How did people respond to Moore as Bond?

DevilMayCare007

Just a quick question
How did people respond to him after LALD ?

chrisisall

I thought he was good in TMWTGG, but in TSWLM he began to show silly. Back then.

Firemass

chrisisall wrote:

I thought he was good in TMWTGG, but in TSWLM he began to show silly. Back then.

Can you give a couple examples? The only wisecracks I recall is when JAWS is attacking the van.

Moore Than

Judging by the box office of Live And Let Die, and the critics reaction, I'd say the response to Roger Moore as Bond was generally pretty positive. No doubt there were those who did not like him even then, probably because he was not Sean Connery. Personally, I was delighted with Roger as Bond.

chrisisall

Firemass wrote:

chrisisall wrote:

I thought he was good in TMWTGG, but in TSWLM he began to show silly. Back then.

Can you give a couple examples? The only wisecracks I recall is when JAWS is attacking the van.

It wasn't so much his lines as his overall attitude, tongue pressing into cheek and and all... :007)

Thunderpussy

I agree with Moore Than {[]
LALD, was a huge hit, Moore was already known and loved across the world
So it had many already built in audiences. Bond fans + Moore Fans. )
Also it was a very good film. -{

DevilMayCare007

Thanks everyone ! )

Higgins

As far as I remember, Moore's superstar status took off with TSWLM, the 2nd (after TB) of the Mega-Bonds, and right before the next big hit, Moonraker.

People loved the unique combination with humor, thrill, pretty ladies, huge sets, exotic locations and big explosions until he's gotten a bit too old with AVTAK.

With the exception of the german James Bond Fan Club (who where heavily sponsored by Mc Clory for NSNA) - bobody seriously doubted him in the role! He was the perfect guy steering the franchise thru the 70s and 80s {[]

Higgins

chrisisall wrote:

I thought he was good in TMWTGG, but in TSWLM he began to show silly. Back then.

How anyone could have found TSWLM silly back then is beyond me.
You're the first one with that kind of complaint - but it does not surprise me

M 'n' M

The snobby film critics and the Connery obsessives didn't like him. Everyone else did and he was accepted as Bond. And particularly to those of us growing up with him he WAS bond - a point proved when comparing octopussy to nsna

chrisisall

Higgins wrote:

chrisisall wrote:

I thought he was good in TMWTGG, but in TSWLM he began to show silly. Back then.

How anyone could have found TSWLM silly back then is beyond me.
You're the first one with that kind of complaint - but it does not surprise me

TSWLM was entertaining enough, but my friends & I didn't appreciate the Lawrence Of Arabia music, Jaws dropping a boulder on his foot, Roger dropping a fish out of the Lotus window, Barbara Bach, etc... then MR came out & made TSWLM look a bit better . In 1981 we made a fictitious movie trailer called "Your Eyes Only Live Twice" in which Rog was replaced by Connery after Connery was offered "More money than he's seen in his entire life". ) Little did we know then....

Higgins

You and your friends have been certainly a very rate lot :v

Gassy Man

For a lot of audiences in the 1970s, Moore was Bond. Growing up as a child then, I saw little distinction between Sean Connery and him. He is as effective as Bond in his own way, which is to say if you want a lighter Bond, he's excellent taken for what he is.

But he should have hung it up after For Your Eyes Only. While he could still play the consummate gentleman, the physical expectations for the character became increasingly ludicrous. Worse, the productions became more empty and repetitive.

Blackleiter

I did not respond well to the change. And it wasn't merely because he wasn't Connery (after all, I didn't mind Lazenby in the role), or because I was some blindly obsessive Connery fan (although I am a big fan, no doubt). It's simply because I did not think Moore was a good Bond. His light-hearted, non-threatening manner just didn't fit the concept of Bond that I had come to enjoy. And although I remained a huge fan of the Bond films and I made it a point of seeing all of Moore's films when they were released in the hopes that he would grow on me, he never did. I recognize that the general public, and maybe even the majority of die-hard Bond fans, were pleased when Roger Moore took over the role, I didn't get as excited about Bond movies anymore until Dalton took over.

superado

Since I did not see Bond on the screen until TSWLM, while realizing that based on dated-looking reruns on TV that Connery was firmly in the past, Moore slipped in quite easily, no lube needed. I never understood then why my uncle kept saying that Moore walked like a girl. But, wow, seeing the comments of the older folks here ) I am surprised by the expressed experiences, though they do make sense when looking at all the factors. TP said it best, that Moore's fanbase already existed way before Bond, but I'd like to add that maybe the general mellow vibes of fashion and social tastes that would welcome Disco in the 70's helped make Moore palatable to people who've had enough of the rough-hewn fare of the 60's.

chrisisall

superado wrote:

maybe the general mellow vibes of fashion and social tastes that would welcome Disco in the 70's helped make Moore palatable to people who've had enough of the rough-hewn fare of the 60's.

I was a fan because of The Saint, but after TMWTGG I started wishing that we'd get a new guy. By MR I was begging God. 8-)

Thunderpussy

Superado wrote :
" Moore slipped in quite easily, no lube needed ". )
I'm glad the grand tradition of innuendo, is alive and well. ! {[]

chrisisall

Thunderpussy wrote:

Superado wrote :
" Moore slipped in quite easily, no lube needed ". )
I'm glad the grand tradition of innuendo, is alive and well. ! {[]

Disgusting. )

Let me hasten to add that I appreciate Moore now a HECKUVA lot more than I did in my 20-30's.

DevilMayCare007

TSWLM was Moore best outing as Bond, I've just watch LALD and TMWTGG and he reminded of Sean. I'm glad he was different in TSWLM

Absolutely_Cart

From all that I've heard, Moore's tenure as Bond was well-received. It began well and ended well, despite the slops in between.

Moore Than

I doubt many would agree that Roger Moore's tenure ended well. Some say he should never have been Bond, others that he should have quit somewhere between Live And Let Die and For Your Eyes Only. In my opinion (in terms of timing and reputation), after Octopussy. I seriously doubt he would have appeared in OP had Sean Connery not returned in Never Say Never Again. As much as I may have wanted Lewis Collins or Ian Ogilvy, it would have been more likely James Brolin as Bond. So, maybe things turned out OK. Just a shame for Timothy Dalton that the legal issues robbed him (and us) of a couple of Bond films.

James Suzuki

Moore Than wrote:

I doubt many would agree that Roger Moore's tenure ended well. Some say he should never have been Bond, others that he should have quit somewhere between Live And Let Die and For Your Eyes Only. In my opinion (in terms of timing and reputation), after Octopussy. I seriously doubt he would have appeared in OP had Sean Connery not returned in Never Say Never Again. As much as I may have wanted Lewis Collins or Ian Ogilvy, it would have been more likely James Brolin as Bond. So, maybe things turned out OK. Just a shame for Timothy Dalton that the legal issues robbed him (and us) of a couple of Bond films.

We cannot undo the past. So we have to enjoy the film's that have been made. I've always thought that the Moore films were the best at creating a world of their own. Escapist fun. He was the Bond I wanted to be as I was growing up. Moore's Bond was your best friend when you got lonely. He was your father in many ways. And he was the man you inspired to be.
Face it. As much as Dalton and Craig are AWESOME. They are so troubled and have gone through so much.
Brosnan, as much as I like his films, his character was never fully fleshed out. Moore is and ever will be my favourite James Bond. Now, after falling in love with Fleming books and watching dark and gritty Bond, I've only grown to love Moore more.
Besides. As much as we can dream about other Bond actors taking their place. The Bond franchise was dying after YOLT. IMHO, Moore saved the franchise more then Brosnan or Craig did. He stopped it being a retro, cult series from the 60's and turned it into the phenomenon we know today. If they picked another Connery copy, and tried to follow down the serious OHMSS path (as much as I love OHMSS) it would of killed the series. So raise a glass. -{
Roger Moore IS James Bond.

Thunderpussy

I agree,Moore did OP as Cubby didn't want a new actor having to run against
Connery in NSNA. Leading to me thinking that AVTAK, was a thank you from
The producers to Moore , so that he'd have the record for the longest running
Bond, as a snub to Connery.
On a side note. I was listening to a radio talk show, and they got round to
Discussing Bond films, all four people chose AVTAK as their favourite Bond film.
Perhaps the general public has a very different view on the Bonds than us fans. )

Higgins

James Suzuki wrote:

The Bond franchise was dying after YOLT. IMHO, Moore saved the franchise more then Brosnan or Craig did. He stopped it being a retro, cult series from the 60's and turned it into the phenomenon we know today. If they picked another Connery copy, and tried to follow down the serious OHMSS path (as much as I love OHMSS) it would of killed the series. So raise a glass. -{
Roger Moore IS James Bond.

Applause and Standing Ovations!!!!
The man is right!

Moore Than

James Suzuki wrote:

Moore Than wrote:

I doubt many would agree that Roger Moore's tenure ended well. Some say he should never have been Bond, others that he should have quit somewhere between Live And Let Die and For Your Eyes Only. In my opinion (in terms of timing and reputation), after Octopussy. I seriously doubt he would have appeared in OP had Sean Connery not returned in Never Say Never Again. As much as I may have wanted Lewis Collins or Ian Ogilvy, it would have been more likely James Brolin as Bond. So, maybe things turned out OK. Just a shame for Timothy Dalton that the legal issues robbed him (and us) of a couple of Bond films.

We cannot undo the past. So we have to enjoy the film's that have been made. I've always thought that the Moore films were the best at creating a world of their own. Escapist fun. He was the Bond I wanted to be as I was growing up. Moore's Bond was your best friend when you got lonely. He was your father in many ways. And he was the man you inspired to be.
Face it. As much as Dalton and Craig are AWESOME. They are so troubled and have gone through so much.
Brosnan, as much as I like his films, his character was never fully fleshed out. Moore is and ever will be my favourite James Bond. Now, after falling in love with Fleming books and watching dark and gritty Bond, I've only grown to love Moore more.
Besides. As much as we can dream about other Bond actors taking their place. The Bond franchise was dying after YOLT. IMHO, Moore saved the franchise more then Brosnan or Craig did. He stopped it being a retro, cult series from the 60's and turned it into the phenomenon we know today. If they picked another Connery copy, and tried to follow down the serious OHMSS path (as much as I love OHMSS) it would of killed the series. So raise a glass. -{
Roger Moore IS James Bond.

I agree with much of what you said, but I never saw Roger as my father in any way.

Everyone appreciates the key role Sean Connery played in establishing the franchise. Roger played an equally key role in continuing the franchise, which is perhaps not appreciated by everyone. He proved there was life after Connery, that a different interpretation of Bond could be equally successful. That paved the way for Dalton and those that followed. But Roger did not "save the series" on his own, Cubby Broccoli and the crew deserve as much appreciation. When it mattered most, Live And Let Die, The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, they produced the goods. Failure of either of those three films would have likely meant the series going into a fairly long hibernation, if not actually ended.

James Suzuki

Moore Than wrote:

James Suzuki wrote:

Moore Than wrote:

I doubt many would agree that Roger Moore's tenure ended well. Some say he should never have been Bond, others that he should have quit somewhere between Live And Let Die and For Your Eyes Only. In my opinion (in terms of timing and reputation), after Octopussy. I seriously doubt he would have appeared in OP had Sean Connery not returned in Never Say Never Again. As much as I may have wanted Lewis Collins or Ian Ogilvy, it would have been more likely James Brolin as Bond. So, maybe things turned out OK. Just a shame for Timothy Dalton that the legal issues robbed him (and us) of a couple of Bond films.

We cannot undo the past. So we have to enjoy the film's that have been made. I've always thought that the Moore films were the best at creating a world of their own. Escapist fun. He was the Bond I wanted to be as I was growing up. Moore's Bond was your best friend when you got lonely. He was your father in many ways. And he was the man you inspired to be.
Face it. As much as Dalton and Craig are AWESOME. They are so troubled and have gone through so much.
Brosnan, as much as I like his films, his character was never fully fleshed out. Moore is and ever will be my favourite James Bond. Now, after falling in love with Fleming books and watching dark and gritty Bond, I've only grown to love Moore more.
Besides. As much as we can dream about other Bond actors taking their place. The Bond franchise was dying after YOLT. IMHO, Moore saved the franchise more then Brosnan or Craig did. He stopped it being a retro, cult series from the 60's and turned it into the phenomenon we know today. If they picked another Connery copy, and tried to follow down the serious OHMSS path (as much as I love OHMSS) it would of killed the series. So raise a glass. -{
Roger Moore IS James Bond.

I agree with much of what you said, but I never saw Roger as my father in any way.

Everyone appreciates the key role Sean Connery played in establishing the franchise. Roger played an equally key role in continuing the franchise, which is perhaps not appreciated by everyone. He proved there was life after Connery, that a different interpretation of Bond could be equally successful. That paved the way for Dalton and those that followed. But Roger did not "save the series" on his own, Cubby Broccoli and the crew deserve as much appreciation. When it mattered most, Live And Let Die, The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, they produced the goods. Failure of either of those three films would have likely meant the series going into a fairly long hibernation, if not actually ended.

Of course. The team behind moore as well. -{ z
And i guess that father comment comes from many fond memories of me watching the films Moore films with my dad.

AlphaOmegaSin

Moore did a fine Job as Bond -{

Thunderpussy

I have no problem with Moore as Bond, the films were already changing tone,
no matter who played Bond. Sure AVTAK, he shouldn't have done simply because
he looked a little too old, but apart from that he did a great job ! {[]

Blackleiter

I feel so alone.

But that's okay, I can take it!

Thunderpussy

Yoy're not alone BL, just wrong ! {:) )

Blackleiter

Thunderpussy wrote:

Yoy're not alone BL, just wrong ! {:) )

Me, wrong???? Never! You youngsters just don't understand! ) ) )