I officially have a new worst Bond & Bond film...

75vette

Having rewatched all of the Bond films over the past two weeks (except for The World Is Not Enough, which for some reason will not play on my laptop. I even bought another copy at a used book shop last week and it won't play either (no clue why), I officially have a new worst Bond and Bond film.

Congratulations, Mr. Dalton. The truth is, I wanted to like him in spite of his chip-on-the-shoulder attitude toward all things Bond, but I literally could not find a single redeeming factor in his portrayal of Bond. I tried. I failed. (No offense intended to fans of Mr. Dalton)

As for my new worst Bond film, Licence to Kill now takes that prize, surpassing my former least favorite, Octopussy. The acting, woodenness of every single scene, dialogue, stunts, girls, locations, cars, (feel free to insert any and every other thing associated with the film here), etc. Though I've never cared for it, it had been a couple of years since I last watched it. Gosh, it was more painful than I remember or thought possible. And all this coming on the heels of watching a geriatric Moore in Octopussy and Connery in Never Say Never Again.

All this to say, does everyone's least favorite Bond sync with their least favorite Bond film? Would enjoy hearing everyone's worst/worst.

Now, if you will pardon me, I must seriously contemplate repurposing my LTK CD as a beverage coaster...

walther p99

Roger Moore and his films are the worst for me, will never own his bond films.

AlphaOmegaSin

I think your being a bit harsh on Tim, but that's your Opinion though

75vette

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

I think your being a bit harsh on Tim, but that's your Opinion though

Perhaps...nope! Seriously, I think he fared better before DC came on the scene but ever since CR I just have trouble watching his two contributions.

I read somewhere on here that a few people really like his portrayal. I need to go back and reread the whys and such

AlphaOmegaSin

He's always been my favorite Actor to portray the Character -{ Many here like his Films because he was more in line with the Books.

75vette

Do you like one of his two better than the other? I think I made it through TLD better than I did LTK.

AlphaOmegaSin

I hold both Films on the same Level -{

Higgins

both of his films are equally crap, imo TLD is a bit weepier and in LTK we have at least the lovely Carey Lowell and someone who came close to playing a villain

75vette

walther p99 wrote:

Roger Moore and his films are the worst for me, will never own his bond films.

I definitely like his earlier ones more than his later ones. Until this weekend, I think Octopussy was my least favorite film.

FYEO was the first Bond film I saw in a theater when I was a senior in high school, so that period of Moore has withstood the test of time with me.

75vette

Higgins wrote:

both of his films are equally crap, imo TLD is a bit weepier and in LTK we have at least the lovely Carey Lowell and someone who came close to playing a villain

Hahaha! This is true! Is his acting the same in other films? I've not watched him in any non-Bond films. Recommendations?

AlphaOmegaSin

The Rocketeer -{ It's mainly worth watching for Jennifer Connelly though

75vette

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

The Rocketeer -{ It's mainly worth watching for Jennifer Connelly though

Hahaha...I will check that out...on both counts!

Moore Than

Perhaps he was too intense and not relaxed enough, in some scenes overacted and/or overreacted, and did not have the same charm or charisma as Sean Connery and Roger Moore. Having said that, I really do enjoy Timothy Dalton's portrayal of 007. He brought something new to the role, the contrast between the six actors portrayals has been one of the series strengths, in my opinion.

And I really do enjoy Dalton's two films, neither of them are among my least favourite's. I give the edge to Licence To Kill, due mainly to Franz Sanchez, Felix Leiter, Pam Bouvier, and the tanker sequence.

Sir Miles

75vette wrote:

I read somewhere on here that a few people really like his portrayal. I need to go back and reread the whys and such

Have you read the books ?

For contrast, which are your favourite films ?

75vette

Sir Miles wrote:

75vette wrote:

I read somewhere on here that a few people really like his portrayal. I need to go back and reread the whys and such

Have you read the books ?

For contrast, which are your favourite films ?

Yes, have read all of the Fleming novels (many times each, actually) and about 1/3 of the ones following him. Just started Boyd's Solo last night. I prefer Fleming's books to the films, though I feel DC has gone a long way in bringing the Bond of Fleming's novels to the screen, character wise.

I'm really liking DC's portrayal of Bond. I think his three films are among the best. My top 5 would have to be - CR, DN, TB, QOS, and OHMSS. If I had to stretch that to a top 10, I would add - SF, GF, TSWLM, FRWL, and FYEO.

75vette

Moore Than wrote:

Perhaps he was too intense and not relaxed enough, in some scenes overacted and/or overreacted, and did not have the same charm or charisma as Sean Connery and Roger Moore. Having said that, I really do enjoy Timothy Dalton's portrayal of 007. He brought something new to the role, the contrast between the six actors portrayals has been one of the series strengths, in my opinion.

And I really do enjoy Dalton's two films, neither of them are among my least favourite's. I give the edge to Licence To Kill, due mainly to Franz Sanchez, Felix Leiter, Pam Bouvier, and the tanker sequence.

I thought Sanchez was a redeeming factor in LTK. He reminded me of some of the earlier villains from the Connery era.

AlphaOmegaSin

Have you read any of the Gardner Novels? He wrote the Novelization for LTK.

75vette

Yes, have read 9 of his (the first 7 and a couple of others), though not LTK. I liked them for the most part.

Thunderpussy

Nothing wrong with not liking Dalton. we all have our own personal preferences
Count yourself lucky you only have two films to avoid. ) imagine if you disliked
Roger Moore !

AlphaOmegaSin

Your part of the Misty Eyed Club 75vette -{ (Higgins will induct you later) )

75vette

Thunderpussy wrote:

Nothing wrong with not liking Dalton. we all have our own personal preferences
Count yourself lucky you only have two films to avoid. ) imagine if you disliked
Roger Moore !

) ) ) Indeed, a silver lining!

75vette

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

Your part of the Misty Eyed Club 75vette -{ (Higgins will induct you later) )

Afraid you might be right Hopefully he will teach me the secret handshake...or do we simply have to be able to tear up on demand?

AlphaOmegaSin

There's a Shake, but it doesn't involve Hands )

75vette

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

There's a Shake, but it doesn't involve Hands )

Hahaha...just lovely

broadshoulder

75vette wrote:

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

There's a Shake, but it doesn't involve Hands )

Hahaha...just lovely

Daltons the best in my book.

However, I can't stick Brosnan - so I sympathise

Absolutely_Cart

I don't have a least favorite Bond, so Lazenby by default (but OHMSS was soo good!).

I really liked Dalton. He portrayed the anger, and frustration of being a man on a dangerous stressful job. I think the older movies have sort of glamorized Bond as a superhero who is perfect, sexy and saves the world. But I just find Dalton's take on Bond much more honest and cathartic. Connery was stoic about everything and Moore had a cavalier attitude toward things, but Dalton just didn't take crap from anyone.

75vette

Absolutely_Cart wrote:

I don't have a least favorite Bond, so Lazenby by default (but OHMSS was soo good!).

I really liked Dalton. He portrayed the anger, and frustration of being a man on a dangerous stressful job. I think the older movies have sort of glamorized Bond as a superhero who is perfect, sexy and saves the world. But I just find Dalton's take on Bond much more honest and cathartic. Connery was stoic about everything and Moore had a cavalier attitude toward things, but Dalton just didn't take crap from anyone.

I liked Dalton better before Craig came on the scene for all of the reasons you mention, but I think Craig does a superior job at portraying the Bond from the Fleming Novels. So now I don't really have a category for Dalton as he doesn't fit into the Connery, Moore, or Lazenby categories and Craig is so much better (imho) that I can no longer take him serious in that category either.

I'm beginning to believe I just shouldn't have watched LTK or TLD in the same marathon as all of the others...maybe that would have preserved my opinion of Dalton

75vette

Or maybe if he would just sign one of my Bond photos I could see fit to become my old lenient self again

Awesomeshizz

I disagree, 100% there is no way it's the worst, or among the worst, it's among the best for sure, though I like Octopussy also quite a bit

Jag

The movies reflect their times. They are the best the producers could come up with at the time. In 10-15 years from now, this forum will be full of new threads discussing how the Craig era was the worst for Bond movies, and a new actor (probably with long hair and facial hair) will be all the rage for taking us closer to "the real Bond".

broadshoulder

Jag wrote:

The movies reflect their times. They are the best the producers could come up with at the time. In 10-15 years from now, this forum will be full of new threads discussing how the Craig era was the worst for Bond movies,

Somehow I dont think he will..

Jag wrote:

Tand a new actor (probably with long hair and facial hair) will be all the rage for taking us closer to "the real Bond".

Only if the Broccolis lose control. I see a Bond with 'long hair' being laughed off the screen