Chemistry between Bond actors & female lead

Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
edited September 2015 in The James Bond Films
Not with regard to the plot or the writing, but in terms of the acting. How believable is the romantic relationship? Do they flirt? Do they look happy to see each other or are they going through the motions?

Connery seems to be the best with the ladies. With Andress/Ryder, it was kind of a condescending relationship, but in the desolate villain lair, how they confided in each other was believable. Some misogyny in the script aside, Bianchi/Romonova portrayed a genuine attachment to Bond. Blackman/Galore had a different more-mutual kind of relationship with Bond but there was that lust factor. Auger/Duvale was believable enough. Hama/Aki played the part well, and Connery looked really sad when she died. St.John/Case was basically a dumb broad ; no chemistry. 5 out of 6 ain't bad!

With Lazenby, knowing how poorly he and Rigg/Tracy got along on set, it's a surprise that their relationship in the film wasn't a total disaster. But you could still see a lack of chemistry and excitement. No flirting. Not convincing that Bond would tie the knot with.

With much of the Moore era, while being a womanizer in real life, chemistry just wasn't there on screen. He was getting old, acted grandfatherly and started to lack energy. The female leads in his movies were dumb, stereotypical and half his age.

Dalton, wanting to tone down the promiscuity of the character, toned down the sexuality a few notches. In turn, the relationships between his women were more platonic.

Brosnan did his best on his end, but some of the actresses weren't on point. And all of Craig's were really good (except Severine). Craig and Vesper/Green's chemistry was exceptional.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    The best

    Connery with Andress, Bianchi, Blackman plus I also think St John as he had an affair with

    Lazenby - he wasn't an actor and I think it worked against him with a seasoned actress. One thing you don't do is put on airs and graces with a women who has done Shakespeare.

    Moore - heres where he get a free reign. If you are stupid enough to upset Moore then he wont do anything as Roberts and Jones found out - thirty years down the line. His main occupation was keeping the crew happy and it seemed to work with Chiles,Bouquet, Bach, Ekland, Seymour and especially Adams. So he did his best to make the whole thing enjoyable.

    Dalton - you got the results with Tim - but by god you have to work for them. He was good with both his girls who give good performances. D'Abo was a very romantic role

    Brosnan - with perhaps the exception of Electra I don't think his girls worked. They were also cliches of the worse kind, but Brosnan gave them nothing. They hardly sizzled. Watching TND, God does he like his leading lady? Wasnt impressed by any of his chemistry..

    Craig - wow we have Eva Green. "What a coup she was. An actress who worked her way up from the stage like Craig. Also given the meatiest role in the Bond cannon. She is slighty untrustworthy. The ground shifts from under her. I like Camille. I like her journey fighting Medrano was set against Bonds fight in that film. And Severine sizzled in her small role. So top marks.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    I thought Moore was great with Melina in FYEO. He's more of a caring friend, and she plays the grieving daughter very well. That relationship is very effective. The only part that fails is when they make it romantic at the very end of the film. I'm not expecting there to be romantic chemistry.

    And for Dr. Goodhead, neither one of them is supposed to have romantic feelings for each other. Goodhead is Bond's equal in both abilities and personailty, and she just wants fun, unemotional sex as much as Bond does. For me, it's one of the best relationships in the series because Bond isn't taking advantage of her like he does with so many girls. Neither one of them is supposed to care about the other, but they both want sex and fun.

    And for TLD, Bond doesn't flirt with Kara because he's supposed to be her boyfriend's friend. Kara falls for Bond just by being with him.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    I agree that we should judge films in what they're trying to do rather than impose some kind of universal standard. Sometimes the relationship is superficial and we shouldn't expect super-deep chemistry.

    However, going from totally disinterested-looking to "For your eyes only...." at the end, doesn't feel natural at all. It's not believable that many of these women would sleep with Bond after showing zero interest in him throughout the film. But, the fact is that the film industry has tropes to fill.

    The guy always gets the girl at the end. The girl must be a damsel in distress to save and the girl owes a guy sex if he saves her life.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,434MI6 Agent
    How does it affect the on-screen chemistry if the Bond actor slept with a Bond girl actress? I believe I read that Connery had sex with Lana Wood. Id be surprised if that was the only case after 50 years of Bond.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Well, Moore said that there was no Chemistry between himself and Tanya Roberts.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    How does it affect the on-screen chemistry if the Bond actor slept with a Bond girl actress? I believe I read that Connery had sex with Lana Wood. Id be surprised if that was the only case after 50 years of Bond.

    And Jill St John?
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Well, Moore said that there was no Chemistry between himself and Tanya Roberts.

    The worst part of the film is them at the end. Just like in FYEO, there was no need for them to have sex at the end of the film.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    It's funny that the last thing Moore says in his entire Era as Bond is 'oohh!'
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Exactly. Not every Bond film needs to end with a sex scene, especially ones that don't warrant it. It made sense in TSWLM, for example, wasn't needed at all in FYEO and AVTAK.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Exactly. Not every Bond film needs to end with a sex scene, especially ones that don't warrant it. It made sense in TSWLM, for example, wasn't needed at all in FYEO and AVTAK.

    Not really. It was company policy.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    what do you mean?

    Part of the debriefing.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote :
    " ..... there was no need for them to have sex at the end of the film."

    Well from memory it's what I ended up doing ! :)) but we never went back to that Cinema. ;)
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I'd disagree that there isn't chemistry between GL and DR in OHMSS -- the scene in the barn, for instance, is utterly believable and among the best in the series. But I'd say SC always had the best chemistry and TD or PB the worst.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    The Barn Scenes shows Bond at his most Human (In the first 20 Films)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    The Barn Scenes shows Bond at his most Human (In the first 20 Films)

    I'd say of all the films. But then again, I'm probably in the minority of people who don't find Daniel Craig's Bond all that human. The least human Bond is Brosnan by far.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Craig's Bond was rather cut up when M passed away.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, that's the scene I was thinking of too. {[] He's also pretty cut up
    Over the death of Vesper, even his meeting with Vesper's Boyfriend at
    the end of QOS, has a great sense of " controlled aggression " so for me
    At least Craig has been able to show Bond's human/vulnerable side. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Yes, that's the scene I was thinking of too. {[] He's also pretty cut up
    Over the death of Vesper, even his meeting with Vesper's Boyfriend at
    the end of QOS, has a great sense of " controlled aggression " so for me
    At least Craig has been able to show Bond's human/vulnerable side. :)

    He's good at deaths. But that was the only time he shows any emotion towards Vesper. I didn't believe that they fell in love from the way he acted toward and around her when she was alive. I thought Lazenby played the love story much better.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Yes, that's the scene I was thinking of too. {[] He's also pretty cut up
    Over the death of Vesper, even his meeting with Vesper's Boyfriend at
    the end of QOS, has a great sense of " controlled aggression " so for me
    At least Craig has been able to show Bond's human/vulnerable side. :)

    He's good at deaths. But that was the only time he shows any emotion towards Vesper. I didn't believe that they fell in love from the way he acted toward and around her when she was alive. I thought Lazenby played the love story much better.

    I thought the scene in the restaurant where he notices Vespers brooch. She's beginning to fall for him then
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Maybe I'm just a silly ( incredibly handsome) old romantic but I too
    Thought Both actors gave a great performance, of a couple falling in
    Love. {[]
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Yes, that's the scene I was thinking of too. {[] He's also pretty cut up
    Over the death of Vesper, even his meeting with Vesper's Boyfriend at
    the end of QOS, has a great sense of " controlled aggression " so for me
    At least Craig has been able to show Bond's human/vulnerable side. :)

    He's good at deaths. But that was the only time he shows any emotion towards Vesper. I didn't believe that they fell in love from the way he acted toward and around her when she was alive. I thought Lazenby played the love story much better.
    I'm inclined to agree. In all three films, Craig has not even shown half the range of the previous actors who played Bond.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Yes, that's the scene I was thinking of too. {[] He's also pretty cut up
    Over the death of Vesper, even his meeting with Vesper's Boyfriend at
    the end of QOS, has a great sense of " controlled aggression " so for me
    At least Craig has been able to show Bond's human/vulnerable side. :)

    He's good at deaths. But that was the only time he shows any emotion towards Vesper. I didn't believe that they fell in love from the way he acted toward and around her when she was alive. I thought Lazenby played the love story much better.
    I'm inclined to agree. In all three films, Craig has not even shown half the range of the previous actors who played Bond.

    Puts pair of glasses on Gassyman.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Nah, Craig is quite narrow. There's more emotion shown on Connery's face in a single scene than in an entire movie with Craig. It is one of the few flaws I have with his portrayal of Bond.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Nah, Craig is quite narrow. .

    :s :s :s :s :s :s

    You must give me the name of your occulist?
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I can give you the name of a good psychiatrist.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    I can give you the name of a good psychiatrist.

    Ooooohhhhh

    Get him.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    When I am done, haha.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    There's certainly plenty of chemistry between you two ! :p :D
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    One tries
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