I'm starting to like Die Another Day....
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By all means, it's not a good Bond movie, but I just find it so enjoyable to watch. It's easy to watch, the CGI is so bad it's worth watching for a laugh, it has two good villains (Zao and Frost), the Vanquish is cool, the fencing scene is great and the car chase is so good. The cars are great in this, one of my favourites being the Ford Thunderbird, and it is a film I find myself watching quite often. Take out the idea of changing DNA, invisible car and the tsunami surfing and the bad CGI of the plane scene, and this film would be a bit higher on my list.
This is Brosnan's Moonraker - It's clearly just rehashing elements of previous Bond films, aand is incredibly stupid, but both are fun to watch.
BUT - Moonraker is a Moore film, so the silliness does not affect the film as much as it would if this was, say, a Connery film.
This is Brosnan's Moonraker - It's clearly just rehashing elements of previous Bond films, aand is incredibly stupid, but both are fun to watch.
BUT - Moonraker is a Moore film, so the silliness does not affect the film as much as it would if this was, say, a Connery film.
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It's gonna get it's time to shine. But for now, we're in the high-definition super-serious realism phase, and DAD has to lay low for a while.
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Which is this films biggest problem...the first half is great but the second half tends to spoil it all...hence I tend to switch off at that point...
Brosnan is very good in it. -{ and unlike some I think Toby Stephens was a great villain.
When he takes his shirt off at the start of the sword fight, he looks very muscular, if I'd
Been Bond at that point I'd have told him, I was only joking about the fight !
Too big a reliance on ( bad) CGI , but as with all Bonds it is entertaining, and is easy to
Watch.
Agreed 100%
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I would say Die Another Day is a mixed bag from start to finish. Some of the best scenes occurring in the second half, while some of the worst being in the first half.
This is a popular cliche that holds very little truth.
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I guess the film could have gone in a completely different direction at half way point but someone really did hit the turbo button!!!!
Im guessing the way the Brosnan films became progressively OTT it was the only outcome for this film and I suppose naturally the next film had nowhere to go but tone things back down (Casino Royale). Although it was a huge box office success, could Bond have handled another Brosnan film in this direction?? I dont think they had anywhere else to go but come back down to earth
Why does it hold little truth? They were two of the most outlandish Bond films. Both films prompted the series to go to a "back-to-basics" approach in the following films. They were each actor's forth Bond film. They were each actor's highest-grossing Bond film. Both films use elements from the Moonraker novel.
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Dear Barbel,
Sorry but you feel that all this DAD bashing is a "bandwagon". I am afraid those of us who don't like DAD feel like this.I have been a Bond fan since 1977 and never before had I come out the movies wishing they had stopped. The awfulness of DAD is there for all to see. The first shot is terrible and I truly believe the first half is as bad as the second half.
You know me - I tend to stick up for the lesser efforts since as DAF,MR,QoS but DAD defeated me. What would make a good documentary? The making of DAD? Where Tamahori went wrong? After seeing the film I was amazed by the films name and read good reviews in the newspapers.
I am sorry that you think we are "bandwagon jumping" but please allow us to express these views..
and also post views which contradict them. -{
Of course you can express your dislike of this or any other movie here! Post away on how you feel about DAD or whatever, however much it contradicts mine or anyone else's opinion.
I do feel that there has developed an automatic tendency to bash this film in whatever context turns up, and that this is often unfair. As I said earlier, it isn't a top 007 adventure but it isn't as dreadful as it's too frequently made out to be.
I personally enjoy the first half very much (well, ok, I could do without Madonna in any of her three jobs... all of them,.actually) and can see why people would have problems with the second part.
I also appreciate that the little bits of Fleming and earlier Bond movie lore will only be of interest to some but the filmmakers put them in for our benefit (eg, the book Bond picks up).
And what's wrong with the first shot? It's just a beach.
And the Film took Elements of the MR Novel as well.
The shooting of Bond through the barrel of a gun. He's such a good shot that he can destroy you through the barrel of a gun.
Also I will feel free to express my annoyance with this film - feel free to contradict me
but then as my signature says (bye the way)
CGI'ed on to him.
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Little-known fact - Madonna wasn't in DAD. Yep - CGI! )