Quantum Of Solace - A Look at it as a Sequel and Bond Film

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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,929Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    ...our hero here is a "blunt instrument" that comes straight out of the Bourne franchise rather than being a charming agent.

    But Bond IS a 'blunt instrument'...and described by Fleming as such...so - job done -{

    Bourne just followed on from Bond...

    You're right but I meant that I would have appreciated it if a slight hint of smile was on DC's face.

    I understand what you mean - but this wasn't anything to smile about...he's was trying to find out who was behind the killing of the woman he loved...
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Although it does have a couple of "light" moments ..
    I love the " I don't think he smoked" line as M smashes the
    Ashtray. The Teacher's who've won the lottery and " Is that
    a complement ?", :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    Although it does have a couple of "light" moments ..
    I love the " I don't think he smoked" line as M smashes the
    Ashtray. The Teacher's who've won the lottery and " Is that
    a complement ?", :D

    And when he leaves Dominic in the desert; a classic witty death. And White in the opera: "I guess Tosca isn't for everyone". Fields' death is witty in the sense that it's a homage to Goldfinger. I don't think any of the Craig films have really been 'light'; Skyfall is more depressing in my opinion than Quantum of Solace. Even though Bond is a broken man in QoS he's still capable of action, whereas in Skyfall he has an existential crisis! And M dies!
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    But Bond IS a 'blunt instrument'...and described by Fleming as such...so - job done -{

    Bourne just followed on from Bond...

    You're right but I meant that I would have appreciated it if a slight hint of smile was on DC's face.

    I understand what you mean - but this wasn't anything to smile about...he's was trying to find out who was behind the killing of the woman he loved...

    that may very well be the reason
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Lady Ice wrote:

    And when he leaves Dominic in the desert; a classic witty death. !

    Strangely enough I find Greene hobbling along in the desert more haunting then a lot of villains deaths. There's something eerie about it..
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love the line about drinking the oil -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I love the line about drinking the oil -{
    That was a seed they planted in your head with that line. It still unsettles me...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    I particularly like two lines:
    • "Please, my friends call me Dominic"-"I'm sure they do!"
    -Bond indirectly tells greene to get lost ;)
    • "Goodbye, Mr.Greene"
    -sounds to me like Bond is ending a business :))
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Question to you guys who own the BD: I only have the DVD of QOS and it looks pretty terrific, but is it worth getting for better viewing on Blu Ray?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    there is a slight difference IMO but I would get the whole set then
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes. The " I'm sure they do" , is a lovely old school
    Bond insult. -{ I do think DC suits these gritty jibes,
    rather than the Roger Moore style. Only my oponion
    of course. :)
    Chris, Bluray is always better ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Chris, Bluray is always better ;)
    I guess you're right...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sadly, you have to try and future proof your collection.
    So you have to buy every new technology version. :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Question to you guys who own the BD: I only have the DVD of QOS and it looks pretty terrific, but is it worth getting for better viewing on Blu Ray?

    Yes! The Blu-Ray version looks fantastic!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Welcome back. AC, -{ it's been a while ?
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Thanks guys, I'm getting it now!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    Lady Ice wrote:

    And when he leaves Dominic in the desert; a classic witty death. !

    Strangely enough I find Greene hobbling along in the desert more haunting then a lot of villains deaths. There's something eerie about it..

    It is creepy but quite darkly witty.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    He gets his sweet desert ! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Okay, I'm back with the Blu Ray (It was in the $5 bin where I work). My Son has consented to watch it with me. I've shown him a spread of Bonds in the past couple of years, but the only one he really liked (and asked to see a second time) was DN. I told him this was like DN- short, to the point, no lasers & played perfectly straight. I'll let ya know how it goes.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It must have killed you to say " No lasers " :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    It must have killed you to say " No lasers " :))
    You have no idea... but my boy seem to think the funny & cool stuff has no place in these kind of films. He like the M:I movies, btw.
    Well, we started it and his first comment was "This is REALLY well photographed!" We are on a short break due to sudden artistic inspiration, and will resume when his drawing is done.
    For MY part I have to say, yes, this is an amazing picture, much better than the DVD.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    My Son's review (relayed):
    It wasted no time, was very internally consistent, it was a good movie, but it lacked the Bond theme during it, and it was a bit more 'realistic' than he expected.
    That's my boy! :))

    Wow did it look fantastic. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Some of the early films look amazing on Bluray. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Some of the early films look amazing on Bluray. -{
    ALL of them do!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • eric7064eric7064 USAPosts: 344MI6 Agent
    I like this film more then most people do. Everyone says it should be longer. And while I have no problem with more Bond I don't see a need for QOS to be longer. I thought it wrapped everything up quite nicely for the first Bond sequel. We're the villian memorable. No. Was it as good as CR? No, but Imo CR is hard to top. This may be the forgotten film of the Craig era, but If this is the "worst" film he does then the franchise is in good hands. Not great film but I'd definitely say above average.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    When I say QoS should be longer, I mean there should be a few more minutes added to clarify what's going on in some scenes:

    The scene where Mr. White escapes and people are being shot, or the really expensive action scene where Bond and the enemy henchman are swinging from a rope in a tall building.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Many have said a few more character development scenes would have
    Helped it greatly. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,099Chief of Staff
    Just watched it again, and I agree completely with what AC said above. Just a few seconds, not even a minute in total, during those scenes and a few others, would improve them dramatically.
    Overall, it's a great film though. It's nowhere near as shallow as it's often made out to be, and in parts succeeds in resonating. Craig's performance is fascinating (it's called objectivity: he's still my least favourite Bond), and Arnold's music (especially "A Night At The Opera") is appropriate and enjoyable. Note that I said Arnold's music!
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Just watched it again, and I agree completely with what AC said above. Just a few seconds, not even a minute in total, during those scenes and a few others, would improve them dramatically.
    Overall, it's a great film though. It's nowhere near as shallow as it's often made out to be, and in parts succeeds in resonating. Craig's performance is fascinating (it's called objectivity: he's still my least favourite Bond), and Arnold's music (especially "A Night At The Opera") is appropriate and enjoyable. Note that I said Arnold's music!

    "A Night At The Opera" is one of Arnold's best tracks and evokes the ostinato-based tracks that John Barry wrote for so many Bond films. This one particularly has a lot in common with the Space March from YOLT.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,099Chief of Staff
    {[] Yup! Very haunting (and deliberately so, of course). Arnold has never made any secret that he uses Barry as a role model- I really, really hope he'll return!
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