Frugal suit alternatives

mrgatsby

If you're not a brand whore these Hugo Boss suits are really nice. -{

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/boss/the-james-sharp-modern-fit-virgin-wool-suit/hbna50230500.html?cgid=21001&dwvar_hbna50230500_color=030_Grey#gclid=Cj0KEQjwsb-vBRCLj7TvqpGx_MoBEiQALgFGni3T3t5dAHawy_zhabsvM9FFLtuxxqwxg6NFbkvjdiQaAg0t8P8HAQ&start=1

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/%27t-howard%2Fcourt%27-regular-fit%2C-italian-virgin-wool-suit/hbna50293402.html?cgid=21001&dwvar_hbna50293402_color=021_Dark%20Grey#prefn1=fit&prefn2=pattern&prefv1=Regular+Fit&prefv2=Stripes&sz=96&gclid=Cj0KEQjwsb-vBRCLj7TvqpGx_MoBEiQALgFGni3T3t5dAHawy_zhabsvM9FFLtuxxqwxg6NFbkvjdiQaAg0t8P8HAQ&start=1

MrSwinderman

For frugal, still very high... Especially for off the rack sized

McQueen

I would not encourage those Boss suits, especially at that price. Fused and sub-par fabrics

cmdr_bong

mrgatsby wrote:

If you're not a brand whore

OK

mrgatsby wrote:

these Hugo Boss suits are really nice. -{

HUH? ?:)

Bond_James_Bond

Are you on commision?

Peppermill

cmdr_bong wrote:

mrgatsby wrote:

If you're not a brand whore

OK

mrgatsby wrote:

these Hugo Boss suits are really nice. -{

HUH? ?:)

)

Peppermill

Bond_James_Bond wrote:

Are you on commision?

Or meth?

MrSwinderman

I do like Indochino's suits for the price. Made to order and great quality. Never bought one yet but so many options.

I've read the first one is never perfect and will take a littler altercations which they pay for! But after you change your measurements the next suit is perfect. Just a thought for you guys.

Matt S

MrSwinderman wrote:

I do like Indochino's suits for the price. Made to order and great quality. Never bought one yet but so many options.

I've read the first one is never perfect and will take a littler altercations which they pay for! But after you change your measurements the next suit is perfect. Just a thought for you guys.

I've seen many photos of Indochino suits online. Not one of them looked acceptable. They were always beyond alteration.

MrSwinderman

Matt S wrote:

MrSwinderman wrote:

I do like Indochino's suits for the price. Made to order and great quality. Never bought one yet but so many options.

I've read the first one is never perfect and will take a littler altercations which they pay for! But after you change your measurements the next suit is perfect. Just a thought for you guys.

I've seen many photos of Indochino suits online. Not one of them looked acceptable. They were always beyond alteration.

http://georgehahn.com/a-look-at-the-nanotech-gray-twill-suit-from-indochino/

Matt S

MrSwinderman wrote:

Matt S wrote:

MrSwinderman wrote:

I do like Indochino's suits for the price. Made to order and great quality. Never bought one yet but so many options.

I've read the first one is never perfect and will take a littler altercations which they pay for! But after you change your measurements the next suit is perfect. Just a thought for you guys.

I've seen many photos of Indochino suits online. Not one of them looked acceptable. They were always beyond alteration.

http://georgehahn.com/a-look-at-the-nanotech-gray-twill-suit-from-indochino/

Definitely not impressed.

MrSwinderman

Matt S wrote:

MrSwinderman wrote:

Matt S wrote:

I've seen many photos of Indochino suits online. Not one of them looked acceptable. They were always beyond alteration.

http://georgehahn.com/a-look-at-the-nanotech-gray-twill-suit-from-indochino/

Definitely not impressed.

They're not perfect but for the price and all the options it's definitely something I have used and have had success. I only have one and I spent about $20 on alterations and it looks good now. This guy has like at least 15 or 16 of them and they all look good. I'm just saying it's a decent product for the $

Peppermill

I can't agree that the suit looks good in the pictures. A strange fit, tight/loose in the wrong places and I don't like the low armholes.

I can understand that not everyone can afford a $ 5000,- suit, I am one of those people, but what I can’t understand is buying 15 suits like this when that money can be used to buy a few good quality made to measure or bespoke suits that look a lot better.

MFisher

If you have a Bachrach store nearby go check out their made to measure option.. I had a suit made by bringing in pics of the PTS suit from QOS.. Cost was around $650... They have books and books of material to browse at different price points..

mrgatsby

cmdr_bong wrote:

mrgatsby wrote:

If you're not a brand whore

OK

mrgatsby wrote:

these Hugo Boss suits are really nice. -{

HUH? ?:)

HA ha, Point made. I was however comapring HB to TF regarding the pricing. Sure TF may use slightly better fabric but that's it. The constuction and craftmanship is the same. Go check out a HB store and you'll see what I mean.

Peppermill

Most, if not all, of Hugo Boss suits are 'fused' rather than 'canvassed', saying that Hugo Boss, even remotely, compares to a high quality company like Tom Ford means you either have no idea what you are talking about or are a Hugo Boss salesman.

Now I might sound harsh but I'm not trying to insult you. I just think HB is quite overpriced if you compare it to other brands that offer a much higher quality (at $ 1000,- you can get a great MTM suit made for you) for the same price or comparable quality at a much lower price point.

I have a very nice black Hugo Boss overcoat that I wear in winter but I wouldn't say it compares to a coat that costs 5 times more.

Matt S

Peppermill wrote:

Most, if not all, of Hugo Boss suits are 'fused' rather than 'canvassed', saying that Hugo Boss, even remotely, compares to a high quality company like Tom Ford means you either have no idea what you are talking about or are a Hugo Boss salesman.

Now I might sound harsh but I'm not trying to insult you. I just think HB is quite overpriced if you compare it to other brands that offer a much higher quality (at $ 1000,- you can get a great MTM suit made for you) for the same price or comparable quality at a much lower price point.

I have a very nice black Hugo Boss overcoat that I wear in winter but I wouldn't say it compares to a coat that costs 5 times more.

Hugo Boss suits are equivalent in quality to suits that retail for around half the price that they cost.

Enjoying Death

Here in Canada you can buy bespoke suits from Surmesur for a lot less than the "name" brands;

https://youtu.be/x0xAaKUuax0

https://www.surmesur.com/home

mrgatsby

Peppermill wrote:

Most, if not all, of Hugo Boss suits are 'fused' rather than 'canvassed', saying that Hugo Boss, even remotely, compares to a high quality company like Tom Ford means you either have no idea what you are talking about or are a Hugo Boss salesman.

Now I might sound harsh but I'm not trying to insult you. I just think HB is quite overpriced if you compare it to other brands that offer a much higher quality (at $ 1000,- you can get a great MTM suit made for you) for the same price or comparable quality at a much lower price point.

I have a very nice black Hugo Boss overcoat that I wear in winter but I wouldn't say it compares to a coat that costs 5 times more.

peppermill, I do not work for HB and i'm well aware of the fact that most of the suits they are producing are fused. Canvassed suits will alway's look better and more natural then a fused suit. Imo though, fused suits are a great alternative if you can't aford to purchase a TF. Hence the title of this thread,
''Frugal suit alternatives'' 8-)

Peppermill

But a $ 1000,- is not really frugal is it? Compared to TF it is a lot cheaper, but that would make a Porsche a frugal car compared to an Aston Martin.

In one of your posts you say: "The constuction and craftmanship is the same." Well, IMHO it isn't. The construction is totally different.

All I'm trying to say is, for that amount of money you can do a lot better than HB.

Matt S

Peppermill wrote:

But a $ 1000,- is not really frugal is it? Compared to TF it is a lot cheaper, but that would make a Porsche a frugal car compared to an Aston Martin.

In one of your posts you say: "The constuction and craftmanship is the same." Well, IMHO it isn't. The construction is totally different.

All I'm trying to say is, for that amount of money you can do a lot better than HB.

I second this.

mrgatsby wrote:

Sure TF may use slightly better fabric but that's it. The constuction and craftmanship is the same. Go check out a HB store and you'll see what I mean.

There's no truth in this whatsoever. The quality of a Tom Ford suit is among the best in the world. The quality of a HB suit is equivalent to the average high street suit. Tom Ford is up there with Brioni for quality, but the constuction is considerably different.

Miles Messervy

Samuelsohn is among the best values out there for an RTW suit. In the States you can find them priced quite reasonably given the quality, so long as you have access to a decent menswear store that carries them.

cheld

Miles Messervy wrote:

Samuelsohn is among the best values out there for an RTW suit. In the States you can find them priced quite reasonably given the quality, so long as you have access to a decent menswear store that carries them.

Samuelsohn makes the house brand for Paul Stuart, Nordstrom's "J.P. Tilford" line and many others. Pricing is favorable to some of the "entry-level canvassed" Italian brands such as Canali and Corneliani because import duties are lower on Canadian products than on those from the E.U.

cheld

mrgatsby wrote:

If you're not a brand whore these Hugo Boss suits are really nice. -{

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/boss/the-james-sharp-modern-fit-virgin-wool-suit/hbna50230500.html?cgid=21001&dwvar_hbna50230500_color=030_Grey#gclid=Cj0KEQjwsb-vBRCLj7TvqpGx_MoBEiQALgFGni3T3t5dAHawy_zhabsvM9FFLtuxxqwxg6NFbkvjdiQaAg0t8P8HAQ&start=1

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/%27t-howard%2Fcourt%27-regular-fit%2C-italian-virgin-wool-suit/hbna50293402.html?cgid=21001&dwvar_hbna50293402_color=021_Dark%20Grey#prefn1=fit&prefn2=pattern&prefv1=Regular+Fit&prefv2=Stripes&sz=96&gclid=Cj0KEQjwsb-vBRCLj7TvqpGx_MoBEiQALgFGni3T3t5dAHawy_zhabsvM9FFLtuxxqwxg6NFbkvjdiQaAg0t8P8HAQ&start=1

Buttoning point too high, jacket too short, trouser rise too low.

At that price point you can get canvassed MTM with equal-or-better fabric, some custom touches, and most importantly, a suit that fits.

Jag

Matt S wrote:

Peppermill wrote:

But a $ 1000,- is not really frugal is it? Compared to TF it is a lot cheaper, but that would make a Porsche a frugal car compared to an Aston Martin.

In one of your posts you say: "The constuction and craftmanship is the same." Well, IMHO it isn't. The construction is totally different.

All I'm trying to say is, for that amount of money you can do a lot better than HB.

I second this.

mrgatsby wrote:

Sure TF may use slightly better fabric but that's it. The constuction and craftmanship is the same. Go check out a HB store and you'll see what I mean.

There's no truth in this whatsoever. The quality of a Tom Ford suit is among the best in the world. The quality of a HB suit is equivalent to the average high street suit. Tom Ford is up there with Brioni for quality, but the constuction is considerably different.

Quality and price aside, those Brioni suits on Brosnan looked perfect. Tom Ford's have never been up to the same look.

HalfMonk HalfHitman

The online made-to-measure sites are starting to get wise to the Bond stuff...

http://www.oliverwicks.com/category/the-spywear-collection?utm_source=Oliver+Wicks+Newsletter&utm_campaign=8307e22a27-THE_SPY_WEAR_COLLECTION&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_453ce8790b-8307e22a27-97625761