Pros and Cons: For Your Eyes Only

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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    That is true. The way they do Rog's hair and some of his wardrobe (that mask included) is certainly a con for the film.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    That is true. The way they do Rog's hair and some of his wardrobe (that mask included) is certainly a con for the film.

    Yeah the green cardigan or whatever it is he's wearing during the car chase parts of the movie is horrid!

    Apart from Carol Bouquet's wardrobe, which was specifically done for her - the rest of the wardrobe is horrible.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    That is true. The way they do Rog's hair and some of his wardrobe (that mask included) is certainly a con for the film.

    Yeah the green cardigan or whatever it is he's wearing during the car chase parts of the movie is horrid!

    Apart from Carol Bouquet's wardrobe, which was specifically done for her - the rest of the wardrobe is horrible.

    Moore's suits are beautiful! I think his ski clothes, the shearling jacket and the climbing outfit are also great.
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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    The hair looks like a helmet here! https://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-169.png

    I like the ski clothes, but the underneath white turtleneck detacts here: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-41.png?w=590&h=368

    Love Rog in the turtlenecks, but here's another one where it detracts: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-275.png?w=590&h=368


    I know I'm being picky, but hard for me to find negatives on any Bond! After searching for them in this film I might have to revisit this one on my rankings!
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    The hair looks like a helmet here! https://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-169.png

    I like the ski clothes, but the underneath white turtleneck detacts here: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-41.png?w=590&h=368

    Love Rog in the turtlenecks, but here's another one where it detracts: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-275.png?w=590&h=368


    I know I'm being picky, but hard for me to find negatives on any Bond! After searching for them in this film I might have to revisit this one on my rankings!

    He's a bloody good-looking man that's for sure!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    So dreamy :x
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    The hair looks like a helmet here! https://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-169.png

    I like the ski clothes, but the underneath white turtleneck detacts here: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-41.png?w=590&h=368

    Love Rog in the turtlenecks, but here's another one where it detracts: http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/for-your-eyes-only-275.png?w=590&h=368


    I know I'm being picky, but hard for me to find negatives on any Bond! After searching for them in this film I might have to revisit this one on my rankings!

    Everything there looks fantastic!
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Barbel wrote:
    -Moore gives a decent performance, although a slight step down from his previous 4.

    It's your opinion, of course, but I'd say that this is one of his best 007 performances- if not THE best.

    You're probably right there.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    -Moore gives a decent performance, although a slight step down from his previous 4.

    It's your opinion, of course, but I'd say that this is one of his best 007 performances- if not THE best.

    You're probably right there.

    I've always thought it was his best performance. He shows his serious side, his humourous side, his tough side and his compassionate side. All of it is equally believable, and this is one of the most realistic and human performances of the character.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    I just see Moore like a fish out of water in FYEO, and not as captivating as in other performances.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree here.

    I think he pulls off a serious Bond type performance better in AVTAK.

    I still think his performance is good in FYEO, but I definitely like his previous 4 performances more.
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    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    Matt S wrote:
    He shows his serious side, his humourous side, his tough side and his compassionate side. All of it is equally believable, and this is one of the most realistic and human performances of the character.

    I agree with this. His performance is exceptional. The flaws with the movie, are with the movie, not with him - such as the stupid ice-rink scene and Blofeld in the PTS...
    I just see Moore like a fish out of water in FYEO, and not as captivating as in other performances. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. I think he pulls off a serious Bond type performance better in AVTAK. I still think his performance is good in FYEO, but I definitely like his previous 4 performances more.

    I don't agree he's a fish out of water, I think his performance is exceptional - however, I do feel that he's more comfortable in OP with the greater balance of his charm (serious and humorous).

    Roger's successful range across 1973-1985 is nothing short of amazing and this is why I rate him higher than SC, because by TB, SC has clearly checked out. Roger gave it his all in every...single...film. Craig/Pierce are the same.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Despite the fact that this is my 2nd least fave Bond film, I quite like that scene when Columbo tells Bond that he has guts. Topol really gave a great performance.
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    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Despite the fact that this is my 2nd least fave Bond film

    20. CR 21. TB 22. FYEO

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  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,341MI6 Agent
    IMO , the best Moore Bond {[]

    Kristatos is like Stromberg , he's often overlooked it seems....same with Loque.

    It has some "comedy" bits but it still manages to shine , 5/6.
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    IMO , the best Moore Bond {[]

    Kristatos is like Stromberg , he's often overlooked it seems....same with Loque.

    It has some "comedy" bits but it still manages to shine , 5/6.


    My issue with Kristatos is that he doesn't get much to do in the movie imo, he just feels underused. I think the issue I have with him is the same one I have with Kananga, although Kananga makes a slightly bigger impression on me. It's nothing on Glover, but imo Kristatos just isn't in the same league as Zorin, Drax, or Khan.

    Stromberg is another matter, with him it's not so much that he lacks screen time, but that he lacks presence. Great villains have gravitas, but Stromberg clearly lacks that. He does manage to look tough though, but (like Kristatos) he's no Zorin, Drax, or Khan.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    IMO , the best Moore Bond {[]

    Kristatos is like Stromberg , he's often overlooked it seems....same with Loque.

    It has some "comedy" bits but it still manages to shine , 5/6.


    My issue with Kristatos is that he doesn't get much to do in the movie imo, he just feels underused. I think the issue I have with him is the same one I have with Kananga, although Kananga makes a slightly bigger impression on me. It's nothing on Glover, but imo Kristatos just isn't in the same league as Zorin, Drax, or Khan.

    Stromberg is another matter, with him it's not so much that he lacks screen time, but that he lacks presence. Great villains have gravitas, but Stromberg clearly lacks that. He does manage to look tough though, but (like Kristatos) he's no Zorin, Drax, or Khan.

    The main thrust of Kristatos is that he's a hidden villain. Who is behind it all? Kristatos or Colombo? He's only revealed as the villain three quarters of the way through from the film - which was the same in the novel

    Much underrated is Kristatos
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  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    I guess this is the Moore film for people who don't like Moore films. Compared to Moonraker, it's a step up, so in context of the times I understand the acclaim. Compared to all films in general, however, it's a pretty average standard not-bad spy film.

    I liked the more subtle action scene with an eye for suspense, as well as the beautiful scenery of course. While it stripped out and toned down a lot of cliche elements, it didn't really do a lot to innovate on the Bond formula either. I can deal with no gadgets, but having both a weak Bond villain and a dull female lead are a huge damper on a Bond film.
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    The main thrust of Kristatos is that he's a hidden villain. Who is behind it all? Kristatos or Colombo? He's only revealed as the villain three quarters of the way through from the film - which was the same in the novel

    Much underrated is Kristatos

    The twist was good, but I don't think it was a particularly shocking or impactful one either. Kristatos is not a bad villain; just an underwhelming one. He's never really entertaining, terrifying or a formidable opponent for Bond. He's just a thug/abusive husband. I praise FYEO for avoiding a straightforward global domination plot, although I just think the film needed some kind of extra oomph!
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    I really like this exchange between Bibi and Kristatos before he slaps her;

    Bibi: "Where's Brink? What have you done to her?

    Kristatos: "Go back to your room!

    Bibi: "You can go to HELL!"

    An underrated villain who spends the majority of the film hiding behind a calm exterior. His true nature comes out in this scene.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    The main thrust of Kristatos is that he's a hidden villain. Who is behind it all? Kristatos or Colombo? He's only revealed as the villain three quarters of the way through from the film - which was the same in the novel

    Much underrated is Kristatos

    The twist was good, but I don't think it was a particularly shocking or impactful one either. Kristatos is not a bad villain; just an underwhelming one. He's never really entertaining, terrifying or a formidable opponent for Bond. He's just a thug/abusive husband. I praise FYEO for avoiding a straightforward global domination plot, although I just think the film needed some kind of extra oomph!

    You have to view it is context.

    We'd just had a world destroying villain in Drax? Do you think FYEO would work with a world destroying villain? He's an agent for the Soviets, not apparent until the Russians show themselves threequarters of the way through the film. He also has strong background against Colombo ie Nazis, communists. And now he's working for the Soviets. In many ways - the main story of FYEO is Kristatos versus Colombo which is the main battle at the climax

    At what age did you first see FYEO?
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    I just got done saying I appreciated that FYEO didn't go for another Stromberg/Drax plot. I'm okay with Kristatos being not being exposed until the third act, but in that third act, he didn't get too much development. I like the Cold War and detente tie-in to the story and I like the idea of Kristatos being a Soviet proxy, but I was hoping for a little more. It's a good film, but it feels like it was missing something.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    I just got done saying I appreciated that FYEO didn't go for another Stromberg/Drax plot. I'm okay with Kristatos being not being exposed until the third act, but in that third act, he didn't get too much development. I like the Cold War and detente tie-in to the story and I like the idea of Kristatos being a Soviet proxy, but I was hoping for a little more. It's a good film, but it feels like it was missing something.

    They couldn't do a Stromberg/Drax plot. They had to bring it down to earth pretty sharpish. So we have an adventure set among the Greek underworld - where no one trusts one another. The thing is if you see this one 2015 and not 1981 it does jar.

    But for many of the characters and their motivations are the key elements to this film. You've got to remember that, although we loved it, we really didn't have a meaty film since OHMSS
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    I remember watching FYEO with my dad, he was critical of the ending and that there was no big explosion :#

    As silly as that is, I think the fact that there's no explosion at the end of the film signifies the major difference FYEO has to many other Bond films. It's one thing I love about it, it's different. It certainly isn't perfect, but IMO, it is one of the slower paced, deeper meaning films that allows Bond to have a different mission that isn't all about jumping from sub to sub, space shuttle to space shuttle!

    I do get why people don't like it though, same with TWINE.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • OddjoblofeldraxorinOddjoblofeldraxorin CaliforniaPosts: 195MI6 Agent
    Pros
    1. I liked how the movie was more serious in tone, but Moore was still the same guy we love from the four previous lighter films.
    2. The stuns are amazing!!
    3. Cassandra's cleavage

    Cons
    1. I love the soundtrack but it's really dated. If JB had done the soundtrack FYEO would be the perfect Bond.
    2. From here on out there was no more Ken Adam set style. (I think) which was a huge part of Bond.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    2. From here on out there was no more Ken Adam set style. (I think) which was a huge part of Bond.

    Nice reference to Ken Adam, always appreciate that! {[]

    My only cons with FYEO is the mixed tone of the PTS (Blofeld is silly) and some odd scenes, like the ice-rink-goal and Thatcher references.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Pros
    1. I liked how the movie was more serious in tone, but Moore was still the same guy we love from the four previous lighter films.
    2. The stuns are amazing!!
    3. Cassandra's cleavage

    Cons
    1. I love the soundtrack but it's really dated. If JB had done the soundtrack FYEO would be the perfect Bond.
    2. From here on out there was no more Ken Adam set style. (I think) which was a huge part of Bond.

    In a way I agree. The film is different that many of other Moore films but Moore is more or less same apart from a few scenes where he shows controlled anger .... In the PTS, Q's lab, car chase, flower shop, etc., he is the Moore that we know and like :)
  • DevereauxDevereaux EnglandPosts: 35MI6 Agent
    Despite the fact that this is my 2nd least fave Bond film, I quite like that scene when Columbo tells Bond that he has guts. Topol really gave a great performance.

    Probably one of my favourite scenes. Great acting by Topol here, very fluid and natural. Good interplay with Bond and the mutual respect they find for each other at the conclusion of this scene. Very nicely played.
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    FYEO is one of the top 007 films. It is terrifically gripping from the first scene to the last. The movie keeps the viewers involved either through action, stunts or story. The locations chosen are brilliant too and includes mountains, countryside, sea, underwater, etc. The Mediterranean region is beautifully shot

    Moore, once again, plays the role perfectly by balancing various elements nicely. The movie has a slightly serious tone compared to some of the other Moore films but the end is very hilarious with the parrot speaking through the watch to the British PM :))
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    FYEO is one of the top 007 films. It is terrifically gripping from the first scene to the last. The movie keeps the viewers involved either through action, stunts or story. The locations chosen are brilliant too and includes mountains, countryside, sea, underwater, etc. The Mediterranean region is beautifully shot

    Moore, once again, plays the role perfectly by balancing various elements nicely. The movie has a slightly serious tone compared to some of the other Moore films but the end is very hilarious with the parrot speaking through the watch to the British PM :))

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    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 412MI6 Agent
    For Your Eyes Only is and will probably always be my favourite of the Bond series.

    Pro's:

    -Excellent back to basics plot / Back to Ian Fleming style Bond
    -John Glen being promoted from second unit director to DIRECTOR, which he would help throughout the 80's
    -Roger Moore's serious performance (I wish one more of his films were like this, though AVTAK comes close)
    -Locations easily the best in the series (Northern Italy, Corfu, Spain and Albania)
    -Nice Ian Fleming esq plot
    -Excellent action scenes , best in the series (Car Chase, Ski Chase - fantastic and the warehouse scene)
    -Roger Moore kicking Locque over the cliff
    -Max the parrot
    -All scenes in St Cyrils - cliff climbing and climax
    -Theme song by Sheena Easton
    -The Casino Scene - one of the most sharp of the series
    -Carole Bouquet as Melina Havelock
    -Julian Glover as Kristatos and Topol as Columbo

    Con's:

    -Pre Credits Sequence - yeah could have been better
    -Underwater sequence might have been too long but hey, I'm not complaining
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. AVTAK 8. GF 9. MR 10. TB 11. OP 12. SF 13. DN 14. SP 15. LALD 16. GE 17. CR 18. YOLT 19. TWINE 20. TMWTGG 21. NTTD 22. TND 23. QOS 24. NSNA 25. DAD 26. DAF 27. CR '67

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