Details we've noticed on BluRay that we've never noticed before...

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    4k won't happen on Blu Ray.

    A 4k 90 minutes movie will need 100GB of space - you can't get that on Blu Ray :v
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yet ! ;)
    Sure they'll call it something, Bluray + or something but, we'll all
    Be ordering the Bonds on it, when it comes . :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    In fact in the future I don't think we'll be able to buy a hard copy
    Of a film or music. The company will make more money having
    us rent it every time we wish to view. They'll all be kept in the " cloud"
    For us to download as required for a small fee. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    4k won't happen on Blu Ray.

    A 4k 90 minutes movie will need 100GB of space - you can't get that on Blu Ray :v

    Someone has come up with a way of getting a ridiculous amount of storage on DVDs now...I read about it about a month ago...and you didn't have to compress the image or sound...I'm sure it worked out to roughly 100 films per disc...

    I don't see 4k taking off as nobody will film/broadcast it...

    Don't all DVD/bluray players upscale now ? Obviously you need a full hd TV to start with...but I see very little difference between my Bond DVDs and blurays....
    YNWA 97
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,327MI6 Agent
    edited January 2015
    Think I read the Japanese are already working on 4Ks successor!!

    Im not clued up on anything above blu-ray so whats the story with 4K? I mean say it did for instance take off in theory - would that require EON restoring and rescanning the entire series again at a higher resolution? If I remember rightly did they not only scan the first few films at super duper resolution and then went down a few levels for the rest of the series, if so why? Cost? Storage?
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Bluray works via HDMI cables
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,327MI6 Agent
    stag wrote:
    I have a largish Sony TV (about 42") which was bought new last year. It is Full HD. The only problem I can see is that There are no spare scart points. It looks as I would have to buy one of those stand alone scart 'junction box' things too.

    Does BluRay work via HMDI instead though? Although I think I have no spare ports for that either, can you buy HDMI 'junction boxes' too?

    You don't get HD thru scart only HDMI!
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    There should be at least one HDMI port, sometimes the do
    Seem to hide them.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:


    I don't see 4k taking off as nobody will film/broadcast it...

    Don't all DVD/bluray players upscale now ? Obviously you need a full hd TV to start with...but I see very little difference between my Bond DVDs and blurays....

    Well, you did not see vehicles driving over 10 mph as well :))
    Doesn't mean that it did not happen.... :))

    As for the storage on DVD: Not possible without data compression. But maybe your boxbrownie can?

    The difference Full HD(1080) to 4k is like DVD to Blu Ray.

    If you can't see it- I am not surprised about your personal preference for Dalton.

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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Should of gone to Specsavers Higgins :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I like how Higgins thinks Technological Advances have stopped. ;)
    He's a modern "Amish", will only use Tec from 2014 ! :)) :p
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    edited January 2015
    stag wrote:
    Dunno if it's relevant to post here but could someone please explain the difference between BluRay & DVD in terms of picture quality? If I was to buy one could I play DVDs in it & would I see an improvement?
    You can get a player very cheap on eBay, yes it will play DVDs, and the picture quality on Blu Ray is amazing IF you have a 720 or 1080 screen. If you have a regular old TV set the difference won't be nearly as great. Regular DVDs will look better if your present DVD player is not an 'upscaling' one.

    One thing though, sometimes the detail is TOO great. In Superman: The Movie I could see the black curtain behind the Krypton explosion... in YOLT I could see EVERY animation plate in the volcano eruption... :s
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Don't all DVD/bluray players upscale now ? Obviously you need a full hd TV to start with...but I see very little difference between my Bond DVDs and blurays....
    If you see very little difference then either your display is small (or old) or you're not using HDMI to connect the BR player...
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Bluray has completely destroyed some classic Films that were not supposed to be touched by it. The Evil Dead for instance :#
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, bring back the old 16mm movies ( advertised in the back pages
    Of some gentlemen's magazines ) ;)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Bluray has completely destroyed some classic Films that were not supposed to be touched by it. The Evil Dead for instance :#
    Yes, some movies I will not get in BR for sure.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    yep, we don't see movies sharply :D
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Don't all DVD/bluray players upscale now ? Obviously you need a full hd TV to start with...but I see very little difference between my Bond DVDs and blurays....
    If you see very little difference then either your display is small (or old) or you're not using HDMI to connect the BR player...

    My 'display' is a 50 inch plasma and my HDMI cables work just fine...perhaps there is little difference because my 'set up' is so bloody good in the first place ;) :))
    YNWA 97
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    As for the storage on DVD: Not possible without data compression.

    Seriously, it's been done - and without compression....it was reported on by the BBC...go look for it -{
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Don't all DVD/bluray players upscale now ? Obviously you need a full hd TV to start with...but I see very little difference between my Bond DVDs and blurays....
    If you see very little difference then either your display is small (or old) or you're not using HDMI to connect the BR player...

    My 'display' is a 50 inch plasma and my HDMI cables work just fine...perhaps there is little difference because my 'set up' is so bloody good in the first place ;) :))

    Plasma is so 90s and 50 inch is for the kitchen! Get a larger one to enjoy movies :p
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    Plasma still the best out there B-) And it's none of that Sharp rubbish either :p
    YNWA 97
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    My 'display' is a 50 inch plasma and my HDMI cables work just fine...perhaps there is little difference because my 'set up' is so bloody good in the first place ;) :))
    50 inch? Well then, no wonder. When you spread the pixels out that wide discs look like videotape anyway. :))
    Okay, seriously though, I have a little old 26 inch 720 screen and I see a world of difference in most of the Blu rays I've gotten (except for Goldfinger, that just looks 'noticeably' better). And not just in the definition, in the colour as well. But then my Son says he doesn't see any big deal of a difference. It may just come down to how your brain is stimulated. Some people are visual creatures (me definitely) and others respond better to sound or words, etc. It's possible DVD offers you all the visual information your brain needs, and anything more is merely overflow.

    Dr. chrisisall
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Plasma still the best out there B-)

    You say the same about horse carriages :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    It may just come down to how your brain is stimulated. Some people are visual creatures (me definitely) and others respond better to sound or words, etc. It's possible DVD offers you all the visual information your brain needs, and anything more is merely overflow.

    Dr. chrisisall

    Yep, and your brain obviously responds best to tears :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Plasma still the best out there B-)

    You say the same about horse carriages :D
    LOL, well it's my understanding (I used to sell these things) that while plasma gives the truest blacks, LED/LCD gives a much brighter picture overall. I was never overly impressed with plasma or I'd have gotten one with my discount. Likewise, with the screen size I chose, I felt 1080 wasn't necessary. But 1080 is crucial in bigger screens like 50".
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Yep, and your brain obviously responds best to tears :D
    I see the world through misty-eye coloured glasses.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    It's possible DVD offers you all the visual information your brain needs, and anything more is merely overflow.

    Dr. chrisisall

    I did say upscaled picture - you did read that ?

    Bluray on a 26 inch screen ? :)) Sorry, that just doesn't work at all...
    YNWA 97
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I did say upscaled picture - you did read that ?
    Yeah, my BR player upscales too, to the point that my Blade Runner DVD looks awesome & I feel no need to upgrade. But that was an unusually nice transfer. As nice as the Ultimate Bonds are, they weren't THAT good.
    Bluray on a 26 inch screen ? :)) Sorry, that just doesn't work at all...
    Oh lemme tell ya at that size with that clarity it sometimes feels like I'm lookin' through a window. Iron Man is particularly mind-blowing.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,937Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I did say upscaled picture - you did read that ?
    Yeah, my BR player upscales too, to the point that my Blade Runner DVD looks awesome & I feel no need to upgrade. But that was an unusually nice transfer. As nice as the Ultimate Bonds are, they weren't THAT good.
    Bluray on a 26 inch screen ? :)) Sorry, that just doesn't work at all...
    Oh lemme tell ya at that size with that clarity it sometimes feels like I'm lookin' through a window. Iron Man is particularly mind-blowing.

    As long as you are happy....but you need a screen in excess of 32inches to get a true bluray image...anything less and it is a complete waste, the screen can't handle it...buy a bigger TV and enjoy 'true' bluray -{
    YNWA 97
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    .buy a bigger TV and enjoy 'true' bluray -{
    I'm at a point with this screen here where I'm seeing all manner of skin anomalies in close ups. I have precisely as much of the BR image as I want, thank you very much! :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Bluray on a 26 inch screen ? :)) Sorry, that just doesn't work at all...
    Sir Miles wrote:
    As long as you are happy....but you need a screen in excess of 32inches to get a true bluray image...anything less and it is a complete waste, the screen can't handle it...buy a bigger TV and enjoy 'true' bluray -{

    As with everything modern in terms of the last 2 centuries - Sir Miles is wrong! :D

    If he'd have any basic knowledge in physics or optics, he'd know that screen sizes highly depend on the viewing distance.
    A 26' Full HD screen can reveal more detail from 1 meter than a 50' screen from 5 meters.

    So the universal statement that a certain screen size is necessary for full enjoyment of HD is simply rubbish
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    So, Sir Miles - anything under 32 inch is complete waste?
    How do you explain that these:
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    are working phantastic with panels much smaller than 32 inch?
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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