SPECTRE reviews - *SPOILERS*

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    I have to add this is this the only film i've ever been to where I watched two separate groups of people walked out during the showing.
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    Had you been eating those week-old re-fried beans in The Silencer and Bra Strap again?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sometimes when watching a very entertaining movie etc. I too have to leave........
    ........ If the Bat Signal is on. ;)
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I'm not sure why people would walk out? SP has many of the ingredients of a bond film, some top class actors and some terrific locations! OK the plot is at times questionable but that can be said of many of the Bond films. I suppose you just can't please all the people all the time!
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I'm not sure why people would walk out? SP has many of the ingredients of a bond film, some top class actors and some terrific locations! OK the plot is at times questionable but that can be said of many of the Bond films. I suppose you just can't please all the people all the time!
    I have no clue, I was as surprised as you are! never seen it happen before.
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
    Dude, not every Bond can be a LTK. :)
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s

    Pretty much sums it up. -{ :))
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s

    Pretty much sums it up. -{ :))
    Why you I oughta.... :))
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
    While I do feel that Spectre failed to live up to the hype and was a very forgettable and middling Bond film, I don't think its quite bad enough to walk out of but apparently I was wrong.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
    While I do feel that Spectre failed to live up to the hype and was a very forgettable and middling Bond film, I don't think its quite bad enough to walk out of but apparently I was wrong.

    I've never walked out on any movie (when I pay $16 or more for a movie I want my money's worth!), but walking out on this I can't understand.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    Matt S wrote:
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
    While I do feel that Spectre failed to live up to the hype and was a very forgettable and middling Bond film, I don't think its quite bad enough to walk out of but apparently I was wrong.

    I've never walked out on any movie (when I pay $16 or more for a movie I want my money's worth!), but walking out on this I can't understand.
    Its indeed quite baffling but oh well. I think it was around the Tangier scenes too. I also noticed Spectre didn't last as long in my theater as SF did. Last time I saw SF was early January to a totally packed theater, last Spectre showing was a near dead theater in December which is when the walk outs occurred.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Its indeed quite baffling but oh well. I think it was around the Tangier scenes too.
    They stayed for a second showing & left after the most exciting parts-?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I have a mate who's the manager of a local cinema complex, once told me one of the
    funniest " walking out of a movie" he'd ever noticed was Broke back mountain. Several
    older couples walked out of every screening. :D He joking said they must have been expecting
    a Clint Eastwood western.
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  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    sniperUK wrote:
    Plots terrible, backstory stupid, action boring ,script weak , ending :s I can't blame them.
    While I do feel that Spectre failed to live up to the hype and was a very forgettable and middling Bond film, I don't think its quite bad enough to walk out of but apparently I was wrong.

    I've never walked out on any movie (when I pay $16 or more for a movie I want my money's worth!), but walking out on this I can't understand.


    My local cinema only charges $9, but I still would not walk out... even though SPECTRE is far from being the best 007 movie.
  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    I still can't get my head around why I think this is such a terrible film. I loved Casino Royale and Skyfall - hell, I never thought I'd appreciate Quantum of Solace, but I'd take it over Spectre any day...
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    When I left the cinema after Skyfall the audience where chatting and grinning - there was a real buzz. My wife and I ate out and talked all through the meal, even engaging two fellow diners who had seen it too. When I left the cinema after Spectre it was utterly silent...
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    You have to remember to take the earphones out mate. ;)

    I too think SF was the better film, but I did enjoy SP very much. When I went
    Everyone laughed at the right parts and seemed excited enough in all the action
    Sequences.
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  • SilentSpySilentSpy Private Exotic AreaPosts: 765MI6 Agent
    I've talked to people and read a few reviews on sites and think it comes down to one thing. If you like the Bond reboot and the three previous movies more than the old Bond movies, then chances are you will dislike Spectre. However if you are a fan of those old movies then Spectre will be the type of Bond movie you've missed for years. I would go as far as saying it's the first real Bond movie since Licence to Kill.
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  • Operation BedlamOperation Bedlam FinlandPosts: 15MI6 Agent
    SilentSpy wrote:
    I've talked to people and read a few reviews on sites and think it comes down to one thing. If you like the Bond reboot and the three previous movies more than the old Bond movies, then chances are you will dislike Spectre. However if you are a fan of those old movies then Spectre will be the type of Bond movie you've missed for years. I would go as far as saying it's the first real Bond movie since Licence to Kill.

    Well I for one like both the classic films and the reboot films. To me they are just different interpretations of the Bond character but both equally enjoyable in their own right. The reason I dislike Spectre is simply that it has a very poor script which gives the cast very little to work with. Before the premiere I was very excited to get Blofeld back but I just think they wasted the character and Christoph Waltz by giving him way too little screen time and the ridiculous Oberhauser backstory. I don't mind bringing back the gadget-laden cars, evil lairs and other more classic Bond elements but you need have a good story to make those things work in this day and age. The whole Nine Eyes plot could have been a nice modern retouch on the old world domination scheme but it wasn't properly executed and feels rushed and not menacing at all.
  • ichaiceichaice LondonPosts: 602MI6 Agent
    I think it was my least favourite out of all the Craig films. It did have its moments though the story was poor in my opinion. My favourite bit was the walk across the roof in Mexico, that was a pretty cool scene.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    I saw it twice in the theater, both times in an almost sold out 550 seat IMAX. The audience appeared to enjoy the film. I have a hard time wrapping my head around someone who is a Bond fan walking out on SPECTRE. I understand it may not have appealed to everyone or even those who consider it to be very subpar. I was not a Roger Moore Bond film fan (especially as I grew a bit older) but I saw them all in the theater and enjoyed them for what they were.
  • SilentSpySilentSpy Private Exotic AreaPosts: 765MI6 Agent
    SilentSpy wrote:
    I've talked to people and read a few reviews on sites and think it comes down to one thing. If you like the Bond reboot and the three previous movies more than the old Bond movies, then chances are you will dislike Spectre. However if you are a fan of those old movies then Spectre will be the type of Bond movie you've missed for years. I would go as far as saying it's the first real Bond movie since Licence to Kill.

    Well I for one like both the classic films and the reboot films. To me they are just different interpretations of the Bond character but both equally enjoyable in their own right. The reason I dislike Spectre is simply that it has a very poor script which gives the cast very little to work with. Before the premiere I was very excited to get Blofeld back but I just think they wasted the character and Christoph Waltz by giving him way too little screen time and the ridiculous Oberhauser backstory. I don't mind bringing back the gadget-laden cars, evil lairs and other more classic Bond elements but you need have a good story to make those things work in this day and age. The whole Nine Eyes plot could have been a nice modern retouch on the old world domination scheme but it wasn't properly executed and feels rushed and not menacing at all.

    Do you really enjoy Quantum of Solace and Skyfall though? Because I have little interest in watching those two again.

    I wonder how many people watched the trailers or got really excited by the idea of what they would do with Blofeld. Maybe me being let down by the previous two movies and knowing that there was no way they would top Thunderball, made me relax and enjoy what they did bring. I didn't watch any of the trailers or read any news leading up to the release either after seeing the announcement conference. With Blofeld there were only two real ways of handling him. A behind the scenes character or an OHMSS type character. When they cast Hinx, you had to know that he (or she - when I was guessing from the Spectre Press Conference) would be a behind the scenes character.

    Also, I started a topic a long time ago about how all the recent Bond stories were personal.

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/43394/the-abundance-of-personal-missions-in-modern-bond-movies/

    Spectre really is the ultimate personal Bond story. Even though the producers obviously had no intention of doing that from the beginning. But I thought that twist made it different than the more previously used motivations for Blofeld.
    ichaice wrote:
    I think it was my least favourite out of all the Craig films. It did have its moments though the story was poor in my opinion. My favourite bit was the walk across the roof in Mexico, that was a pretty cool scene.

    That's funny. Spectre is my favorite of Daniel Craig's Bond films.

    You guys have me tempted to write up a review. I wrote a few long ones for Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. But I don't have time now.
    "Better late than never."
  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    I'd rank the Craig films accordingly:

    1. Skyfall


    2. SPECTRE
    3. Quantum of Solace
    4. Casino Royale

    SP, QOS and CR are all in my bottom five, with CR dead last.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I'd rank the Craig films accordingly:

    1. Skyfall


    2. SPECTRE
    3. Quantum of Solace
    4. Casino Royale

    SP, QOS and CR are all in my bottom five, with CR dead last.
    For me, it's:
    1: SPECTRE/ Quantum Of Solace
    2: Casino Royale
    3: Skyfall
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  • Operation BedlamOperation Bedlam FinlandPosts: 15MI6 Agent
    SilentSpy wrote:
    Do you really enjoy Quantum of Solace and Skyfall though? Because I have little interest in watching those two again.

    I wonder how many people watched the trailers or got really excited by the idea of what they would do with Blofeld. Maybe me being let down by the previous two movies and knowing that there was no way they would top Thunderball, made me relax and enjoy what they did bring. I didn't watch any of the trailers or read any news leading up to the release either after seeing the announcement conference. With Blofeld there were only two real ways of handling him. A behind the scenes character or an OHMSS type character. When they cast Hinx, you had to know that he (or she - when I was guessing from the Spectre Press Conference) would be a behind the scenes character.

    Also, I started a topic a long time ago about how all the recent Bond stories were personal.

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/43394/the … nd-movies/

    Spectre really is the ultimate personal Bond story. Even though the producers obviously had no intention of doing that from the beginning. But I thought that twist made it different than the more previously used motivations for Blofeld.

    Yes, I have to say that I enjoy both Quantum of Solace and Skyfall much more than Spectre. Bond feels like a more interesting and complex character in both and both of those films actually try to do something different and introduce new elements we haven't really seen before in Bond films.

    I felt that Spectre didn't really bring anything new to the table. Apart from the PTS and the train fight the action scenes were pretty underwhelming despite the huge budget. Spectre has a great cast and loads of potential but it just doesn't deliver on that potential for me. My main problem with the script is that it lacks focus and leaves a lot of the plot points underdeveloped, especially the relationship between Madeleine and Bond.

    I understand they wanted to bring Blofeld back with a new twist but the personal angle was completely unnecessary. A more basic idea of Bond stumbling upon a global omnipotent conspiracy led by the greatest and most calculating criminal mastermind would have been a much more menacing scenario than a jealous lunatic with daddy issues. The whole bridge scene with Blofeld provoking Bond to execute him is cringeworthy and not like Fleming's Blofeld at all.
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    SilentSpy wrote:
    Do you really enjoy Quantum of Solace and Skyfall though? Because I have little interest in watching those two again.

    I wonder how many people watched the trailers or got really excited by the idea of what they would do with Blofeld. Maybe me being let down by the previous two movies and knowing that there was no way they would top Thunderball, made me relax and enjoy what they did bring. I didn't watch any of the trailers or read any news leading up to the release either after seeing the announcement conference. With Blofeld there were only two real ways of handling him. A behind the scenes character or an OHMSS type character. When they cast Hinx, you had to know that he (or she - when I was guessing from the Spectre Press Conference) would be a behind the scenes character.

    Also, I started a topic a long time ago about how all the recent Bond stories were personal.

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/43394/the … nd-movies/

    Spectre really is the ultimate personal Bond story. Even though the producers obviously had no intention of doing that from the beginning. But I thought that twist made it different than the more previously used motivations for Blofeld.

    Yes, I have to say that I enjoy both Quantum of Solace and Skyfall much more than Spectre. Bond feels like a more interesting and complex character in both and both of those films actually try to do something different and introduce new elements we haven't really seen before in Bond films.

    I felt that Spectre didn't really bring anything new to the table. Apart from the PTS and the train fight the action scenes were pretty underwhelming despite the huge budget. Spectre has a great cast and loads of potential but it just doesn't deliver on that potential for me. My main problem with the script is that it lacks focus and leaves a lot of the plot points underdeveloped, especially the relationship between Madeleine and Bond.

    I understand they wanted to bring Blofeld back with a new twist but the personal angle was completely unnecessary. A more basic idea of Bond stumbling upon a global omnipotent conspiracy led by the greatest and most calculating criminal mastermind would have been a much more menacing scenario than a jealous lunatic with daddy issues. The whole bridge scene with Blofeld provoking Bond to execute him is cringeworthy and not like Fleming's Blofeld at all.

    This is the only problem of the film for me. The attempt to tie in all the previous Craig films with Blofield and thus making all those villians an extension of Blofield thereby relating them all to Bond was quite a bit.

    Although, Blofield DOES explain that Bond kept getting in his way, which is to say that Blofield didn't' really want to deal with Bond but was rather forced to.

    This little bit doesn't change the fact that this film has some of the greatest moments in Bond film history. The team had a very specific concept for this film (throwback to Roger Moore era with some Connery thrown in) and they were very successful in executing it. There are way too many positive elements in this film. I concede that it can be argued that the parts are greater than the sum. These parts alone, for their excellence, catapult the film into the top 10 for me. B-)
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    This little bit doesn't change the fact that this film has some of the greatest moments in Bond film history.

    The end titles ? At least then the misery was over.
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    This little bit doesn't change the fact that this film has some of the greatest moments in Bond film history.

    The end titles ? At least then the misery was over.

    Sniper, which is the best film in your opinion? just wondering...
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Halcon wrote:
    sniperUK wrote:
    This little bit doesn't change the fact that this film has some of the greatest moments in Bond film history.

    The end titles ? At least then the misery was over.

    Sniper, which is the best film in your opinion? just wondering...

    OHMSS or Thunderball.
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