"And how do you survive?"
"I take pleasure in great beauty."
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
I quite like her, there are certainly other BGs I prefer to her, but I think she's a likeable BG.
Wait, this was already discussed.
Oh well...
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
I like her quite a lot. I know it's hard to take her job seriously - but she's so hot :x
She's very attractive for sure.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
I've said it elsewhere but if someone as basically stupid as Ben Carson can be a neurosurgeon, then someone as basically gorgeous as Christmas Jones can be a nuclear physicist. )
Revisted TWINE after a long time. This appears to be Brosnan's best performances till that point. He looks settled in the role. The PTS kicks off the film nicely. Background score is good too. Marceau does the job.
The film has some good moments but overall feels unexciting compared to many of the other Bond films .... Both the film and Dr. Christmas Jones are strong contenders for the title of the worst Bond film and the worst BG respectively
Revisted TWINE after a long time. This appears to be Brosnan's best performances till that point. He looks settled in the role. The PTS kicks off the film nicely. Background score is good too. Marceau does the job.
The film has some good moments but overall feels unexciting compared to many of the other Bond films .... Both the film and Dr. Christmas Jones are strong contenders for the title of the worst Bond film and the worst BG respectively
I think the film is quite different because it almost plays out more like a drama than an action thriller. The action is sort of "Inserted Here" as the case with many of the Brosnan films - for me, TWINE's psychological battles eventually won by Bond make this one of the best for me.
You're right, Pierce is very comfortable in this and IMO it's his best performance.
The World Is Not Enough is the Bond family motto though - and I think it ties in nicely with the oil plot line.
It's plausible to understand his dislike of TWINE.
I love it though, although I can't deny that I'm a Brosnan fanboy.
We all have our biases.
Sophie Marceu is my main issue with the movie. I'm not a big fan of Elektra.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Pros
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[*]One of the series' best PTS[/*]
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[*]The darker, more realistic approach to the story[/*]
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[*]Brosnan's darker, more emotional performance as Bond[/*]
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[*]The M as prisoner scenes[/*]
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[*]Sophie Marceu's portrayal of Elektra[/*]
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[*]Elektra King as a fake-ally enemy and how she uses Bond against himself.[/*]
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[*]Desmond Llewellyn's send off as Q[/*]
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Cons
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[*]The script seems schizophrenic, leaping from drama to action with little reasoning.[/*]
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[*]Too much mundane action.[/*]
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[*]Denise Richards, although visually appealing, is unbelievable as a nuclear physicist.[/*]
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[*]Robert Carlyle is criminally underused[/*]
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[*]The character of Renard is not very threatening or believable[/*]
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[*]The schizophrenic pace, which makes the story harder to understand[/*]
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[*]Bland locations[/*]
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Overall, although I want to like the film, I find it very off-putting because of it's schizophrenic pace. Does it want to be an action film or a drama? I would be happy with either, but it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. I would have liked them to have spent more time on it or included the extra 30 minutes that was cut because test audiences declared it "too long". I think the extra running time would have made it a much better, more cohesive film. I hope the extra 30 minutes will resurface on a Bluray release some day.
Pros
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[*]One of the series' best PTS[/*]
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[list=*]
[*]The darker, more realistic approach to the story[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Brosnan's darker, more emotional performance as Bond[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]The M as prisoner scenes[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Sophie Marceu's portrayal of Elektra[/*]
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[list=*]
[*]Elektra King as a fake-ally enemy and how she uses Bond against himself.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Desmond Llewellyn's send off as Q[/*]
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Cons
[list=*]
[*]The script seems schizophrenic, leaping from drama to action with little reasoning.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Too much mundane action.[/*]
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[list=*]
[*]Denise Richards, although visually appealing, is unbelievable as a nuclear physicist.[/*]
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[*]Robert Carlyle is criminally underused[/*]
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[list=*]
[*]The character of Renard is not very threatening or believable[/*]
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[*]The schizophrenic pace, which makes the story harder to understand[/*]
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[*]Bland locations[/*]
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Overall, although I want to like the film, I find it very off-putting because of it's schizophrenic pace. Does it want to be an action film or a drama? I would be happy with either, but it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. I would have liked them to have spent more time on it or included the extra 30 minutes that was cut because test audiences declared it "too long". I think the extra running time would have made it a much better, more cohesive film. I hope the extra 30 minutes will resurface on a Bluray release some day.
Interesting to see someone who has TWINE as a least fave Brosnan Era Bond film.
It seems most pick either DAD or TND as their least fave Brosnan Era BF. I think I've never seen GE get that position.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Overall, although I want to like the film, I find it very off-putting because of it's schizophrenic pace. Does it want to be an action film or a drama? I would be happy with either, but it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be.
Agree. The film is confused. TWINE's strong points are not strong enough to overshadow its weak points .... Spectre in a way suffers from similar dilemma but its strong parts are very strong to overshadow the weak points
One can categorize films such as DN and FRWL as ones that balance action, drama and espionage superbly
This might be controversial, but I watched this today and it's Imo the best of the Brosnan films, PB is brilliant as Bond in this and it's got a great cast.
This might be controversial, but I watched this today and it's Imo the best of the Brosnan films, PB is brilliant as Bond in this and it's got a great cast.
This might be controversial, but I watched this today and it's Imo the best of the Brosnan films, PB is brilliant as Bond in this and it's got a great cast.
A top film.
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Well, TND is MY go-to Brozzer, but man, TWINE be fine! {[]
This might be controversial, but I watched this today and it's Imo the best of the Brosnan films, PB is brilliant as Bond in this and it's got a great cast.
A top film.
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Yahoo!
Well, TND is MY go-to Brozzer, but man, TWINE be fine! {[]
The thing with Brosnan is, that GE, TND and TWINE are all movies that get mentioned as "favourite Brosnan" movie a lot by us die-hard fans of the franchise.
I believe GoldenEye is one of the most loved Bond movies in general.
This shows that Brosnan has made three out of four movies that can be considered to have a strong fan base.
And don't forget that DAD, just for instance, on Rotten Tomatoes isn't at the bottom, not even in the bottom 3.
For me GoldenEye is the best with Tomorrow Never Dies almost as good. Both are in my Top 10. And all those in my Top 10 are considered to be bloody great by me actually even my Top 12, ha!
Ok, it's a TWINE thread, so I'll say something about it ) it's not one of my favourites because I didn't like the twist of Elektra becoming the baddie, M being stupid and Renard being a total bore.
Ok, it's a TWINE thread, so I'll say something about it ) it's not one of my favourites because I didn't like the twist of Elektra becoming the baddie, M being stupid and Renard being a total bore.
I liked the twist a lot. The other two, yeah, I guess. But to ME a Bond film works or doesn't mainly because of BOND. And Pierce delivered the goods every time. Fook HIM if he thinks he didn't. )
This might be controversial, but I watched this today and it's Imo the best of the Brosnan films, PB is brilliant as Bond in this and it's got a great cast.
A top film.
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It's certainly not controversial with me!
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I think Carlyle gets the job done as Renard, although as a BH, he doesn't touch Red Grant, Oddjob, or Jaws.
For me, he's an alright henchman, but certainly not a great one.
I do like that he's generally immune to pain though.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Comments
Halle Berry is the worst Bond girl ever! Her acting was terrible. Infact she makes Denise Richards seem like Meryl Streep.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
And I approve of Denise Richards. -{
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
"I take pleasure in great beauty."
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
I quite like her, there are certainly other BGs I prefer to her, but I think she's a likeable BG.
Wait, this was already discussed.
Oh well...
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
I think she's one of the least likeable!
"Better make that two."
She's very attractive for sure.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
The film has some good moments but overall feels unexciting compared to many of the other Bond films .... Both the film and Dr. Christmas Jones are strong contenders for the title of the worst Bond film and the worst BG respectively
I think the film is quite different because it almost plays out more like a drama than an action thriller. The action is sort of "Inserted Here" as the case with many of the Brosnan films - for me, TWINE's psychological battles eventually won by Bond make this one of the best for me.
You're right, Pierce is very comfortable in this and IMO it's his best performance.
The World Is Not Enough is the Bond family motto though - and I think it ties in nicely with the oil plot line.
"Better make that two."
It's plausible to understand his dislike of TWINE.
I love it though, although I can't deny that I'm a Brosnan fanboy.
We all have our biases.
Sophie Marceu is my main issue with the movie. I'm not a big fan of Elektra.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
[list=*]
[*]One of the series' best PTS[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]The darker, more realistic approach to the story[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Brosnan's darker, more emotional performance as Bond[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]The M as prisoner scenes[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Sophie Marceu's portrayal of Elektra[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Elektra King as a fake-ally enemy and how she uses Bond against himself.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Desmond Llewellyn's send off as Q[/*]
[/list]
Cons
[list=*]
[*]The script seems schizophrenic, leaping from drama to action with little reasoning.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Too much mundane action.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Denise Richards, although visually appealing, is unbelievable as a nuclear physicist.[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Robert Carlyle is criminally underused[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]The character of Renard is not very threatening or believable[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]The schizophrenic pace, which makes the story harder to understand[/*]
[/list]
[list=*]
[*]Bland locations[/*]
[/list]
Overall, although I want to like the film, I find it very off-putting because of it's schizophrenic pace. Does it want to be an action film or a drama? I would be happy with either, but it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. I would have liked them to have spent more time on it or included the extra 30 minutes that was cut because test audiences declared it "too long". I think the extra running time would have made it a much better, more cohesive film. I hope the extra 30 minutes will resurface on a Bluray release some day.
8. TMwtGG 9. AVtaK 10. TSWLM 11. SF 12. LtK 13. TND 14. YOLT
15. NTtD 16. MR 17. LaLD 18. GF 19. SP 20. DN 21. TB
22. TWiNE 23. DAD 24. QoS 25. DaF
Interesting to see someone who has TWINE as a least fave Brosnan Era Bond film.
It seems most pick either DAD or TND as their least fave Brosnan Era BF. I think I've never seen GE get that position.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Agree. The film is confused. TWINE's strong points are not strong enough to overshadow its weak points .... Spectre in a way suffers from similar dilemma but its strong parts are very strong to overshadow the weak points
One can categorize films such as DN and FRWL as ones that balance action, drama and espionage superbly
Oh well its 23 out of 24
A top film.
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"Better make that two."
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
The thing with Brosnan is, that GE, TND and TWINE are all movies that get mentioned as "favourite Brosnan" movie a lot by us die-hard fans of the franchise.
I believe GoldenEye is one of the most loved Bond movies in general.
This shows that Brosnan has made three out of four movies that can be considered to have a strong fan base.
And don't forget that DAD, just for instance, on Rotten Tomatoes isn't at the bottom, not even in the bottom 3.
For me GoldenEye is the best with Tomorrow Never Dies almost as good. Both are in my Top 10. And all those in my Top 10 are considered to be bloody great by me
Ok, it's a TWINE thread, so I'll say something about it
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
It's certainly not controversial with me!
Though it's actually Elektra King that turns out to be the main villain in the end, with Renard merely her pawn.
For me, he's an alright henchman, but certainly not a great one.
I do like that he's generally immune to pain though.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Until the law of diminishing returns kicks in