Explanation: What is going on in the beginning of OHMSS?
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I've watched this movie a number of times. I just watched OHMSS today. I still have no idea why Tracy is walking into the ocean. Why does Bond think she's in immediate danger? Why is she unconscious when he brings her back to the beach? 
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She's at the end of her tether.
She has nowhere else to go. Later that night she plays gambling with no money. And Draco's men are there to make sure she doesn't do anything rash
Bond assesses her state of mind quickly and saves her from drowning herself- he's interrupted by Draco's men, who as broadshoulder says are there to keep an eye on her (although they should've moved more quickly when they saw what was happening).
Fleming describes Tracy as a 'Bird with a Wing down.'
Bond saves her and his romance with her helps her to gain control over her life.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
a tragic burnt out character, so that Bond ( Knight in shining armor) can save her, not
only from Physical harm, but from the Psychological trauma, of her past life. In the book
she had also lost a child. I think it's a lovely little tableau, and straight from Fleming.
It doesn't help that on some prints it looks like twilight and a nice time to go for a bathe, when it should be dawn and look brittle and cold, and less open to a generous interpretation.
The whole Draco's men thing doesn't work for me, I mean, he kills one of them doesn't he? Things are bound to be a bit frosty after that, but Bond doesn't kill one of them in the book.
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They were tailing Tracey all the time. Marc Ange was desperately worried for her and kept a watch on her.
Its twilight. Why should it be dawn?
I'd guess that they simply wanted to see some wet T-Shirt and didn't want to ruin that moment
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It's dawn in the book.
The movie is not the book; if you want the book, go read the book.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
And from the film, I would have expected Bond to have been awake all night. The sun would have set in the evening by the time Bond put on his dinner suit (he wouldn't have put it on before 6).
sadly DigificWriter without the book, there'd be no film. I also think
Fleming's writing should command a little respect, at least.
How do you know Bond wasn't awake all night, He does gamble into the early
Hours, You know. 3 o'clock in the morning sometimes.
If a film needs to rely on its source material to be explained, it's a bad film. A film stands alone from the book as its own piece of work. There's no disrespect to Fleming in this, but unless the book is a novelisation of the film, they are not one in the same.
Doesn't matter. An adaptation of something is, by the very nature of what that word actually means, going to be its own thing that is separate from the thing from which it's been adapted.
To change certain things when adapting something from one medium to another isn't 'disrespecting the source material'; it's simply doing what one needs to do in actually making an adaptation.
If you make a movie, television series, comic book, radio play, theater play, etc. that is exactly the same as the source material from which it is derived, you're not making an adaptation of said source material, you're simply translating that source material into the medium in which you're working.
The idea that adaptations can't change anything about the thing from which they're being adapted is a ridiculous fallacy that completely misunderstands the entire point of what an adaptation is meant to do and be.
?:) A bit hostile, isn't that?
Ironically, OHMSS benefits (to my mind) by being closer to its source material than possibly any other Bond film...and it's one of the things that makes it a revered classic in retrospect, if not a huge success when it came out, because of how far Bond had strayed by the time of YOLT's hollowed-out volcano.
I can testify that adapting a novel into a screenplay is the most difficult thing I've ever undertaken---the totality of what must be excised to make it work is extremely daunting. Taking the essence of a story in a 350-page (or whatever) novel, and whittling it down to 120 pages or so is NOT for the faint of heart, to say nothing of the loss of internalization, and finding a way to convey ideas visually without cumbersome exposition via dialogue. Writing prose and writing a screenplay are two very different mental muscle groups.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
What an idiot thing to say 8-)
Go and re-read the conversation again before jumping in with hostile comments like that.
DigificWriter, Most of the rest of us can understand it.
So I'll leave the rest of this never ending naval gazing, to the intellectuals of AJB.
I'm off, to find a happier thread where a few fans relish and love the films and Books, and don't
go endlessly blowing the tiniest element out of all proportion. Honestly some seem to relish in
nitpicking, to the extent of making it an Olympic event.
At its most basic, yes. It all boils down to that in the end...
Nobody was complaining. And I was just addressing someone elses comments asking why dawn was mentioned in the first place.
Most of the stuff that I've figured out about the pre-Craig films (specifically about how they relate to each other) has been discovered without actually having seen the vast majority of those films.
In fact, up until I started watching Dr. No last week, Tomorrow Never Dies had been the only pre-Craig Bond film I'd ever actually seen, and most of what I knew about the character had come from either the James Bond Jr. cartoon or from doing research on the franchise.
He can't read.
He's only watching the pictures
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think that explains all we need to know!
I would politely suggest as a prerequisite that you actually watch all of the Bond films and read the original novels before getting into arguments about the specifics of Bondology with seasoned members here.
Never really thought why Tracy became unconscious and I think that's one important detail that has always nagged at me but never bothered to think about more and even dismissed it as faking on her part. So, perhaps because she was extremely distraught at that point to want to end it all. At that moment when Bond saves her, while her mind was processing what was happening to her she then passes out because she should be dead soon but instead she's being carried off by a stranger.