James Bond vs Ethan Hunt

chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
in General James Bond Chat
Is there one (or more) Mission: Impossible movie that rates well against the Bond movies for you? Personally, all 4 of them are better than many Bonds IMO, but cracking my top five? M:I 2 would be just after TND (#3), but I think that's the only one. And I see many similarities in M:I 2 & TND come to think of it...

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to discuss, compare & contrast the two franchises. :D
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    M: is more of your straight up Hollywood Blockbuster Franchise. Which is funny because the Television Series it's based on is far different and more in line with Bond -{
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    I like M:I1 as I felt it has a good espionage thriller feel to it. Love the scenes in Prague and London. Tom Cruise looks very good throughout. Good supporting cast.

    I was so dissapointed by M:I2. Really not a fan of John Woo and all that slow motion c**p. Thandie Newton is very pleasing on the eye but I just find her annoying in this film, along with all the repetitive doe eyed looks between Nyah and Ethan.

    M:I3 and 4 were better in my opinion and I'm looking forward to 5 :)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    The Red Kind wrote:
    I like M:I1 as I felt it has a good espionage thriller feel to it. Love the scenes in Prague and London. Tom Cruise looks very good throughout. Good supporting cast.

    I was so dissapointed by M:I2. Really not a fan of John Woo and all that slow motion c**p. Thandie Newton is very pleasing on the eye but I just find her annoying in this film, along with all the repetitive doe eyed looks between Nyah and Ethan.

    M:I3 and 4 were better in my opinion and I'm looking forward to 5 :)
    Interesting to read your opinions on Mission: Impossible, but now can you compare them (favourably or unfavourably) to the Bond films?
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    M:I Was very good
    M:2 Was not a bad Film, but it was bland and repetitive.
    M:3 Was alright, but the Story was a bit daft.
    M:4 Was the best so far.

    I'm really looking forward to the new Film. I would say that the Films (And the Television Series) have been inspired by the Bond Franchise. What Action/Espionage Film hasn't since GF?
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    Great thread, chrisisall! -{

    IMO TND and MI:2 are the closest. The look and feel are very similar, with some great stunts and snappy dialogue.

    MI:1 has more of an early Connery, FRWL espionage-type feel to it. The plot and acting are great (doesn't TC look young in it though!) courtesy of probably the best cast in the series.

    I enjoyed some of MI:3 but felt the whole rabbit's foot plot device was a Hitchcock- maguffin and a bit annoying, so I'd say it's the equivalent of the maguffins in TSWLM or FYEO (tracking device and ATAK respectively). Using Ethan's wife to make it personal is a nice touch, so there are elements of the Craig films IMO which have also made the recent plots personal.

    MI:4 is probably my favourite to date, the level of humour, the action set pieces and the plot are all spot on. The scenes in the Burj Al-Khalifa are genuinely nail biting. So I'm gonna go with Goldeneye, for its humour and stunts, crossed with OHMSS for the tension. :007)
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I read somewhere that Cast of the original Television Series hated the First Film when it came out.
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    chrisisall wrote:
    The Red Kind wrote:
    I like M:I1 as I felt it has a good espionage thriller feel to it. Love the scenes in Prague and London. Tom Cruise looks very good throughout. Good supporting cast.

    I was so dissapointed by M:I2. Really not a fan of John Woo and all that slow motion c**p. Thandie Newton is very pleasing on the eye but I just find her annoying in this film, along with all the repetitive doe eyed looks between Nyah and Ethan.

    M:I3 and 4 were better in my opinion and I'm looking forward to 5 :)
    Interesting to read your opinions on Mission: Impossible, but now can you compare them (favourably or unfavourably) to the Bond films?

    :)) Oh yeah, forgot about that bit!

    I agree that they are very Hollywood blockbuster type films and probably have more free rein than Bond. (More often than not Bond does have to stick to a certain recipe) I would say TND compares more than any other Bond film. I think M:I1 can hold its own against GE and I remember watching it at the cinema a year after GE, thinking this is great and refreshing.
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    I read somewhere that Cast of the original Television Series hated the First Film when it came out.

    Being a fan of the original series I disliked what they did to Jim Phelps in the first film and have yet to watch any of the others. Though I did watch a clip recently of Tom Cruise performing an aerial stunt for the new film. Not particularly a fan of Cruise but I admire him for doing that, and for the way he appears to give time and respect to his fans.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    I can't tell them apart. I feel the same about the Bourne films.

    They have been trying to replicate an American 007 since in like Flint.
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    M:I1 is a full on spy thriller. A team working together, we don't discover the villain until near the end, all good stuff.

    M:I2 is like a bond film; Hunt is working more on his own in this one, and I think is similar to TWINE: a few good action scenes, but ultimately incredibly boring.

    M:I3 is a mix of Bond and M:I1, but is ultimately disappointing.

    M:I4 is the only one I feel you could take Hunt out, put Bond in, and it still be a good Bond film.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    MilleniumForce wrote:

    M:I2 is like a bond film; Hunt is working more on his own in this one, and I think is similar to TWINE: a few good action scenes, but ultimately incredibly boring.
    See, I don't get that if TND is your # 6 you find M:I 2 boring. Same kind of adventure-stopping-the-evil-guy vibe IMO... ?:)
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  • hot crossed bondhot crossed bond at the barPosts: 181MI6 Agent
    funny you bring this up...I am doing a M:I marathon! I have enjoyed them all, with M:I2 being my least fav. 3 and 4 are the best for sheer entertainment value...for me. I am about to start watching M:I4 soon...I have only seen it once before. the question of bond or hunt...DC v.s TC...Bond eats Hunt for breakfast! ;)
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  • YouknowthenameYouknowthename Carver Media GroupPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    See, I don't get that if TND is your # 6 you find M:I 2 boring. Same kind of adventure-stopping-the-evil-guy vibe IMO... ?:)

    Personally, M:I 2 is my least favorite. Too much fooling around with rubber masks, probably to cover up a fairly weak script. Which does match TND, come to think of it :D
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    MI:2 had a rather abrasive Soundtrack :#
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I enjoyed MI:1 and MI:4 , didn't think much of 2 & 3.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Youknowthename wrote:
    Personally, M:I 2 is my least favorite. Too much fooling around with rubber masks, probably to cover up a fairly weak script. Which does match TND, come to think of it :D
    X-(
    Why you I oughta---!!!
    :D
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    MI:4 had some brilliant Set Peices.
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  • hot crossed bondhot crossed bond at the barPosts: 181MI6 Agent
    after watching them all...3 ,1, 4, 2. but I will take the M:I series over anything PB, and TD did as bond any day!!!
    I'm motivated by my duty
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    MI:4 had some brilliant Set Peices.
    In very many ways 4 was really the best, but 2 was the most lushly photographed, had Dougray Scott as a villain, and some of the snappiest dialogue ever.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    You can't beat the Scene where Ethan is climbing the Tower with those suction Gloves though -{
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    hot crossed bond wrote:
    I will take the M:I series over anything PB, and TD did as bond any day!!!
    I see you're at the bar again. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    The NOC list plot of M:I 1 is naggingly familiar
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    The NOC list plot of M:I 1 is naggingly familiar

    :)) True
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    the best thing about MI:2 was Tom Cruise's hair and Hans Zimmers music.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    hot crossed bond wrote:
    I will take the M:I series over anything PB, and TD did as bond any day!!!
    I see you're at the bar again. :))

    Obviously! :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Where else would you find BL? :))
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    Where else would you find BL? :))

    Seeing as how I don't drink, not in a bar unless I own the joint! :))
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  • hot crossed bondhot crossed bond at the barPosts: 181MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    hot crossed bond wrote:
    I will take the M:I series over anything PB, and TD did as bond any day!!!
    I see you're at the bar again. :))

    Obviously! :))
    don't worry! there is a kiddie table in the back so you two can't make your list about lists on which bond makes your willies go ape! :)) 8-)
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    hot crossed bond wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    I see you're at the bar again. :))

    Obviously! :))
    don't worry! there is a kiddie table in the back so you two can't make your list about lists on which bond makes your willies go ape! :)) 8-)

    "Bond makes your willies go ape"? Interesting. ;)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    walther p99 wrote:
    the best thing about MI:2 was Tom Cruise's hair and Hans Zimmers music.
    AND, the slow-mo! :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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