Hinx's Handgun - SPOILER

Gadget Meister

Surprised this hasn't been discussed yet, double barrelled semi auto handgun. Was playing with some of these recently at the SHOT Show in Vegas, but for the life of me I cannot remember the manufacturer, obviously not one of the run of the mill makers. Fully ambidextrous, twin triggers (due to legislated regulations I was told) but operating a single sear so that both chambers fire simultaneously (go figure). The twin mags make for a large grip so those with small hands need not apply.

MrZareba

It's been discussed in the Skyfall thread. It's an Arsenal Firearms AF-2011 A1 Dueller.

http://www.all4shooters.com/en/specials/trade-shows-2015/SHOT-show-2015/pistols/Arsenal-Firearms-AF2011-A1-Dueller-ifc-international-firearm-corporation/

Asp9mm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-DGaNmtA0

walther p99

whats the purpose of such a weapon?

minigeff

Hinx? Who the hell is hinx?

Asp9mm

walther p99 wrote:

whats the purpose of such a weapon?

To put a load of rounds down range in a short amount of time just from a small handgun. A double tap with one pull of the trigger. It's more a fun thing and a cool engineering concept. But I certainly wouldn't want to be shot at with one. That'd be scary.

MrZareba

I think that they want to show that Hinx is superior to Bond. Think about it - Bond has an 500bhp Aston, Hinx has a 700bhp Jag, Bond has his classic PPK, Hinx has this bad boy, Bond has a remarkable muscle tone but compared to Hinx he looks like a doll. Bautista also mentioned that Hinx is well dressed and intelligent, I think they want to make him Bond's equal in the organisation of Spectre - a first real match for Daniel Craig's Bond.

Lee John

MrZareba wrote:

I think that they want to show that Hinx is superior to Bond. Think about it - Bond has an 500bhp Aston, Hinx has a 700bhp Jag, Bond has his classic PPK, Hinx has this bad boy, Bond has a remarkable muscle tone but compared to Hinx he looks like a doll. Bautista also mentioned that Hinx is well dressed and intelligent, I think they want to make him Bond's equal in the organisation of Spectre - a first real match for Daniel Craig's Bond.

Well said.

Gadget Meister

Thanks Mr Zareba, my bad for not looking there {[]

Can't believe they didn't mention the connection, was talking to the guys in the booth for twenty minutes or so.

MrZareba

Gadget Meister wrote:

Thanks Mr Zareba, my bad for not looking there {[]

Can't believe they didn't mention the connection, was talking to the guys in the booth for twenty minutes or so.

Maybe they're not aware of it? Strange!

Unless the gun is made by Tom Ford and it's just a rip off.

Asp9mm

They probably didn't know. They could, and probably were imported by an agent, and not the production directly dealing with Arsenal Firearms. This happened during the Brozza years with the PAK P99's. Walther didn't deal direct and wouldn't have known they were being supplied for the films.

Tecolote

It'll be interesting to see if Hinx actually shoots the thing. I suspect a 2011 would be a bit more complicted to blank adapt than a regular .45.

Regards,

Tecolote

Asp9mm

I'd say it was easier. The problem is usually cycling. With lighter springs and twice the amount of force being used, it should help no end.

Gadget Meister

Something that has just struck me, and Jonathon you may have a view on this, what would happen if you got a stove pipe in one barrel, easily unnoticed with the second barrel firing normally and the recoil from the second barrel was sufficient to cycle the action, eject the spent stove pipe cartridge, and feed a fresh one from the affected magazine. On firing the subsequent rounds there must be a potential for an over pressure in the stove pipe barrel which would be somewhat hazardous, thoughts?

There was also a very nice line in side by side tactical semi auto shotguns at the show, really did look mean.

thespyboys11

minigeff wrote:

Hinx? Who the hell is hinx?

Jinx's brother? )

thespyboys11

walther p99 wrote:

whats the purpose of such a weapon?

To KILL you!
After all...You only shoot twice

Higgins

8-) one gun thread and the moron is all over it..... 8-)

ppw3o6r

Higgins wrote:

8-) one gun thread and the moron is all over it..... 8-)

Moron?...but I haven't replied to this yet

Higgins

I meant the other one

0073

That's a very nice gun...... TO POOP ON!!!! ) ) )

I hope he shoots laser guided thermonuclear warheads, in stead of just regular bullets! We all saw how underwhelming those depleted uranium projectiles were against Bond.

Asp9mm

Gadget Meister wrote:

Something that has just struck me, and Jonathon you may have a view on this, what would happen if you got a stove pipe in one barrel, easily unnoticed with the second barrel firing normally and the recoil from the second barrel was sufficient to cycle the action, eject the spent stove pipe cartridge, and feed a fresh one from the affected magazine. On firing the subsequent rounds there must be a potential for an over pressure in the stove pipe barrel which would be somewhat hazardous, thoughts?

There was also a very nice line in side by side tactical semi auto shotguns at the show, really did look mean.

The slide is one piece, as is the trigger assembly etc. So one stovepipe would block the whole thing. You can't shoot the barrels independently. The thing works just like a regular semi auto, but with two barrels firing at once. It looks like it has two triggers, but they are actually connected and work as one.

Higgins

The Domino Effect

He knows everything about gnus? Alright then Asp9mm, what's the air speed velocity of an unladen blue wildebeest?

MrZareba

Higgins knows everything about posting full size pictures, I don't know which one is better... )

Gadget Meister

The slide is one piece, as is the trigger assembly etc. So one stovepipe would block the whole thing. You can't shoot the barrels independently. The thing works just like a regular semi auto, but with two barrels firing at once. It looks like it has two triggers, but they are actually connected and work as one.

Yeah I know the action, see my first post (although contrary to your post the triggers are independant but operate a common sear), but if the stove pipe launched the round sufficiently down the barrel so as to leave room for another round to be chambered (and I've had that happen with a SIG Sauer 226, just lucky that I noticed the lack of recoil, lack of report ...... And I'd like to say a missing hole in the target but I'd be lying, so I treated it as a stoppage and field stripped to check) with the Arsenal you would still have the recoil & report, so you could easily miss the event until the next chambered round went off.

Asp9mm

I don't see how another round could be chambered as the shell causing the stovepipe would stop the slide from moving fully forward to do so ?:)

Gadget Meister

Apologies Jonathon, I've always known it (wrongly - Google is your friend) as a stove pipe, probably better known or described as a squib fire (first time I've heard that term) where the cartridge discharges without sufficient force and the round becomes stuck in the barrel but the case ejects as normal allowing the action to chamber the next cartridge - my bad, but the original question stands

thespyboys11

The Domino Effect wrote:

He knows everything about gnus? Alright then Asp9mm, what's the air speed velocity of an unladen blue wildebeest?

Asp9mm

Gadget Meister wrote:

Apologies Jonathon, I've always known it (wrongly - Google is your friend) as a stove pipe, probably better known or described as a squib fire (first time I've heard that term) where the cartridge discharges without sufficient force and the round becomes stuck in the barrel but the case ejects as normal allowing the action to chamber the next cartridge - my bad, but the original question stands

Aaah right I understand now. I wouldn't want that happening with this pistol. I think it would go BANG!! In all the wrong directions.

Gadget Meister

That was my conclusion as well, somewhat of a safety hazard.

sniperUK

Well this is what happend with an Enfield revolver