Is Man from UNCLE making EON Nervous?

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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    I seem to recall the Lost in Space movie used the original theme didn't it?

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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,818MI6 Agent
    I seem to recall the Lost in Space movie used the original theme didn't it?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9e0anSpDKA

    Correct C&D! The film had no opening titles except a quickly squewed title card. However the original series theme was used fir the closing credits, with a "rocked up" instrumentation. Besides the cameos by five of of the original tv cast, it was the only decent thing about the film.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,774MI6 Agent
    I saw UNCLE last night and must say that I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I was going to. Henry Cavill was quite funny--I didn't realize he could pull off that type of humor, but he did so with aplomb. Visually, the film was beautiful. The story is a bit forgettable, but that didn't matter to me because the chemistry between the lead actors was so good.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady MinnesotaPosts: 36MI6 Agent
    I hope to see it soon. It looks like a great film to me.
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  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Just back from this , great entertainment with more than a few Bond referances "Count Lippi " and the Hiller helicopter G-ASAZ in it is Pussy Galores one used to deliver the bomb to Fort Knox. I really hope a second is made B-)

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Today I was looking up a few facts about the TV series of Uncle and
    Thought this was interesting, especially for David McCallum. ;)

    Originally, Will Kuluva was to play the head of U.N.C.L.E but was replaced by Leo G. Carroll. After the pilot was screened for the network executives, they told the producers to "get rid of the foreign guy". They really meant for David McCallum's Russian agent to get the axe, but the producers thought they meant Kuluva.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Today I was looking up a few facts about the TV series of Uncle and
    Thought this was interesting, especially for David McCallum. ;)

    Originally, Will Kuluva was to play the head of U.N.C.L.E but was replaced by Leo G. Carroll. After the pilot was screened for the network executives, they told the producers to "get rid of the foreign guy". They really meant for David McCallum's Russian agent to get the axe, but the producers thought they meant Kuluva.

    That's interesting. The boss in the pilot was quite forgettable. Leo G. Carroll basically played his North By Northwest character in U.N.C.L.E., and it was a great character.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes. -{ Leo G. Carroll was superb. :)
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    North by Northwest is the basic blueprint for UNCLE, in that every week an innocent, every day person somehow was accidentally involved in the struggle between UNCLE and THRUSH.

    It made the audience feel like an integral part of the show. And it was the basic premise of Cary Grant's character, an advertising exec accidentally roped in as a decoy for 'George Kaplan' by Leo G. Caroll's secret agency.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    edited September 2015
    I saw it on Friday at the BFI Imax at Waterloo, a dry run for SPECTRE. I took my mum in her wheelchair, she has advanced Parkinson's, and the disabled access is v good there, as the seat is right at the back of the cinema, and as the screen is so huge, it's about the best place to be anyway, I couldn't face sitting half way down. In contrast, the wheelchair access at Odeon Leicester Square is right at the back, but part of the screen is cut off by the overhang of the balcony above! :#

    Anyway, a lovely looking film, Mum seemed to be okay with it, nothing too nasty or shocking, smooth as a latte. Cavill looks like the best Bond that never was, a real missed opportunity as he's approaching his early prime just as Bond is getting to grips with Spectre in the next film while Craig is knocking on. He even has that comma of hair unlike any of the other actors. His American accent is impeccable, as is Hammer's for the Russian agent.

    Plenty of nods to Bond, esp the opening Berlin Wall escape, far more entertaining and visual (though sillier too) than that of The Living Daylights. Overall, a lovely looking film.

    For all that, it is also, it has to be said, a bit crap. :(

    Cavill may look like Bond, but nothing suggests he would have brought anything new to the table, unlike Craig. It doesn't help that the two main actors have to fake their accents, Cavill being American and Hammer being Russian. You can get away with that the once, as with Downey Jr as Holmes opposite the British Jude Law as Watson, but then it starts to lack authenticity. At least have a European playing the Russian. I mean, in Gone With the Wind you have Brit actors Vivien Leigh and Leslie Howard playing Southerners, and it's okay, not least perhaps because in the 1860s the characters weren't too far off being Brits anyway I guess, but if you had a Brit playing Rhett Butler, it wouldn't matter how good his accent was, it would detract.

    Reminds me a bit of OHMSS, where you have an Aussie bruiser playing a Brit gentleman spy who has to pass himself off as a bookish English baronet, then you have the prim, glacial Diana Rigg cast as the fiery, passionate Italian Tracey, you have the charismatic American wiseguy Telly Savalas cast as the Warsaw-born, cold blooded sociopath Blofeld... then as the fiery, Italian father of Tracey, daft and desperate enough to offer money to any handsome fellow who gives his daughter a good shag, you cast a fellow who looks like a Swiss bureaucrat. All wrong.

    The Avengers big screen version is another example of adventurous - and failed - casting. I mean with cold fish Fiennes as the charming, outgoing Steed, American Uma Thurman as Emma Peel and the heroic Connery as the bad guy.

    UNCLE isn't that bad, but as good as it looks it puts you in mind of another good looking Bond homage, The Tourist with Johnny Depp. It's not as bad as that, it just puts you in mind of it, which is bad enough.

    The problem is that it isn't as funny as it should be, the film doensn't have funny bones. Or much chemistry between the characters. In one scene, the gal makes moves on the Russian guy, with no build up of sexual tension before that at all. So you just think, well, she is obv fooling him, setting him up, but it appears not. ?:) Later, Solo is intensely relaxed, not helping at all, when his partner is about to be killed by gun toting maniacs in a speedboat, but it just isn't funny, just obnoxious and faintly mad. It's only later you realise it as meant to be funny.

    It may look good, but so does a Stella Artois commercial and I'm not sure I'd want to sit through two hours of that either. Part of the problem is that in the series, Solo and Ilya seem to be mates, and that lends a feeling of bonhomie towards it all, whereas here Ilya is a different character, more like Arnie in Red Heat, and they are generally rivals, so we've seen it all before.

    I enjoyed UNCLE, but it seems that without a funky theme tune, a great brauvara opening by Brian de Palma or Tom Cruise's star power and commitment, it is unlikely to become a franchise to rival Mission: Impossible. The fact it is set in the 1960s rather than updating it may be a snag too, it feels like those Bond novels that revisit the 1960s, it may not work as a period piece the way Holmes does.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    {[] Really nice review NP, informative and funny. :))
    I haven't seen TMFU, I was put off by the trailer, which
    to me at least, made it look very silly. :# most reviews
    for it are mild to Lukewarm to say the least, even from
    those who liked it. So I'll wait until the DVD release. ;)
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I thought the Film was average. It will be interesting to see if there's going to be a Follow up.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    BTW, Spectre is showing at the Imax, but I understand that unlike Skyfall, it's not an Imax presentation is that right? I mean, the screen won't suddenly go deep the way it does with M:I 4 or The Dark Knight?

    Still bemused that Skyfall isn't available in the same ratio as the IMAX, after all isn't that how the director or cinematographer originally devised it it? I would have thought there would be a market, albeit it would seem the opposite of those letterbox videos us fans used to fork out for in the 1990s...
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  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited September 2015
    Cavill looks like the best Bond that never was, a real missed opportunity as he's approaching his early prime just as Bond is getting to grips with Spectre in the next film while Craig is knocking on.

    Cavill may look like Bond, but nothing suggests he would have brought anything new to the table, unlike Craig.


    The notion a rather wooden or flat actor like Cavill would be the best Bond ever - a tad ridiculous or hyperbolic. Just my opinion, of course. I think Man from Uncle is good evidence to suggest Cavill should never become Bond. Well, not without some acting lessons first. He's never had any. Craig studied for three years!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Guess he means in looks but nothing else :)
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  • alexeberlinalexeberlin Posts: 104MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    Cavill looks like the best Bond that never was, a real missed opportunity as he's approaching his early prime just as Bond is getting to grips with Spectre in the next film while Craig is knocking on.

    Cavill may look like Bond, but nothing suggests he would have brought anything new to the table, unlike Craig.


    The notion a rather wooden or flat actor like Cavill would be the best Bond ever - a tad ridiculous or hyperbolic. Just my opinion, of course. I think Man from Uncle is good evidence to suggest Cavill should never become Bond. Well, not without some acting lessons first. He's never had any. Craig studied for three years!

    Roger Moore went to RADA, which makes your point invalid.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    Cavill looks like the best Bond that never was, a real missed opportunity as he's approaching his early prime just as Bond is getting to grips with Spectre in the next film while Craig is knocking on.

    Cavill may look like Bond, but nothing suggests he would have brought anything new to the table, unlike Craig.


    The notion a rather wooden or flat actor like Cavill would be the best Bond ever - a tad ridiculous or hyperbolic. Just my opinion, of course. I think Man from Uncle is good evidence to suggest Cavill should never become Bond. Well, not without some acting lessons first. He's never had any. Craig studied for three years!

    Roger Moore went to RADA, which makes your point invalid.
    Have you seen the Man From UNCLE?

    Have you seen The Man who Haunted Himself? Roger Moore can act. He's just not a particularly versatile actor.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Alongside The Wild Geese, TMWHH is one of Moores best non- Bond Films -{
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Alongside The Wild Geese, TMWHH is one of Moores best non- Bond Films -{

    Moore's first scene in the The Wild Geese showed a tough side of Moore that we would only see again in Octopussy. The rest of the film though hardly had Moore do anything. It's like they wanted to fit him in but didn't have a part for him.
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  • alexeberlinalexeberlin Posts: 104MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    bonded123 wrote:





    The notion a rather wooden or flat actor like Cavill would be the best Bond ever - a tad ridiculous or hyperbolic. Just my opinion, of course. I think Man from Uncle is good evidence to suggest Cavill should never become Bond. Well, not without some acting lessons first. He's never had any. Craig studied for three years!

    Roger Moore went to RADA, which makes your point invalid.
    Have you seen the Man From UNCLE?

    Have you seen The Man who Haunted Himself? Roger Moore can act. He's just not a particularly versatile actor.

    TMWHH is a competent performance BY ROGER MOORE STANDARDS. That is faint praise.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    I meant that Cavill has the looks, which is a blessed relief because imo Craig's looks are very variable, he looks good in the Esquire shoot now out, but often looks rubbish. But then, while I wouldn't say Cavill is a bad actor exactly, he still lacks that certain something. TBH I felt the same about seeing Lazenby as Bond, in the safe scene he looks great, and doesn't act bad either, but the cumulative scenes don't lend him anything.

    Saw Brosnan in a remake of Around the World in 80 Days which was hard to place, must have been the Remington Steel era. He was not exactly bad, his acting hit the right notes, it was just that he was playing on an inferior pianoforte... Nothing he can do about it.

    Cavill in UNCLE makes the mistake that Ben Stiller's character in Tropic of Thunder made. Stiller plays an on the skids actor whose previous film, an Oscar-baiting weepie about a fella with learning difficulties, tanked at the box office. Another actor, played by Robert Downey Jr (him again), praises his performance but then chides him for a fatal mistake: 'You went the full retard... Tom Hanks got an Oscar for Forrest Gump, but he hung out with President Johnson and became table tennis champion. That aint so retarded. Hoffman got an Oscar for Rain Man, but he is great with numbers and goes to Vegas. That aint so retarded. You... you went the full retard...' :D

    Cavill... he goes the Full Cool. You could do that in the 1960s, but not now. Think about it. The X-Men are outcast mutants, and their superpower might just as much be hindrance as a gift. Not really got into The Avengers, but they all seem a bit messed up, I mean who would want to be the Hulk? And Iron Man clearly has issues. Batman, say no more. Even Superman, played by Cavill, is a refugee in a new hell because he looks great but from a modern perspective, can't get laid cos surely he's an alien and there is no Supergirl. And Bond today has his issues, as Craig is happy enough to outline in this month's Esquire interview. An orphan, not married or settled, a killer, no friends and so on.

    Cavill's cool Napoleon Solo doesn't fit any of this, though it wouldn't matter if the writers sent him up a bit, like Jean Dujardin's spy agent from a few years back. So he comes across as a bit bland and obnoxious. Just as Alec Baldwin only got great when he played rotters, and you could slightly say the same of Brozzer, so Cavill might be better playing bad guys.
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    I meant that Cavill has the looks, which is a blessed relief because imo Craig's looks are very variable, he looks good in the Esquire shoot now out, but often looks rubbish. But then, while I wouldn't say Cavill is a bad actor exactly, he still lacks that certain something. TBH I felt the same about seeing Lazenby as Bond, in the safe scene he looks great, and doesn't act bad either, but the cumulative scenes don't lend him anything.

    Saw Brosnan in a remake of Around the World in 80 Days which was hard to place, must have been the Remington Steel era. He was not exactly bad, his acting hit the right notes, it was just that he was playing on an inferior pianoforte... Nothing he can do about it.

    Cavill in UNCLE makes the mistake that Ben Stiller's character in Tropic of Thunder made. Stiller plays an on the skids actor whose previous film, an Oscar-baiting weepie about a fella with learning difficulties, tanked at the box office. Another actor, played by Robert Downey Jr (him again), praises his performance but then chides him for a fatal mistake: 'You went the full retard... Tom Hanks got an Oscar for Forrest Gump, but he hung out with President Johnson and became table tennis champion. That aint so retarded. Hoffman got an Oscar for Rain Man, but he is great with numbers and goes to Vegas. That aint so retarded. You... you went the full retard...' :D

    Cavill... he goes the Full Cool. You could do that in the 1960s, but not now. Think about it. The X-Men are outcast mutants, and their superpower might just as much be hindrance as a gift. Not really got into The Avengers, but they all seem a bit messed up, I mean who would want to be the Hulk? And Iron Man clearly has issues. Batman, say no more. Even Superman, played by Cavill, is a refugee in a new hell because he looks great but from a modern perspective, can't get laid cos surely he's an alien and there is no Supergirl. And Bond today has his issues, as Craig is happy enough to outline in this month's Esquire interview. An orphan, not married or settled, a killer, no friends and so on.

    Cavill's cool Napoleon Solo doesn't fit any of this, though it wouldn't matter if the writers sent him up a bit, like Jean Dujardin's spy agent from a few years back. So he comes across as a bit bland and obnoxious. Just as Alec Baldwin only got great when he played rotters, and you could slightly say the same of Brozzer, so Cavill might be better playing bad guys.

    "Stiller went the full retard?" I take offense to that statement...particularly to Ben Stiller :)) Kidding, I love the guy and relate to his characters a lot.

    Regarding Cavill's "full cool" Napoleon Solo, I agree, he's too pretty for this cruel world of today. It's just ironic that the qualities that made Bond a household name in the 60s to the mass movie-going population around the world, transcending the limited fandom of the Fleming books, are now considered boring and passe. As I've said a few times already, the Bond of today is the realization of what Lazenby sort of predicted around the time he quit, that Bond was out of touch with the times considering that public tastes shifted over to Easy Rider.

    To survive, I suppose, Bond needs to mirror the tastes of whatever is current and now it seems it's (again) being the un-pretty anti-hero. It's the coming of age, when you compare for example how people are more dressed down today compared to when Bond was in vogue, because as much as I personally would love to present myself as "full cool," reality presents a complicated challenge for actually pulling that of...and similarly that, I feel, is how everyone else feels; "embrace your imperfections and flaunt it," hence why we now have this sloppy, dressed down culture (of which I'm a part of :p )
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    Hi Superado. By Stiller going the full retard, I am of course referring to this scene... :D

    Never Go The Full Retard
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    I meant that Cavill has the looks, which is a blessed relief because imo Craig's looks are very variable, he looks good in the Esquire shoot now out, but often looks rubbish. But then, while I wouldn't say Cavill is a bad actor exactly, he still lacks that certain something. TBH I felt the same about seeing Lazenby as Bond, in the safe scene he looks great, and doesn't act bad either, but the cumulative scenes don't lend him anything.

    Saw Brosnan in a remake of Around the World in 80 Days which was hard to place, must have been the Remington Steel era. He was not exactly bad, his acting hit the right notes, it was just that he was playing on an inferior pianoforte... Nothing he can do about it.

    Cavill in UNCLE makes the mistake that Ben Stiller's character in Tropic of Thunder made. Stiller plays an on the skids actor whose previous film, an Oscar-baiting weepie about a fella with learning difficulties, tanked at the box office. Another actor, played by Robert Downey Jr (him again), praises his performance but then chides him for a fatal mistake: 'You went the full retard... Tom Hanks got an Oscar for Forrest Gump, but he hung out with President Johnson and became table tennis champion. That aint so retarded. Hoffman got an Oscar for Rain Man, but he is great with numbers and goes to Vegas. That aint so retarded. You... you went the full retard...' :D

    Cavill... he goes the Full Cool. You could do that in the 1960s, but not now. Think about it. The X-Men are outcast mutants, and their superpower might just as much be hindrance as a gift. Not really got into The Avengers, but they all seem a bit messed up, I mean who would want to be the Hulk? And Iron Man clearly has issues. Batman, say no more. Even Superman, played by Cavill, is a refugee in a new hell because he looks great but from a modern perspective, can't get laid cos surely he's an alien and there is no Supergirl. And Bond today has his issues, as Craig is happy enough to outline in this month's Esquire interview. An orphan, not married or settled, a killer, no friends and so on.

    Cavill's cool Napoleon Solo doesn't fit any of this, though it wouldn't matter if the writers sent him up a bit, like Jean Dujardin's spy agent from a few years back. So he comes across as a bit bland and obnoxious. Just as Alec Baldwin only got great when he played rotters, and you could slightly say the same of Brozzer, so Cavill might be better playing bad guys.

    If Cavil can make Craig look dynamic, Cavil must be really bad.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    Not sure I said that, however Craig does have a stillness, a presence about him even though Cavill is more extrovert.
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    Hi Superado. By Stiller going the full retard, I am of course referring to this scene... :D

    Never Go The Full Retard

    Yes, I love that scene and the whole movie! Totally un-PC, but who cares? It was fun. Looking at it now, Steve Coogan, who I only discovered this year for his TSWLM opening scene paraphrase as Alan Partrige on YouTube, played the director!
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  • eric7064eric7064 USAPosts: 344MI6 Agent
    I highly doubt EON picks Cavill as next Bond because he is the face of another HUGE franchise. That alone says it won't be him.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I just noticed that The man from uncle has already
    left the local omniplex cinema. Now that was a very short
    run. MI5 is still going. :))
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  • alexeberlinalexeberlin Posts: 104MI6 Agent
    I just noticed that The man from uncle has already
    left the local omniplex cinema. Now that was a very short
    run. MI5 is still going. :))

    serious question, what went so wrong with your life that you take pleasure in mocking a film that you haven't even seen. You sound like an obnoxious five year old. I don't feel the need to pour scorn on Blofeld Begins when it opens.

    BTW The Man From UNCLE is still playing at all the cinemas near me
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I just noticed that The man from uncle has already
    left the local omniplex cinema. Now that was a very short
    run. MI5 is still going. :))

    serious question, what went so wrong with your life that you take pleasure in mocking a film that you haven't even seen. You sound like an obnoxious five year old. I don't feel the need to pour scorn on Blofeld Begins when it opens.

    BTW The Man From UNCLE is still playing at all the cinemas near me
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