I just walked out of the theater about 30 minutes ago. My first reaction is in agreement with other reviewers who said the pacing was terrible. I found myself staring at my watch at least a dozen times throughout the movie. That's not something I've done with any Bond film in the past. I've liked the different approaches the various actors have taken to the role for a reason. No one was trying to be someone they weren't. This did not feel like the Bond that Craig set sail with. For me, it seemed as if they completely ran out of ideas after Skyfall and have begun to seriously question where they want to take the franchise. M, Q, Tanner and Moneypenny team up to form some half-cocked team of presumed professionals with experience in espionage, but only served to conjure up images of the Scoobie Doo gang trying to solve the mystery of lackluster writing (seriously, that scene where they all banded together at the end... I was waiting to hear 'M' yell... "To the Mystery Wagon gang!!!"). I didn't decide to sign in here just to spout negativity, I just think it's one of the worst Bond films in recent memory. I'd gladly take QoS over this every day of the week on the subject of style, chase scenes, fighting scenes, plot, Bond girls and overall excitement --- and that's saying a lot for QoS. I was wholeheartedly disappointed by Spectre.
I'm going to have to see this movie again to be honest- I made the unfortunate decision of seeing this film with my college roommates, and it kind of ruined the experience for me. They seem to be incapable of shutting up in a movie theatre, and worse, have to go ahead and say towards the Bond vs Blofeld ending in the old MI6 about how terrible the movie is.
I quite honestly, was sucked almost immediately into it and I don't think that 2 and a half hours of film have ever passed so fast for me. I think it's a brilliant movie despite it's flaws, but I will need to see it again to confirm that.
There where a few things that where left a bit unclear for me and I would greatly appreciate it if any of the AJB members would clarify it for me.
1. Mr White's reasoning for leaving Quantum was something I didn't catch very well. He apparently had a change of heart and was trying to locate Blofeld's hideout. How he got thiamin poisoning is also a bit confusing.
2. Blofeld drills Bond inside in order to erase his memory, but why does this fail? It cant simply be Madeleine's love declaration that saves him.
1. He briefly stated his discontent that the group ended up harming women and children - so I guess some evil he could live with but not others
2. My guess is that it was timing - new memory was created and obviously linked to the old foundation just in time that even if the past disappeared he had something at present on which to latch. I think ESB made it clear it was emo memory so bond would have retaned the cold facts about her and her father - a recipe for his sympathies - so even with success he had her at his ear just in time and there was plenty more to retain the connection. I would presume this may also come out in (and u heard it here first) the rest of this new Blofeld trilogy!!!!
The bf doesn't think the procedure completed. Idk.
10/10 BTW. I'm totally floored at how amazing it is
Usually movies after you see it the first time people love them at first, then over time see the flaws and grade it more fairly.
I actually feel spectre might be the opposite. After more and more viewings fans might like what they see or didn't see more after each viewing and might rise in many people's rankings.
I'm going to have to see this movie again to be honest- I made the unfortunate decision of seeing this film with my college roommates, and it kind of ruined the experience for me. They seem to be incapable of shutting up in a movie theatre, and worse, have to go ahead and say towards the Bond vs Blofeld ending in the old MI6 about how terrible the movie is.
I quite honestly, was sucked almost immediately into it and I don't think that 2 and a half hours of film have ever passed so fast for me. I think it's a brilliant movie despite it's flaws, but I will need to see it again to confirm that.
There where a few things that where left a bit unclear for me and I would greatly appreciate it if any of the AJB members would clarify it for me.
1. Mr White's reasoning for leaving Quantum was something I didn't catch very well. He apparently had a change of heart and was trying to locate Blofeld's hideout. How he got thiamin poisoning is also a bit confusing.
2. Blofeld drills Bond inside in order to erase his memory, but why does this fail? It cant simply be Madeleine's love declaration that saves him.
Sorry to hear about your friends wrecking it for you. It is better to see the film twice
Yes, White had a change of heart and wanted to find Blofeld. It was hidden in dialogue which was very confused in the alps in Austria. I would say if Mendes has a weakness his dialogue doesn't stand out. The thiamin poisoning doesn't stand out
Why does Blofelds drilling fail. Nothing to do with a bomb tossed towards him?
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
Going to black after the gunbarrel with "The dead are alive" title card. The gunbarrel looks tacked on at the beginning and not integrated with the film. The title card there adds nothing to the story and just is an distracting pause at the beginning of the film. If the circle expanded into the festival it would have looked so cool.
100% agree, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this.
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edited November 2015
Saw it yesterday. Enjoyable set-pieces but I'm a little frustrated by the overall...
In a way, my misgivings about it are the opposite of my misgivings about Skyfall.
Skyfall was spectacular, beautifully shot, grand, smartly written--until the appearance of Silva, the sad Dark Knight twist, and the messy third act, when the glaring plot holes and stupid attempts to inject depth with banal pop psychology ruined what could have been the best Bond ever.
Spectre is a more even film. But seems to be going though the motions.
More specific misgivings
--"License to kill" shame: I resent the contempt Mendes seems to have for Bond's job--as though we should feel guilty about watching a series about a hired government assassin. If you're ashamed of authoring a movie that glorifies a 00 agent, don't apply for the job of directing a Bond movie! Spoiler alert: the ending, with Bond symbolically giving up his gun and walking towards the girl, pleased the romantic in me. Yet I couldn't help reading it as a restatement of the Skyfall theme, an attempt to make the last ever Bond movie. In short, I've had enough of Mendes telling me that Bond should be over and done with.
--The personal angle: the personal angle was already tired when they used it in Skyfall. Now it's downright stupid. To suggest that the grandest and meanest villain of the franchise is simply motivated by sibling rivalry is disrespectful towards the Bond mythology... We need to go back to villains who are doing evil for profit, not because they have some unresolved mommy or daddy issues.
--Bond goes rogue, again: by the same token, Bond needs to go back to being a professional field agent. Any M worth his salt would have had him demoted to the old registry basement, digitizing old files.
--Information is the new gold: A villain who wants to monopolize information--where have I seen this before? It was newish when Elliot Carver did it. Silva turned it into a cliche. At this point it's just a lazy bit of writing.
--Torture scene: I found this gratuitous; a strange mixture of cruel and camp (the torture device looks goofily complicated, while the torture itself is just bizarre). Luckily, it only looks horrific; the minute he is set free, Bond bounces back from the unbearable pain as though nothing happened. In every way, the opposite of the gritty torture scene in Casino Royale.
Things I liked:
--Q and the gang were pretty awesome.
--The humour and comic relief were just right. Perfectly pitched.
--I didn't expect Madeleine Swann to work as well as she did. Classy. I'm sold.
--PTS: simply spectacular
--Train sequence was gorgeously filmed and the action was fun.
--Great Locations: While the photography was not as luxurious as Skyfall, locations were definitely a highlight. Rome and Mexico, especially, were looking gorgeous, and the villain's lair was a nice touch.
I do agree rather that Mendes - and to some extent Craig - doesn't seem to like Bond that much and both have a left-wing attitude about it. Now, there's nothing wrong with being a lefty in itself, and in the GF novel Bond professes some sympathy for the Cuban rebels for what it's worth, but it doesn't really fit Bond. It's like having a campaigner against gas emissions as producer of Top Gear.
And I feel recent authors of the continuation novels have been like that too (I've not read TM yet).
Incidentally, someone once wrote that the FYEO pts does'nt fit the rest of the movie and it could almost be a dream of Bond's. Now I feel the whole of Spectre could be dismissed as a dream, it has an eerie feel to it, and the lack of other people in the form of extras gives it a lonely feel, like an Edward Hopper painting almost (the train scene in particular).
That's not to diss the film but it would solve problems if in the next film Craig woke up and it was all a dream, foreshadowing the real Spectre gang and the real ESB.
Or maybe things just reboot next time round, like a new kind of Sherlock Holmes, Batman or Spider-Man franchise.
Going to black after the gunbarrel with "The dead are alive" title card.
100% agree, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this.
It's sort of one of those things that modern films do. They throw around a really vague quote about life, death, happiness and such, that seems profound just to instill to the viewer that there's a semblance of a core concept in the movie.
I though, after watching it the caption " The dead are alive" was a nod to
Christoph Waltz character being dead, then alive. The old M being dead yet
in a way still alive ( to do her job). The old service being Dead, yet it comes
alive again to save the day ? only my thoughts.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Going to black after the gunbarrel with "The dead are alive" title card.
100% agree, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this.
It's sort of one of those things that modern films do. They throw around a really vague quote about life, death, happiness and such, that seems profound just to instill to the viewer that there's a semblance of a core concept in the movie.
I've noticed that movies try to be profound when there's really no substance at all.
I though, after watching it the caption " The dead are alive" was a nod to
Christoph Waltz character being dead, then alive. The old M being dead yet
in a way still alive ( to do her job). The old service being Dead, yet it comes
alive again to save the day ? only my thoughts.
I though, after watching it the caption " The dead are alive" was a nod to
Christoph Waltz character being dead, then alive. The old M being dead yet
in a way still alive ( to do her job). The old service being Dead, yet it comes
alive again to save the day ? only my thoughts.
Nice interpretation
+1
I never connected all those plot points. But makes absolute sense to me!
I thought he had no chemistry with Eva Green. Their romance looked very forced to me.
This is where we disagree...I totally believed in the Bond/Lynd relationship...I just don't see anything between Bond/Swann at all... -{
I'm with SirMiles on this one definitely - Bond and Vesper had a great chemistry - I actually believed in Bond falling in love back then. The relationship with Swan doesn't stand a chance but on the other hand remember - Bond never told her that he loves her -{
I think Lucia knew she was a dead woman walking. Even at the funeral with the men following her, she almost seemed to know it then. Obviously when she's home I got the sense that she knew she was walking into her death, maybe I'm wrong but that is what I took. I'm assuming that once her husband died she knew she was going to die as well.
That is accurate. In fact, when Bond saved her, she says that only gives her 5 mins more
I just wrote a very long review but it disappeared after I tried to post it.
Basically it was a good Bond movie but I felt the acting and dialogue were dull and plain throughout.
The pacing was too slow and there was a lack of suspense throughout.
Favourite line: 'Throw that down the toilet'.
The ending in London was the best part by far. Very entertaining. It was good that the movie built up to a strong ending.
C was a great character and felt like the main villain.
The Rome scenes were great.
The Mocorro scenes at Blofeld's lair were the biggest disappointment.
Pre-titles sequence didn't live up to the hype.
Although I liked the song initially, the Titles sequence proved to be one of the worst.
Thinking back to Casino Royale and the Brosnan era, we expect pure entertainment from a 007 movie and this is not what we are getting now which is a real shame.
I hope this is Craig's last 007 movie.
Also, please bring in new producers and writers for the next one.
My review is on post #420. To summarize, Overall, I felt it is a good experience.
However, the movie has the ability to polarize opinions. Looking at many of the reviews here and on IMDB, I get a feeling that Marc Forster would be celebrating in relief )
I am not really sure what to make of the James Bond series anymore. For the last 27 years, the franchise has been on a steady decline. I am not even sure what I saw was a James Bond Movie. The franchise has turned into cinematic equivalent of NFL Europe. The latest film is essentially a carbon copy of Mission Impossible Rouge Nation, in fact, some of shot locations appear to be same. The movies steals from Bill Grainger’s “Code Name November” as well.
The movie opens up in Mexico City on the Day of the Dead, I guess this is supposed to some sort of pun, but any way, the pre-title sequence is not a good as some critics have said. The quality film cause the action scenes to be jerky, somewhat reminds of the scene in last Die Hard movie. Everything is so predictable.
Then back to London where we find out that the 00 section is on the chopping block as this merger between MI-6 and MI-5 is about to take place. Then off to Rome where Bond is trying to hunt down the widow of the man he killed in Mexico City. She is played for 5 minutes by Monica Bellucci.
Bond finally meets the organization. The scene is which we are introduced to Spectre is reminiscent of that of Thunderball and the scene in the novel. Except it is not as good. There does not seem to be any reason for the existence of SPECTRE, we are never told. Then we go this pointless and tedious car chase through the streets of Rome. Bond is reunited with Mr. White from Casino Royale and Quantum where we find out that Mr White has a beautiful daughter played by Léa Seydoux, who seems to have only tight fitting clothing, not that I am complaining. He is living in seclusion and strikes a deal with Bond to have Bond protect his daughter. Léa Seydoux was actually in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. I wonder if this was some sort of inside joke. You Ghost Protocol…Spectre.
After an hour of moaning a groaning by Craig, anti-hero and villain are reunited in some of silliest dialog ever. Bond is tortured (along with audience) and the big hook is dropped. At this point in movie you just want the movie to end and is not impressed with the big revelation with the usual prop. In fact, I am not sure any under 30 will really understand it or care to understand it. The villain played by Christopher Waltz is Solomon Lane is the same character from Rogue Nation.
Again, leave to the writers to screw the film up. This movie lacks originality. It robs the remaining the literary connection to Fleming. Bond is no longer Bond, he is part of the Mission Impossible Force. Q is essentially Benjie. The movie does not seem to have relevance any more to series. This is not fault of the Craig era, but this started somewhere in the Brosnan era.
Craig cannot act. There was an attempt to lighten up the movie with humor, but all of the gags seem to fall flat and are ill timed the weird thing about the movie is that movie is a tribute film, but to whom? Perhaps, the film is Craig last. I wish EON would relinquish control over the movie but whether the movie is bad or good, it is going to make money. The music is good. However, the producers decided to reuse the musical themes established in Skyfall, so there is a lot of rehashed music.
One Star. Which is better than the No Star I gave Skyfall.
"And if I told you that I'm from the Ministry of Defence?" James Bond - The Property of a Lady
--The personal angle: the personal angle was already tired when they used it in Skyfall. Now it's downright stupid. To suggest that the grandest and meanest villain of the franchise is simply motivated by sibling rivalry is disrespectful towards the Bond mythology... We need to go back to villains who are doing evil for profit, not because they have some unresolved mommy or daddy issues.
Bingo!
And that applies to Bond's motives as well.
I left the cinema quite angry ( though I really liked the movie) telling my wife that I am fed up with the elaboration of Bond's childhood, history and inner motives and demons.
Give him a mission which he professionally solves and everybody is happy! {[]
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I'd like more of Bond's early life. The awkward Teens, pimples, long hair,
Bad attitude and being shy round girls ! Blofeld would have a field day
of revenge posting those photos on Face Book.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I am not really sure what to make of the James Bond series anymore. For the last 27 years, the franchise has been on a steady decline.
So no good films since TLD?
The latest film is essentially a carbon copy of Mission Impossible Rouge Nation, in fact, some of shot locations appear to be same.
Let's not forget Rogue Nation was pushed forward from December to July. Would you say Rogue Nation was a copy of SPECTRE if it did come out in December?
Except it is not as good. There does not seem to be any reason for the existence of SPECTRE, we are never told.
Does there need to be a reason? And we can presume it's for people who want to comit Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion and need funding.
I am not sure any under 30 will really understand it or care to understand.
Not even Bond fans under 30 (like myself)? Not everyone born after 1985 is clueless about Bond or movies. And honestly you don't need to have knowledge of the previous films to understand, most people know who Bofeld is.
The villain played by Christopher Waltz is Solomon Lane is the same character from Rogue Nation.
How? They have different motivations and plots.
Q is essentially Benjie.
What, because he's Young and does the gadgets? The current Q is more similar to Desmond Llewlyn than Benji.
I am not really sure what to make of the James Bond series anymore. For the last 27 years, the franchise has been on a steady decline. I am not even sure what I saw was a James Bond Movie. The franchise has turned into cinematic equivalent of NFL Europe. The latest film is essentially a carbon copy of Mission Impossible Rouge Nation, in fact, some of shot locations appear to be same. The movies steals from Bill Grainger’s “Code Name November” as well.
The movie opens up in Mexico City on the Day of the Dead, I guess this is supposed to some sort of pun, but any way, the pre-title sequence is not a good as some critics have said. The quality film cause the action scenes to be jerky, somewhat reminds of the scene in last Die Hard movie. Everything is so predictable.
Then back to London where we find out that the 00 section is on the chopping block as this merger between MI-6 and MI-5 is about to take place. Then off to Rome where Bond is trying to hunt down the widow of the man he killed in Mexico City. She is played for 5 minutes by Monica Bellucci.
Bond finally meets the organization. The scene is which we are introduced to Spectre is reminiscent of that of Thunderball and the scene in the novel. Except it is not as good. There does not seem to be any reason for the existence of SPECTRE, we are never told. Then we go this pointless and tedious car chase through the streets of Rome. Bond is reunited with Mr. White from Casino Royale and Quantum where we find out that Mr White has a beautiful daughter played by Léa Seydoux, who seems to have only tight fitting clothing, not that I am complaining. He is living in seclusion and strikes a deal with Bond to have Bond protect his daughter. Léa Seydoux was actually in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. I wonder if this was some sort of inside joke. You Ghost Protocol…Spectre.
After an hour of moaning a groaning by Craig, anti-hero and villain are reunited in some of silliest dialog ever. Bond is tortured (along with audience) and the big hook is dropped. At this point in movie you just want the movie to end and is not impressed with the big revelation with the usual prop. In fact, I am not sure any under 30 will really understand it or care to understand it. The villain played by Christopher Waltz is Solomon Lane is the same character from Rogue Nation.
Again, leave to the writers to screw the film up. This movie lacks originality. It robs the remaining the literary connection to Fleming. Bond is no longer Bond, he is part of the Mission Impossible Force. Q is essentially Benjie. The movie does not seem to have relevance any more to series. This is not fault of the Craig era, but this started somewhere in the Brosnan era.
Craig cannot act. There was an attempt to lighten up the movie with humor, but all of the gags seem to fall flat and are ill timed the weird thing about the movie is that movie is a tribute film, but to whom? Perhaps, the film is Craig last. I wish EON would relinquish control over the movie but whether the movie is bad or good, it is going to make money. The music is good. However, the producers decided to reuse the musical themes established in Skyfall, so there is a lot of rehashed music.
One Star. Which is better than the No Star I gave Skyfall.
Wowser.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
--The personal angle: the personal angle was already tired when they used it in Skyfall. Now it's downright stupid. To suggest that the grandest and meanest villain of the franchise is simply motivated by sibling rivalry is disrespectful towards the Bond mythology... We need to go back to villains who are doing evil for profit, not because they have some unresolved mommy or daddy issues.
Bingo!
And that applies to Bond's motives as well.
I left the cinema quite angry ( though I really liked the movie) telling my wife that I am fed up with the elaboration of Bond's childhood, history and inner motives and demons.
Give him a mission which he professionally solves and everybody is happy! {[]
Eon be like ' oh this time it's personal and ****,' and I be like, ' oh no not again didn't we just do that? Already?
And Eon be like ' yeah but it's way sussesful and Babs loves it' and I be like ' enough now let it go n move on dude it's just lazy n ting!' And EON be like' I wonder if Bond ever had a Dog...'
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I'm having trouble with some of the hate that is being thrown towards SPECTRE. I loved it. While the ESB personal connection with 007 I could have done without, everything else was top notch. The CGI didn't bother me in the slightest... DC looked relaxed and comfortable in the role (not bored as some othere have said)...and I didn't have an issue with the ending. It's about time that Craig's Bond goes off at the end and has a bit of fun with the girl. For the Craig tenure, I would put this behind CR, but definitely above the dire and non-fun Skyfall.
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1. He briefly stated his discontent that the group ended up harming women and children - so I guess some evil he could live with but not others
2. My guess is that it was timing - new memory was created and obviously linked to the old foundation just in time that even if the past disappeared he had something at present on which to latch. I think ESB made it clear it was emo memory so bond would have retaned the cold facts about her and her father - a recipe for his sympathies - so even with success he had her at his ear just in time and there was plenty more to retain the connection. I would presume this may also come out in (and u heard it here first) the rest of this new Blofeld trilogy!!!!
The bf doesn't think the procedure completed. Idk.
10/10 BTW. I'm totally floored at how amazing it is
I actually feel spectre might be the opposite. After more and more viewings fans might like what they see or didn't see more after each viewing and might rise in many people's rankings.
Sorry to hear about your friends wrecking it for you. It is better to see the film twice
Yes, White had a change of heart and wanted to find Blofeld. It was hidden in dialogue which was very confused in the alps in Austria. I would say if Mendes has a weakness his dialogue doesn't stand out. The thiamin poisoning doesn't stand out
Why does Blofelds drilling fail. Nothing to do with a bomb tossed towards him?
100% agree, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this.
In a way, my misgivings about it are the opposite of my misgivings about Skyfall.
Skyfall was spectacular, beautifully shot, grand, smartly written--until the appearance of Silva, the sad Dark Knight twist, and the messy third act, when the glaring plot holes and stupid attempts to inject depth with banal pop psychology ruined what could have been the best Bond ever.
Spectre is a more even film. But seems to be going though the motions.
More specific misgivings
--"License to kill" shame: I resent the contempt Mendes seems to have for Bond's job--as though we should feel guilty about watching a series about a hired government assassin. If you're ashamed of authoring a movie that glorifies a 00 agent, don't apply for the job of directing a Bond movie! Spoiler alert: the ending, with Bond symbolically giving up his gun and walking towards the girl, pleased the romantic in me. Yet I couldn't help reading it as a restatement of the Skyfall theme, an attempt to make the last ever Bond movie. In short, I've had enough of Mendes telling me that Bond should be over and done with.
--The personal angle: the personal angle was already tired when they used it in Skyfall. Now it's downright stupid. To suggest that the grandest and meanest villain of the franchise is simply motivated by sibling rivalry is disrespectful towards the Bond mythology... We need to go back to villains who are doing evil for profit, not because they have some unresolved mommy or daddy issues.
--Bond goes rogue, again: by the same token, Bond needs to go back to being a professional field agent. Any M worth his salt would have had him demoted to the old registry basement, digitizing old files.
--Information is the new gold: A villain who wants to monopolize information--where have I seen this before? It was newish when Elliot Carver did it. Silva turned it into a cliche. At this point it's just a lazy bit of writing.
--Torture scene: I found this gratuitous; a strange mixture of cruel and camp (the torture device looks goofily complicated, while the torture itself is just bizarre). Luckily, it only looks horrific; the minute he is set free, Bond bounces back from the unbearable pain as though nothing happened. In every way, the opposite of the gritty torture scene in Casino Royale.
Things I liked:
--Q and the gang were pretty awesome.
--The humour and comic relief were just right. Perfectly pitched.
--I didn't expect Madeleine Swann to work as well as she did. Classy. I'm sold.
--PTS: simply spectacular
--Train sequence was gorgeously filmed and the action was fun.
--Great Locations: While the photography was not as luxurious as Skyfall, locations were definitely a highlight. Rome and Mexico, especially, were looking gorgeous, and the villain's lair was a nice touch.
I disagree. I still think his chemistry with Eva Green is the best out of the DC movies. Though Seydoux is definitely second.
"Greatness From Small Beginnings."
I do agree rather that Mendes - and to some extent Craig - doesn't seem to like Bond that much and both have a left-wing attitude about it. Now, there's nothing wrong with being a lefty in itself, and in the GF novel Bond professes some sympathy for the Cuban rebels for what it's worth, but it doesn't really fit Bond. It's like having a campaigner against gas emissions as producer of Top Gear.
And I feel recent authors of the continuation novels have been like that too (I've not read TM yet).
Incidentally, someone once wrote that the FYEO pts does'nt fit the rest of the movie and it could almost be a dream of Bond's. Now I feel the whole of Spectre could be dismissed as a dream, it has an eerie feel to it, and the lack of other people in the form of extras gives it a lonely feel, like an Edward Hopper painting almost (the train scene in particular).
That's not to diss the film but it would solve problems if in the next film Craig woke up and it was all a dream, foreshadowing the real Spectre gang and the real ESB.
Or maybe things just reboot next time round, like a new kind of Sherlock Holmes, Batman or Spider-Man franchise.
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It's sort of one of those things that modern films do. They throw around a really vague quote about life, death, happiness and such, that seems profound just to instill to the viewer that there's a semblance of a core concept in the movie.
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Christoph Waltz character being dead, then alive. The old M being dead yet
in a way still alive ( to do her job). The old service being Dead, yet it comes
alive again to save the day ? only my thoughts.
I've noticed that movies try to be profound when there's really no substance at all.
I thought he had no chemistry with Eva Green. Their romance looked very forced to me.
This is where we disagree...I totally believed in the Bond/Lynd relationship...I just don't see anything between Bond/Swann at all... -{
Nice interpretation
+1
I never connected all those plot points. But makes absolute sense to me!
I'm with SirMiles on this one definitely - Bond and Vesper had a great chemistry - I actually believed in Bond falling in love back then. The relationship with Swan doesn't stand a chance but on the other hand remember - Bond never told her that he loves her -{
That is accurate. In fact, when Bond saved her, she says that only gives her 5 mins more
Basically it was a good Bond movie but I felt the acting and dialogue were dull and plain throughout.
The pacing was too slow and there was a lack of suspense throughout.
Favourite line: 'Throw that down the toilet'.
The ending in London was the best part by far. Very entertaining. It was good that the movie built up to a strong ending.
C was a great character and felt like the main villain.
The Rome scenes were great.
The Mocorro scenes at Blofeld's lair were the biggest disappointment.
Pre-titles sequence didn't live up to the hype.
Although I liked the song initially, the Titles sequence proved to be one of the worst.
Thinking back to Casino Royale and the Brosnan era, we expect pure entertainment from a 007 movie and this is not what we are getting now which is a real shame.
I hope this is Craig's last 007 movie.
Also, please bring in new producers and writers for the next one.
5.5 / 10
7. LALD 8. TWINE 9. Skyfall 10. AVTAK 11. CR 12. TLD 13. YOLT
14. TMWTGG 15. Moonraker 16. TSWLM 17. Thunderball 18. FRWL
19. Dr. No 20. DAF 21. LTK 22. DAD 23. QoS 24. Spectre 25. NTTD
However, the movie has the ability to polarize opinions. Looking at many of the reviews here and on IMDB, I get a feeling that Marc Forster would be celebrating in relief
The movie opens up in Mexico City on the Day of the Dead, I guess this is supposed to some sort of pun, but any way, the pre-title sequence is not a good as some critics have said. The quality film cause the action scenes to be jerky, somewhat reminds of the scene in last Die Hard movie. Everything is so predictable.
Then back to London where we find out that the 00 section is on the chopping block as this merger between MI-6 and MI-5 is about to take place. Then off to Rome where Bond is trying to hunt down the widow of the man he killed in Mexico City. She is played for 5 minutes by Monica Bellucci.
Bond finally meets the organization. The scene is which we are introduced to Spectre is reminiscent of that of Thunderball and the scene in the novel. Except it is not as good. There does not seem to be any reason for the existence of SPECTRE, we are never told. Then we go this pointless and tedious car chase through the streets of Rome. Bond is reunited with Mr. White from Casino Royale and Quantum where we find out that Mr White has a beautiful daughter played by Léa Seydoux, who seems to have only tight fitting clothing, not that I am complaining. He is living in seclusion and strikes a deal with Bond to have Bond protect his daughter. Léa Seydoux was actually in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. I wonder if this was some sort of inside joke. You Ghost Protocol…Spectre.
After an hour of moaning a groaning by Craig, anti-hero and villain are reunited in some of silliest dialog ever. Bond is tortured (along with audience) and the big hook is dropped. At this point in movie you just want the movie to end and is not impressed with the big revelation with the usual prop. In fact, I am not sure any under 30 will really understand it or care to understand it. The villain played by Christopher Waltz is Solomon Lane is the same character from Rogue Nation.
Again, leave to the writers to screw the film up. This movie lacks originality. It robs the remaining the literary connection to Fleming. Bond is no longer Bond, he is part of the Mission Impossible Force. Q is essentially Benjie. The movie does not seem to have relevance any more to series. This is not fault of the Craig era, but this started somewhere in the Brosnan era.
Craig cannot act. There was an attempt to lighten up the movie with humor, but all of the gags seem to fall flat and are ill timed the weird thing about the movie is that movie is a tribute film, but to whom? Perhaps, the film is Craig last. I wish EON would relinquish control over the movie but whether the movie is bad or good, it is going to make money. The music is good. However, the producers decided to reuse the musical themes established in Skyfall, so there is a lot of rehashed music.
One Star. Which is better than the No Star I gave Skyfall.
"Day?"
"Wasted"
Although we all have different opinions, which can be fun, adding to the
Mix. For instance I loved Spectre.
Which is reason enough for me to buy a cinema ticket
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Bingo!
And that applies to Bond's motives as well.
I left the cinema quite angry ( though I really liked the movie) telling my wife that I am fed up with the elaboration of Bond's childhood, history and inner motives and demons.
Give him a mission which he professionally solves and everybody is happy! {[]
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Bad attitude and being shy round girls !
of revenge posting those photos on Face Book.
So no good films since TLD?
Let's not forget Rogue Nation was pushed forward from December to July. Would you say Rogue Nation was a copy of SPECTRE if it did come out in December?
Does there need to be a reason? And we can presume it's for people who want to comit Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion and need funding.
Not even Bond fans under 30 (like myself)? Not everyone born after 1985 is clueless about Bond or movies. And honestly you don't need to have knowledge of the previous films to understand, most people know who Bofeld is.
How? They have different motivations and plots.
What, because he's Young and does the gadgets? The current Q is more similar to Desmond Llewlyn than Benji.
Wowser.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Eon be like ' oh this time it's personal and ****,' and I be like, ' oh no not again didn't we just do that? Already?
And Eon be like ' yeah but it's way sussesful and Babs loves it' and I be like ' enough now let it go n move on dude it's just lazy n ting!' And EON be like' I wonder if Bond ever had a Dog...'