Moore Not Less 4371 posts (2002 - 2007) Moore Than (2012 - 2016)
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    Are we supposed to discuss CR in the actual CR thread? I hope not.

    Like most hard core fans, for years and years I was desperate to see an Eon version of CR. Then when it happened in 2006 I was not disappointed. It is just such a class act from start to finish. I can't believe that it is a coincidence to have the best Bond of the modern era based solely on a Fleming novel. For me, the highlights all come in the Bahamas, but my favourite single scene is on the Pendalino as I think I have said before.

    The Pendalino scene inspired me to take my then partner to Paris on the Eurostar in business class. I was expecting the Bondian standard of service. How wrong I was. Even in business class it felt like the least glamorous way to travel. Only Babs and Mickey could make train travel ooze sophistication! Love it.

    Other highlights are...

    All the Bahamas scenes - really want to stay at The Ocean Club sometime!
    Pendalino.
    Venice.
    Grand Hotel.
    Car chase, although I agree it is too short.
    The suspense generated in the casino scenes. Never been replicated in any eon film.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Eva Green is one of the many highlights of CR.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,934Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    No! ?

    And I have better taste in watches too :D

    And trainers :007)
    YNWA 97
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,541MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    No! ?

    And I have better taste in watches too :D

    And trainers :007)

    Who doesn't :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Should we move this to the Pub? :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    WW3, Britain VS Germany again but on a less deadily Scale -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,103Chief of Staff
    Off-topic and off-colour posts removed.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    There is a lot more (trainers) off-topic posts.
    Can we get Sir Miles banned? :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,103Chief of Staff
    :)) Oddly enough, he did say something involving the words "Higgins" and "banned" quite recently.... but he didn't cover 2 pages with f-words.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    For sure he said " one thing is for sure: As a reward for keeping the good trainers taste up here, Higgins will never be banned - that's hammered in stone".

    ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    "Off topic and Off colour remarks removed "
    Bloody hell !, and I wasn't involved. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    And Diplomacy is restored -{ :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    "Off topic and Off colour remarks removed "
    Bloody hell !, and I wasn't involved. :))

    Yeah you missed all the fun :#
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,934Chief of Staff
    You see all the trouble your horrible trainers and watches caused ? :))
    YNWA 97
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Casino Royale remains Daniel Craig's triumphant Bond, and if he had done no other, would alone have cemented it as a powerhouse in the franchise. It is an excellent film -- easily in the top 10 Bond films. Is it perfect? No. The biggest problem is the romance is given short shrift -- there's enough to understand it but not as much to actually feel it. Ten more minutes, with some genuine feeling and memorable lines, would have made it work even better.

    Daniel Craig completely revitalizes James Bond as a character. I wish, though, that he'd been given more opportunity to both emote and use humor -- his Bond is quite cold, and as I've commented before, almost autistic in his narrow range of emotions. (This is not just a Casino Royale specific issue -- he continues to play Bond that way in the next two films.) He is very much Bond-like in the first card playing scene against Dimitrious. He seems relaxed and confident, but that's really the last time we see him that way until, arguably, the dinner scene right before Vesper is kidnapped.

    Some lines have a modern hokiness to them -- the bit about "you've got your armor on," for instance, sounds like something from a freshman writing class or maybe a comic book. It's not the kind of thing anyone over 30 would say, I hope. There also aren't the sorts of meaty lines one might find in more classic Bond films. But then the writing has been the weakest element of any Bond film for at least 30 years.

    Action scenes, in some cases, are derivative. The airport truck chase is a lot like the truck chase from Raiders of the Lost Ark, for instance. I wish we'd seen more parkour -- the editing of that scene often implies more than it shows.

    This is really about it, and given the total, amounts to relatively little.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,173MI6 Agent
    CR is my favorite Bond film and it's the chemistry between Craig and Eva Green that elevates it to the sublime. My only two complaints are 1. the business about if you lose you'll have helped fund terrorism. Would've been better that it was something specific like the terrorists were going to use the money to buy a nuke and blow up London, so if you lose you'll be responsible for blowing up London; and 2. the third act drags. We don't need to see quite so much that they're in love. If the audience isn't going to buy it by then, they never will.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Eva Green is the best acting and best looking Bond girl ever, though im a little biased :))
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I guess that we need a new term in the AJB glossary: Greenboys :D
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I guess that we need a new term in the AJB glossary: Greenboys :D
    ill be their leader :007)
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