I watched a documentary about Ford, in which they made a car for the American
market, which they knew basically exploded when " rear ended" but didn't recall
It. As their accounts worked out it would be cheaper to pay out compensation to
The victims and their families, than have a recall.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I watched a documentary about Ford, in which they made a car for the American
market, which they knew basically exploded when " rear ended" but didn't recall
It. As their accounts worked out it would be cheaper to pay out compensation to
The victims and their families, than have a recall.
Except the ones that are recalled for brakes ,airbags ,suspension, steering , my misses has had 3 of them ,now she has a VW
cant beat German cars
And that from a man who drives a BMW - shouldn't you be used to recalls? )
Sorry to burst your bubble but BMW is the current "European champion" of recalled cars. Their recall ratio is 227% in 2014 which means for every 100 cars they sold in the US they had to recall 227. (This is possible because recalls usually involve several older model years.) So they are not much better here than Toyota (253%). "Leader" in this category is GM with a whopping 912%... 8-)
Coming back to the 2000GT prototype - I would be very sceptical if I had the money and was seriously considering a purchase. There is nothing left that one could actually identify a prototype. The car was modified for racing and then back to road car with later model year bodywork, so it resembles a 1969-70 production car (and IMO just as well could have started out as such). The only thing that "proves" that this was the first 2000GT is the builders plaque. But such things can be forged quite easily, and certainly if you want to add a few 100,000 $ to the price.
I mean, there are now more "genuine" Hemi 'Cudas or Challengers and L-71/89 or L-88 Corvettes around than were ever built. And most of those have "matching" numbers and codes to prove this.
This photo from http://www.2000gt.net shows how the early prototypes looked like. The front fenders are different, and the pop-up lights are hinged at the rear (note the straight line), not like the production cars where the lights turn around the longitudinal axis (similar to the Opel GT) and the pods are triangular with rounded corners. If the car had retained these unique features it would be more interesting.
The "exploding Ford" was the Pinto! I am ashamed to admit that it was my first car. Paid $500 for a '76 model in 1979, and crashed it a few months later so I could buy a '73 Jensen Healy. Engine blew (surprise?), so I sent deeper and bought a Series 1 RHD E Type.
It broke (surprise?), so I drove a borrowed Honda, and bought a Fiat X1/9, which never, ever broke. Well, hardly ever....
Pinto had a sister car by Mercury called a "Bobcat" Featured a 2L pushrod cast iron engine, most with slush autoboxes.
Came in monochrome colour schemes, ie exterior colour was tan, then interior, seatbelts, everything would be tan...hideous!!
Anybody know if the Dezer Collection has "THE" 2000GT? Film seen?
Cheers, Tom
I watched a documentary about Ford, in which they made a car for the American
market, which they knew basically exploded when " rear ended" but didn't recall
It. As their accounts worked out it would be cheaper to pay out compensation to
The victims and their families, than have a recall.
Ah yes, the Ford Pinto. Those incriminating documents came out at trial and the damages against Ford, as I recall, wiped out any predicted savings. And the lesson is learned...don't keep incriminating documents that have to be turned over during discovery.
Anybody know if the Dezer Collection has "THE" 2000GT? Film seen? Cheers, Tom
If my memory serves me correct I believe that the Dezer car was a 2000GT (if there is such a thing) that Peter Nelson had transformed into a convertible. And as a gift EON gave him the camera console that was seen in the original film from their archives.
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Except the ones that are recalled for brakes ,airbags ,suspension, steering , my misses has had 3 of them ,now she has a VW
cant beat German cars
Wonder what may be under their carpets
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
market, which they knew basically exploded when " rear ended" but didn't recall
It. As their accounts worked out it would be cheaper to pay out compensation to
The victims and their families, than have a recall.
Yeah, I've read about that too somewhere!
Sorry to burst your bubble but BMW is the current "European champion" of recalled cars. Their recall ratio is 227% in 2014 which means for every 100 cars they sold in the US they had to recall 227. (This is possible because recalls usually involve several older model years.) So they are not much better here than Toyota (253%). "Leader" in this category is GM with a whopping 912%... 8-)
(Data from: http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/4181/umfrage/rueckrufe-fehlerhafter-automodelle-nach-automarken/)
Coming back to the 2000GT prototype - I would be very sceptical if I had the money and was seriously considering a purchase. There is nothing left that one could actually identify a prototype. The car was modified for racing and then back to road car with later model year bodywork, so it resembles a 1969-70 production car (and IMO just as well could have started out as such). The only thing that "proves" that this was the first 2000GT is the builders plaque. But such things can be forged quite easily, and certainly if you want to add a few 100,000 $ to the price.
I mean, there are now more "genuine" Hemi 'Cudas or Challengers and L-71/89 or L-88 Corvettes around than were ever built. And most of those have "matching" numbers and codes to prove this.
This photo from http://www.2000gt.net shows how the early prototypes looked like. The front fenders are different, and the pop-up lights are hinged at the rear (note the straight line), not like the production cars where the lights turn around the longitudinal axis (similar to the Opel GT) and the pods are triangular with rounded corners. If the car had retained these unique features it would be more interesting.
It broke (surprise?), so I drove a borrowed Honda, and bought a Fiat X1/9, which never, ever broke. Well, hardly ever....
Pinto had a sister car by Mercury called a "Bobcat" Featured a 2L pushrod cast iron engine, most with slush autoboxes.
Came in monochrome colour schemes, ie exterior colour was tan, then interior, seatbelts, everything would be tan...hideous!!
Anybody know if the Dezer Collection has "THE" 2000GT? Film seen?
Cheers, Tom
Ah yes, the Ford Pinto. Those incriminating documents came out at trial and the damages against Ford, as I recall, wiped out any predicted savings. And the lesson is learned...don't keep incriminating documents that have to be turned over during discovery.
If my memory serves me correct I believe that the Dezer car was a 2000GT (if there is such a thing) that Peter Nelson had transformed into a convertible. And as a gift EON gave him the camera console that was seen in the original film from their archives.