Is Man from UNCLE making EON Nervous?

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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Watched Uncle and MI last night on blueray( did not see either at cinema) have to say I enjoyed them both more than Spectre and I think Cavill would make a great replacement for Craig and there is no golden rule to say an actor can't be in more than one succesful franchise, any things possible in the movies( who would have thought a short blond haired guy would play 007).Tbh not really a fan of watching films at the cinema so will rewatch Spectre when it comes out on DVD and May change my mind. Kings man is my spy movie of the year though :)
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    I think Cavill would make a great replacement for Craig and there is no golden rule to say an actor can't be in more than one succesful franchise

    UNCLE wasnt successful anyhow -{

    Going to finally watch it this week
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I really enjoyed Kingsman, as it came from the team that made Kick Ass, I
    Knew what to expect, and thoroughly enjoyed it. :) same with MI5, a great
    Action film, with a few great laughs. Sadly I was looking forward to The Man
    From UNCLE, as I loved the old TV show and films ( from repeats on bbc2).
    Really wanted to like it, but sadly it didn't do it for me :# . I'll give it another
    Go on Bluray, as I may have been a bit harsh on it on my first viewing.
    I might be the only one who thinks this but ........ There is something very
    Odd with H Cavill's jaw line, he reminds me of Stan from American Dad.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    I think Cavill would make a great replacement for Craig and there is no golden rule to say an actor can't be in more than one succesful franchise

    UNCLE wasnt successful anyhow -{

    But Superman was successful. EON tends to look for actors for Bond who don't at first command a-list salaries. I'm not sure if Cavill is there yet, but he's much closer than Craig was when he became Bond.
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Thanks Matt S I was referring to Superman franchise ( glad you got it) and I think Cavill would take a smaller salary to play Bond tbh -{
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Always thought GL was a bit odd looking arouned the jaw TP, still made a great Bond IMO though -{
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    I have never fully understood the argument that EON avoids well known actors due to cost as the films themselves are very profitable. The franchise is very much blue chip since the reboot so if they do avoid names it may be for other reasons besides being cheap. They tend to use B listers and make them into stars. I think it may have more to do with control over their product as they have a keen sense of ownership. Of course as an actors tenure progresses this can change. Daniel seems to have had more input than any previous Bonds and is now an exec Producer no less.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Whether or not salary is an issue, I think Cavill being Superman is the biggest issue. Cubby didn't want Brosnan playing Bond and Remington Steele at the same time. And I don't think EON would want to share its star now with another huge film series.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Last Bond in tights was Tim Dalton so Henry might be OK too. :D
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    I think Cavill would make a great replacement for Craig and there is no golden rule to say an actor can't be in more than one succesful franchise

    UNCLE wasnt successful anyhow -{

    But Superman was successful. EON tends to look for actors for Bond who don't at first command a-list salaries. I'm not sure if Cavill is there yet, but he's much closer than Craig was when he became Bond.

    Of course - was referring to UNCLE as a spy franchise since more relevant to Bond. I guess this was supposed to be one of many?

    Would EON pick him? After all he was behind DC in the pecking order for CR was he not?
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Last Bond in tights was Tim Dalton so Henry might be OK too. :D
    :)) :))
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    I have never fully understood the argument that EON avoids well known actors due to cost as the films themselves are very profitable. The franchise is very much blue chip since the reboot so if they do avoid names it may be for other reasons besides being cheap. They tend to use B listers and make them into stars. I think it may have more to do with control over their product as they have a keen sense of ownership. Of course as an actors tenure progresses this can change. Daniel seems to have had more input than any previous Bonds and is now an exec Producer no less.

    I think your correct. I imagine continuity is a huge factor and more likely to get longer term comitment from a B lister then an A lister which is better for the series to some extent. Imagine Bond changing each film - would be frustrating
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  • Robbo88Robbo88 Newcastle, England.Posts: 253MI6 Agent
    I think Cavill would do a fine job. Have you saw him now? He looks completely different for his new movie "Sand castle."
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    He also pulled out of a film called Sutton based on the Ducan Falconer novels about an SBS commando which I believe he would have be great in ( his brothers are marine commandos)not sure of the reason but have heard he was unhappy with the script, good job he was'nt signed up to do QOS then( kidding Sir Miles) :))
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    My mistake the film was called Stratton not Sutten 8-)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Nobody's perfect .......... Well almost nobody ! ;)
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    Cavill doesn't have much mystery does he? In terms of his narrative.
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    :)) indeed TP. Have you watched Spy with Jason Statham and Jude Law, very funny -{
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes very funny :)) Statham sends up his Hardman image :D
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    So I finally watched U.N.C.L.E. last night

    Overall I enjoyed it as it was fun in a lot of way and hope a sequel surfaces eventually despite it not setting the box office on fire.

    I actually thought Cavill was ok but def wouldn't want him as Bond - Hammer was easily the star of the movie for me!!

    As many said before - its a great looking movie
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  • Markyb64Markyb64 Posts: 86MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    So I finally watched U.N.C.L.E. last night

    Overall I enjoyed it as it was fun in a lot of way and hope a sequel surfaces eventually despite it not setting the box office on fire.

    I actually thought Cavill was ok but def wouldn't want him as Bond - Hammer was easily the star of the movie for me!!

    As many said before - its a great looking movie
    Totally agree..the way Guy Ritchie fimed it , really made it feel like you were watching " a sixties spy movie" plus the soundtrack was outstanding (almost but not quite bordering on Barryesque music dare I say!) In fact I ordered it next day online...the composer Daniel Pemberton...a future Bond composer :v
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,541MI6 Agent
    Beautifully shot. But it was an awful film. Dead boring, I couldn't wait for the end to get out. Just tried re-watching it. Made it about an hour in. Get's worse with the second viewing. Such a dull film.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Oddly my opinion has changed slightly on my second viewing, it's
    still not a fantastic film but I did enjoy it more. Second time around,
    and hope they get at least a second film. :)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    I only want a second film if they bring back U.N.C.L.E. What bothered me the most about the film is that there wasn't even U.N.C.L.E.! It didn't deserve the to be named after the television series.
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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 3,013MI6 Agent
    edited January 2016
    I enjoyed The Man From UNCLE movie. I know the original format only from my familiarity with the extended, movie versions that were repeatedly broadcast on TV when I was a kid. Although other posters have pointed out the details of how this new movie departs from the original, it does seem to me to have a similar tone to what I remember: quirky, and quirkily at variance from Bond.

    Cavill's vocal performance as Napoleon Solo is well judged: his vocal style is half way between Robert Vaughn and Mike Brady of The Brady Bunch; the epitome of sixties smooth. The period mise en scene and stylings are satisfying, and the exquisite 60s-style score is often Barryesque (as close to the score for The Ipcress File as to the Bonds). Indeed, this retro setting is the one attribute of the UNCLE film which makes it stand out from the Bonds, which have always opted for contemporary settings. The only way we ever get to enjoy a spectacle of Bond in the 60s is by watching the Bond films made in the 60s... though I thought that Tarantino's (rejected) offer in the 2000s to make CR as a period film was an interesting/exciting one.
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