Pros and Cons: The Man with the Golden Gun

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  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,339MI6 Agent
    "The way in which Herve Villechaize's midget identity is 'othered' as comic / weird in the film is insensitive"

    You dont have to go far back to '74 re : mocking of little people , the Austin Powers films also mocked little people , more or less
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,997MI6 Agent
    edited January 2020
    "The way in which Herve Villechaize's midget identity is 'othered' as comic / weird in the film is insensitive"

    You dont have to go far back to '74 re : mocking of little people , the Austin Powers films also mocked little people , more or less

    That's true, sadly. And the word "midget" used in the screenplay of TMWTGG is now widely considered offensive. I should have phrased my own point differently. The way in which Herve Villechaize's identity as a Little Person is 'othered' as comic/weird in the film is insensitive.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Shady Tree wrote:
    "The way in which Herve Villechaize's midget identity is 'othered' as comic / weird in the film is insensitive"

    You dont have to go far back to '74 re : mocking of little people , the Austin Powers films also mocked little people , more or less

    That's true, sadly. And the word "midget" used in the screenplay of TMWTGG is now widely considered offensive. I should have phrased my own point differently. The way in which Herve Villechaize's identity as a Little Person is 'othered' as comic/weird in the film is insensitive.

    Hervé Villechaize preferred the term "midget". Despite it being a pejorative term (particularly today, but I believe it was always widely offensive), I wouldn't hold using the term against the film if it's what the actor preferred.
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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,997MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Stepping down as ... Dracula in the early seventies, Christopher Lee had been as much a Bond-villain-in-waiting as he'd ever been.

    'Dracula A.D. 1972' aside, Christopher Lee, the future Scaramanga, shares a scene in 'Horror Express' (1972) with 1.5 former Bond villains. (The 0.5 is Robert Rietty, who'd dubbed Largo in TB and who, in 'Horror Express', dubs mad monk Pujardov.) It's a joy to watch Telly Savalas (Blofeld in OHMSS) improvise as Captain Kazan, a bullying Cossack who turns against fellow passengers Pujardov and Lee's character, Professor Saxton. The very different acting styles of Lee and Savalas are shown in entertaining contrast. So that's 2.5 Bond villains sparring in the same carriage aboard the 'Horror Express'!
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,806Chief of Staff
    {[] Good choice. "Horror Express" is a flawed but fascinating film, with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee doing their usual thing opposite Telly Savalas. The SFX could have been better, as is common with such films, but there's a good story in there.
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,339MI6 Agent
    I think HE is one of the greatest horror films of all time , no joke {[]
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    After rewatch, an 8/10.

    My criticisms:

    - The martial arts school scene (why not just torture Bond or something like that; plus it doesn't help that he can escape it easily)

    - By my count, Goodnight shows she's not quite clever 3 times ("...green rolls?", the scene with the buttons and the solar machine, and that she was unaware of the fact that the pools had to be maintained at absolute zero even though a big sign said something about that)

    However, I still quite enjoyed the film, and I think Moore is better in it than in L&LD. Great score too.
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    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    By my count, Goodnight shows she's not quite clever 3 times ("...green rolls?",

    Huh? She actually was being helpful in that situation. She knew they were courtesy cars for the Peninsula Hotel and was enjoying her moment of seeing Bond all flustered.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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