Wow...so many like MR. Wasn't expecting that! It almost puts it in the 'films you dislike that most like' category!
It was the Bond film I most grew up with. It's the most kid-friendly of all Bond films, due to things like Jaws, fun action sequences and outspace, and Bond doesn't even carry a gun in it.
Not terribly keen on (but others seem to rate): Octopussy, The World Is Not Enough
I'm with you, 002- I like DAF (first Bond film I saw, back in '71, and hooked since). But I don't care so much for TWINE. And I'm not so struck on LTK either, although it's warming on me since re watching due to the love it gets here on AJB -{
That's how it happens C&D, I hated QOS but I took on board all the "love" others
Had for it and after many, many viewings. I calmed down, my anger ebbed away,
So that now I actually think it's quite good. sort of AJB rehabilitation centre
For disgruntled Bond fans. )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Wow...so many like MR. Wasn't expecting that! It almost puts it in the 'films you dislike that most like' category!
It was the Bond film I most grew up with. It's the most kid-friendly of all Bond films, due to things like Jaws, fun action sequences and outspace, and Bond doesn't even carry a gun in it.
First of all, I wouldn't consider ANY Bond film to be "kid-friendly" with the levels of sex, violence, sadism, and adult humor. Moonraker is no exception. The scene with Corinne being killed by the attack dogs is the single scariest moment in the series. Bond witnesses two scientists choking to death from nerve gas . Friendly RAF pilots being scorched alive by shuttle exhaust. The villain is a variation of Hitler with his own plans for exterminating undesirable people and replacing them with a new master race. The Bond girl is Holly Goodhead?! Plus, the centrifuge trainer scene is way too intense even for me.
Nope, definitely not for the kids. Then again, I seem to take MR more seriously than most.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Wow...so many like MR. Wasn't expecting that! It almost puts it in the 'films you dislike that most like' category!
It was the Bond film I most grew up with. It's the most kid-friendly of all Bond films, due to things like Jaws, fun action sequences and outspace, and Bond doesn't even carry a gun in it.
First of all, I wouldn't consider ANY Bond film to be "kid-friendly" with the levels of sex, violence, sadism, and adult humor. Moonraker is no exception. The scene with Corinne being killed by the attack dogs is the single scariest moment in the series. Bond witnesses two scientists choking to death from nerve gas . Friendly RAF pilots being scorched alive by shuttle exhaust. The villain is a variation of Hitler with his own plans for exterminating undesirable people and replacing them with a new master race. The Bond girl is Holly Goodhead?! Plus, the centrifuge trainer scene is way too intense even for me.
Nope, definitely not for the kids. Then again, I seem to take MR more seriously than most.
But it doesn't have Bond gunning people down. I loved Moonraker as a kid, and I think I turned out alright. :007)
A refreshing change of pace from all the gun violence on TV these days. On the opposite end of the spectrum is Tomorrow Never Dies with Bond firing machine guns and rocket launchers at the same time.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Most of the Bond films I love are also ranked very highly here - From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Dr No and Goldfinger are my top four (in that order), and all of them appear to be highly rated by most pundits on this forum. However, fifth on my list is Thunderball, and that isn't quite so highly rated.
I will grant that the underwater sequences in Thunderball appear to drag on a bit, but this film had Connery at his peak, some of the best one-liners in the series, a brilliant PTS and theme song, Terence Young directing, Luciana Paluzzi and Claudine Auger, and I think one of the better stories. What's more, it's a reasonably accurate adaptation of the novel of the same name.
As for the Bond film that I dislike, but is very highly rated here: The Spy Who Loved Me. I don't even think it was Moore's best, let alone one of the best in the series. One of my biggest issues is Barbara Bach. Yes, good looking as she is, I think her acting was rather weak, and she does not convince me as a Russian agent (and I don't suppose the producers could've given her a less obvious code name?). The whole "Anglo-Soviet co-operation" concept is somewhat flawed - General Gogol and M acting as though they were old friends? Really? Decades of suspicion just thrown out the window in the name of "Anglo-Soviet co-operation" ... right.
Its got to be Moonraker for me. Yes its very silly. As a kid I loved it, so as a grown up have I outgrown it? NO. The cable car scene, the carnival with Jaws in disguise slowly getting closer to Manuela, the sniper in the trees, the centrifuge scene, Drax, the amazing locations and sets, the skydiving stunt, Corinne's death. The list is endless. Sure for all the hits there are plenty of misses, but I see it as an epic film in the series that wasn't afraid to try something different. But the most important thing of all is that whenever I watch it I find it just so entertaining.
I will grant that the underwater sequences in Thunderball appear to drag on a bit, but this film had Connery at his peak, some of the best one-liners in the series, a brilliant PTS and theme song, Terence Young directing, Luciana Paluzzi and Claudine Auger, and I think one of the better stories. What's more, it's a reasonably accurate adaptation of the novel of the same name.
Films I *love* that most don't: AVTAK and MR... AVTAK may well be my favorite Moore film. No flashy or campy gadgets, Bond uses his skills as a spy (as someone previously mentioned) to get the information he needs. The action and fight scenes are more realistic IMO. Zorin and Mayday are great villains that always seem to have the one-up on Bond. In fact, if not for Mayday Bond wouldn't have been able to prevent the huge explosion like he did. I do wish the film received more credit.. I agree that people will generalize the movie as a 'old Roger Moore' bond film. Some of the imagery such as Zorin ruthlessly gunning down all of HIS workers and the way he doesn't bat an eye when giving the order that will kill Mayday are some of the best in the series.
On the flip side, I love Moonraker for all of it's camp, and extravagance. Moore plays it perfectly to make everything in the movie work (though I still cringe at the gondola scene). It also has it's fair share of thrill... the Centrifuge scene is fantastic and shows that Bond is vulnerable. Corrine's death is truly frightening.
Films I do not care for as much; Thunderball is at the top of the list. To me, it's alot like Star Trek the Motion Picture - everyone is there, good effects, good music, etc. but it just lack overall (and I find it to be too long). Another would be Casino Royale... though this is mostly due to the 'restart' of the Bond character (I don't like change)... to me, CR could have just as easily been a Bourne movie or any other action films. Very few Bond-like moments, IMO.
Bonds I like that get dumped on:
DAD & DAF- fun bits of nonsense, but really, I'm watching these for Pierce & Sean.
QOS- underrated lightning strike of a Bond film.
TMWTGG- quirky and strange, like an acid trip.
TND- generic Rambo movie blagh blagh it's Pierce in top form, Michelle kicks arse, & Johnathan gives us a great & sometimes hilarious villain.
AVTAK obviously. The second half, from the city hall fire onwards, is entertainment after entertainment.
And for the second question, CR. I just don't see it as the masterpiece many make it out to be.
Yeah, I have to agree on that. CR is good, but it's not as great as everyone says it is. AVTAK, on the other hand, is great.
I agree with you on CR. So many people consider it the greatest Bond film ever, but the action scenes add nothing to the story and I can't stand the dialogue. Bond seems so dead inside, and he's supposed to be in love?
One of the things we see is the demolition of the aeroplane at Miami airport.Le Chiffre gambles heavily, enough to ruin him, if the plane is destroyed.Bond stops the plane being destroyed. Which sets up Le Chiffre for the card game. Every scene has resonance.
One of the things we see is the demolition of the aeroplane at Miami airport.Le Chiffre gambles heavily, enough to ruin him, if the plane is destroyed.Bond stops the plane being destroyed. Which sets up Le Chiffre for the card game. Every scene has resonance.
I really just didn't like that part of the story. The way Le Chiffre loses the money in the novel may not have worked for the film, but I wish they had made it something similar and didn't just turn him into a man with a gambling problem.
And a lot of the lines I just really don't like, or I don't like the way they are delivered. They just don't seem natural. The scene with Bond and Vesper on the train I find painful to watch. Sorry.
When Craig was announced as Bond most people thought he would be awful, and then they all changed their minds when they saw him as Bond. I was very open to giving him a chance as Bond, and I even gave Casino Royale a second chance and paid to see it twice when it came out. But I enjoy it less with every subsequent viewing.
Oh come on, Matt S, not natural? What could be more natural than
I have no armour left. You've stripped it from me. Whatever is left of me... whatever is left of me... whatever I am... I'm yours
) ) )
Still, I think CR is by far the best of DC's three films - but that's not saying much.
Or Vesper's line to him before he says that:
You're not going to let me in there, are you? You've got your armour back on. That's that.
I can't stand Vesper's lines when she tells Bond about himself. Good screenplays don't do that. Bond shouldn't try to be Shakespeare. But I'll have to agree that CR is Craig's best Bond film.
Oh come on, Matt S, not natural? What could be more natural than
I have no armour left. You've stripped it from me. Whatever is left of me... whatever is left of me... whatever I am... I'm yours
) ) )
Still, I think CR is by far the best of DC's three films - but that's not saying much.
Or Vesper's line to him before he says that:
You're not going to let me in there, are you? You've got your armour back on. That's that.
I can't stand Vesper's lines when she tells Bond about himself. Good screenplays don't do that. Bond shouldn't try to be Shakespeare. But I'll have to agree that CR is Craig's best Bond film.
Well, they were sizing each other up.
Lets have a look at the quotes
[after swinging a machete to cut off Valenka's hand, he stops just short of her flesh and looks at her admiringly] Not a word of protest. You should find a new boyfriend.
M really doesn't mind you earning a little money on the side, Dryden. She'd just prefer it if it wasn't selling secrets.
If the theatrics are suppose to scare me you've got the wrong man Bond.
Do you want a clean kill or do you want to send a message?
Vesper Lynd: This is me in character pissed off because you're losing so damn hard we won't be here past midnight. Oddly enough, my character's feelings mirror my own.
And famously
Mr White: Hello?
James Bond: Mr. White? We need to talk.
Mr. White: Who is this?
[a shot rings out. White's leg is shattered. He drops to the ground in obvious pain and drags himself toward the house. He is stopped at the steps by the feet of a man in a suit. He looks up to see Bond with a cell phone in one hand and an assault weapon in the other]
James Bond: The name's Bond. James Bond.
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
Bonds I like that get dumped on:
DAD & DAF- fun bits of nonsense, but really, I'm watching these for Pierce & Sean.
QOS- underrated lightning strike of a Bond film.
TMWTGG- quirky and strange, like an acid trip.
TND- generic Rambo movie blagh blagh it's Pierce in top form, Michelle kicks arse, & Johnathan gives us a great & sometimes hilarious villain.
Brilliant list. Love your impression of TND haters. blagh blagh )
I also most definitely like Never Say Never Again. It does a better job than TB at explaining WHY Bond is sent to Shrublands. Also handles Dominos' brother more realistically than the absurd clone idea in the movie. (In the novel he was simply bribed to hijack the plane)
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
There are some really good lines in CR (especially during the torture), but the bad ones stand out too much for. Moonraker has probably the worst lines of any Bond film (especially from Drax and Dr. Goodhead), but because the film isn't supposed to be taken seriously I can accept the bad lines. CR, on the other hand, is supposed to be a realistic film, and I really don't feel like Bond and Vesper's relationship is realistic, from both the dialogue and the acting.
Comments
It was the Bond film I most grew up with. It's the most kid-friendly of all Bond films, due to things like Jaws, fun action sequences and outspace, and Bond doesn't even carry a gun in it.
your missing out.
Your name isn't Deanna is it?
I'm with you, 002- I like DAF (first Bond film I saw, back in '71, and hooked since). But I don't care so much for TWINE. And I'm not so struck on LTK either, although it's warming on me since re watching due to the love it gets here on AJB -{
Had for it and after many, many viewings. I calmed down, my anger ebbed away,
So that now I actually think it's quite good.
For disgruntled Bond fans.
First of all, I wouldn't consider ANY Bond film to be "kid-friendly" with the levels of sex, violence, sadism, and adult humor. Moonraker is no exception. The scene with Corinne being killed by the attack dogs is the single scariest moment in the series. Bond witnesses two scientists choking to death from nerve gas . Friendly RAF pilots being scorched alive by shuttle exhaust. The villain is a variation of Hitler with his own plans for exterminating undesirable people and replacing them with a new master race. The Bond girl is Holly Goodhead?! Plus, the centrifuge trainer scene is way too intense even for me.
Nope, definitely not for the kids. Then again, I seem to take MR more seriously than most.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
But it doesn't have Bond gunning people down. I loved Moonraker as a kid, and I think I turned out alright. :007)
A refreshing change of pace from all the gun violence on TV these days.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
I will grant that the underwater sequences in Thunderball appear to drag on a bit, but this film had Connery at his peak, some of the best one-liners in the series, a brilliant PTS and theme song, Terence Young directing, Luciana Paluzzi and Claudine Auger, and I think one of the better stories. What's more, it's a reasonably accurate adaptation of the novel of the same name.
As for the Bond film that I dislike, but is very highly rated here: The Spy Who Loved Me. I don't even think it was Moore's best, let alone one of the best in the series. One of my biggest issues is Barbara Bach. Yes, good looking as she is, I think her acting was rather weak, and she does not convince me as a Russian agent (and I don't suppose the producers could've given her a less obvious code name?). The whole "Anglo-Soviet co-operation" concept is somewhat flawed - General Gogol and M acting as though they were old friends? Really? Decades of suspicion just thrown out the window in the name of "Anglo-Soviet co-operation" ... right.
And for the second question, CR. I just don't see it as the masterpiece many make it out to be.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Yep! {[]
It's nice to see more Praise of AVTAK {[]
Yeah, I have to agree on that. CR is good, but it's not as great as everyone says it is. AVTAK, on the other hand, is great.
Oh dear oh dear
Casino royale is superb.
Films I *love* that most don't: AVTAK and MR... AVTAK may well be my favorite Moore film. No flashy or campy gadgets, Bond uses his skills as a spy (as someone previously mentioned) to get the information he needs. The action and fight scenes are more realistic IMO. Zorin and Mayday are great villains that always seem to have the one-up on Bond. In fact, if not for Mayday Bond wouldn't have been able to prevent the huge explosion like he did. I do wish the film received more credit.. I agree that people will generalize the movie as a 'old Roger Moore' bond film. Some of the imagery such as Zorin ruthlessly gunning down all of HIS workers and the way he doesn't bat an eye when giving the order that will kill Mayday are some of the best in the series.
On the flip side, I love Moonraker for all of it's camp, and extravagance. Moore plays it perfectly to make everything in the movie work (though I still cringe at the gondola scene). It also has it's fair share of thrill... the Centrifuge scene is fantastic and shows that Bond is vulnerable. Corrine's death is truly frightening.
Films I do not care for as much; Thunderball is at the top of the list. To me, it's alot like Star Trek the Motion Picture - everyone is there, good effects, good music, etc. but it just lack overall (and I find it to be too long). Another would be Casino Royale... though this is mostly due to the 'restart' of the Bond character (I don't like change)... to me, CR could have just as easily been a Bourne movie or any other action films. Very few Bond-like moments, IMO.
DAD & DAF- fun bits of nonsense, but really, I'm watching these for Pierce & Sean.
QOS- underrated lightning strike of a Bond film.
TMWTGG- quirky and strange, like an acid trip.
TND- generic Rambo movie blagh blagh it's Pierce in top form, Michelle kicks arse, & Johnathan gives us a great & sometimes hilarious villain.
Everyone loves:
SF
but me. 8-)
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I agree with you on CR. So many people consider it the greatest Bond film ever, but the action scenes add nothing to the story and I can't stand the dialogue. Bond seems so dead inside, and he's supposed to be in love?
It might win several awards including best film on ajb?
One of the things we see is the demolition of the aeroplane at Miami airport.Le Chiffre gambles heavily, enough to ruin him, if the plane is destroyed.Bond stops the plane being destroyed. Which sets up Le Chiffre for the card game. Every scene has resonance.
"I am the money"
" The jobs done and The bitch is dead"
I going to have a problem with you, Mr. Bond?
No, don't worry, you're not my type.
Smart?
Single
And best of all
I'm sorry. That last hand... nearly killed me
One of the better Bonds I'd say...
I really just didn't like that part of the story. The way Le Chiffre loses the money in the novel may not have worked for the film, but I wish they had made it something similar and didn't just turn him into a man with a gambling problem.
And a lot of the lines I just really don't like, or I don't like the way they are delivered. They just don't seem natural. The scene with Bond and Vesper on the train I find painful to watch. Sorry.
When Craig was announced as Bond most people thought he would be awful, and then they all changed their minds when they saw him as Bond. I was very open to giving him a chance as Bond, and I even gave Casino Royale a second chance and paid to see it twice when it came out. But I enjoy it less with every subsequent viewing.
Still, I think CR is by far the best of DC's three films - but that's not saying much.
Or Vesper's line to him before he says that:
I can't stand Vesper's lines when she tells Bond about himself. Good screenplays don't do that. Bond shouldn't try to be Shakespeare. But I'll have to agree that CR is Craig's best Bond film.
Well, they were sizing each other up.
Lets have a look at the quotes
[after swinging a machete to cut off Valenka's hand, he stops just short of her flesh and looks at her admiringly] Not a word of protest. You should find a new boyfriend.
M really doesn't mind you earning a little money on the side, Dryden. She'd just prefer it if it wasn't selling secrets.
If the theatrics are suppose to scare me you've got the wrong man Bond.
Do you want a clean kill or do you want to send a message?
Vesper Lynd: This is me in character pissed off because you're losing so damn hard we won't be here past midnight. Oddly enough, my character's feelings mirror my own.
And famously
Mr White: Hello?
James Bond: Mr. White? We need to talk.
Mr. White: Who is this?
[a shot rings out. White's leg is shattered. He drops to the ground in obvious pain and drags himself toward the house. He is stopped at the steps by the feet of a man in a suit. He looks up to see Bond with a cell phone in one hand and an assault weapon in the other]
James Bond: The name's Bond. James Bond.
Two movies that I enjoy a great deal that most people don't like as much as me are YOLT and OP.
Well enough for her to order Bond a tailored dinner jacket. Right Matt?
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Why am I suddenly surrounded by like-minded Bond fans? Hmm I could get used to this.
Brilliant list. Love your impression of TND haters. blagh blagh
I also most definitely like Never Say Never Again. It does a better job than TB at explaining WHY Bond is sent to Shrublands. Also handles Dominos' brother more realistically than the absurd clone idea in the movie. (In the novel he was simply bribed to hijack the plane)
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS