Didn't Lazenby use one too in the raid of Pizz Gloria in OHMSS? But yes, with the Brosnan films it began to become more regular, already in Goldeneye actually. I agree it takes away from the Bond image, but I never was THAT disturbed by it. At the end of TND Bond and Wai Lin raid the stealth boat, were normally in the older movies a large army would drop in to help Bond, here he's on it's own. While it's still highly unlikely a man would survive that, atleast with machine guns it becomes a LITTLE bit more believe in a scenario like that. But there are several other instances in the Brosnan movies where a machine gun is a bit to much and becomes his signature. I never really thought about Bond shooting Mr. White with the assault rifle being a bad think, I'm probably as guilty as other audience members of finding that a badass scene...
Yes, Lazenby used a Sterling Submachine gun during the Piz Gloria battle, as did Draco's men. This same weapon was also by Roger Moore in The Spy Who Loved Me during the Liparus battle as well as many other classic James Bond movies, prior to weapons like the Uzi 9mm and the H&K MP5 series taking over in the world of automatic weapons.
As for the topic itself, I am okay with 007 picking up a sub-machine gun or an assault rifle on occasion. A gun is a tool, and covert operators like James Bond need the right tool for the job. The Walther PPK/P99 are both fine handguns but for bigger jobs an automatic weapon makes sense. In the novel of The Spy Who Loved Me, Bond mentions he used a Thompson sub-machine during his Canadian assignment because he needed something bigger than the Walther PPK for the raid.
Good catch on TSWLM novel there. Very well said too on the right tools for the job at hand and of course James Bond also used a Thompson sub-machine gun in Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun (1968) which Amis was very familiar with given his military role in WWII.
Not to mention the Winchester snipers rifle Fleming gives him in TLD, and the Savage 99F hunting rifle in FYEO.
Yes, I could not forget those either. Also don't forget that John Gardner gave him the ASP 9mm eventually and in both OP and Never Say Never Again James Bond used a Walther P5 pistol(Production on this gun, started in 1979 and ended in 1996) in 9mm. Also in some earlier script drafts of Licence To Kill (1989) Bond was to use the P5 again in the film instead of the PPK since the P5 was at the time of filming a state of the art pistol. For what ever reason, Dario ended up with it during the climax scene at the drug lab where he sticks it into Bond's back, before Bond disarms him.
Also in some earlier script drafts of Licence To Kill (1989) Bond was to use the P5 again in the film instead of the PPK since the P5 was at the time of filming a state of the art pistol. For what ever reason, Dario ended up with it during the climax scene at the drug lab where he sticks it into Bond's back, before Bond disarms him.
In For Special Services and Icebreaker, Bond also uses the Heckler and Koch VP70.
In Icebreaker he used the H&K P7 not the VP70.
One Weapon I forgot to mention was the pair of Sykes-Fairbairn Daggers he uses in FSS
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He uses the Fairbairn Sykes in quite a few of Gardners Bond books. Mentioned quite a lot in even more too. And let's not forget the other issued weapons he had such as the 16" ASP Baton, Ruger P85, Browning Hi Power and Browning HP pocket pistol too. Out of all the books, the best pistol Bond had was the P7. I liked the Ruger Blackhawk he kept in his car too. Class.
I know Asp9mm is a fan, but is the ASP9mm the dogs danglies as far as
Personal sidearms goes, or is there something better out there ?
It's a bit dated now. But the innovations and concepts that went into the design have become commonplace in most production pistols today. Before the ASP there weren't really any production compact larger bore pistols designed for quick draw from a concealed carry position.
When I first read DR NO in 1961, the average U.S. police officer carried a .38 revolver and 12 spare rounds of ammo.It was rare to need a long gun, but it did happen on both sides of the law. As to DR NO, in the climax of that novel Bond gets two Smith & Wesson .38s,"the regular model" and a "Remington" carbine( I presume Fleming meant the Military and Police .38 with a 4,5 or 6 inch barrel and an M1 or M2 select fire carbine, as he describes Bond as shooting at pursuing dogs by having "kept his finger on the trigger and sprayed bullets into the middle of them" so IMHO there's a literary precedent
for Bond to use "assault weapons". However, I was rather annoyed with the long, full auto bursts Bond let loose with using the HK416 in Skyfall;short bursts would have more suited to 007. In real life, Craig's Bond would be trained on handguns, rifles, and the full auto stuff, and be likely to run into situations dictating their use, and the movies are going to reflect that; hopefully,not at the sacrifice of a good story.
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Also in some earlier script drafts of Licence To Kill (1989) Bond was to use the P5 again in the film instead of the PPK since the P5 was at the time of filming a state of the art pistol. For what ever reason, Dario ended up with it during the climax scene at the drug lab where he sticks it into Bond's back, before Bond disarms him.
Bond was initially penned to use the P38K in LTK.
@ASP 9mm, that is right. I totally forgot about that since I did not have a copy of the Licence To Kill novelization handy at the moment. I do plan on getting one for my collection soon, since I am a huge fan of Timothy Dalton's take on James Bond, as I have mentioned before.
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Yes, I could not forget those either. Also don't forget that John Gardner gave him the ASP 9mm eventually and in both OP and Never Say Never Again James Bond used a Walther P5 pistol(Production on this gun, started in 1979 and ended in 1996) in 9mm. Also in some earlier script drafts of Licence To Kill (1989) Bond was to use the P5 again in the film instead of the PPK since the P5 was at the time of filming a state of the art pistol. For what ever reason, Dario ended up with it during the climax scene at the drug lab where he sticks it into Bond's back, before Bond disarms him.
In Icebreaker he used the H&K P7 not the VP70.
Bond was initially penned to use the P38K in LTK.
One Weapon I forgot to mention was the pair of Sykes-Fairbairn Daggers he uses in FSS
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No, it was his personal sidearm choice...
Personal sidearms goes, or is there something better out there ?
It's a bit dated now. But the innovations and concepts that went into the design have become commonplace in most production pistols today. Before the ASP there weren't really any production compact larger bore pistols designed for quick draw from a concealed carry position.
for Bond to use "assault weapons". However, I was rather annoyed with the long, full auto bursts Bond let loose with using the HK416 in Skyfall;short bursts would have more suited to 007. In real life, Craig's Bond would be trained on handguns, rifles, and the full auto stuff, and be likely to run into situations dictating their use, and the movies are going to reflect that; hopefully,not at the sacrifice of a good story.
Regards,
Tecolote
I think it returned in Never Send Flowers though.
It's been a while since I last read NSF, but I should give it a re-read -{
Yes, as you know I'm very fond of it.
@ASP 9mm, that is right. I totally forgot about that since I did not have a copy of the Licence To Kill novelization handy at the moment. I do plan on getting one for my collection soon, since I am a huge fan of Timothy Dalton's take on James Bond, as I have mentioned before.