I have to say I really enjoyed OP a lot on recent viewing and was taken in by how good the plot really is in retrospect!
Now I have to warm up for NSNA next ...
Two of the observations I made in this episode were among some new things I noticed.
- The Knife throwing twin that Bond shoves in the cannon seems to completely dissapear once the train goes over the border and the guards from the customs check out the cannon but don't spot the body. Either an error I never noticed before, or I missed something.
- I realised for the first time that it's ironic that Bond tries to prevent a bomb from going off in a western military base, while in the PTS he was placing a (smaller) bomb in a communist military base. Essentially he was doing the same thing as Orlov, just in the opposite camp. (I'm pretty sure the military base from the PTS is supposed to be in Cuba..)
I was wondering how you guys felt about these two observations.
I always , assumed that Bond moved the body to a better hiding place later on ?
( Don't know when he had the time, but it's the sort of thing he'd do )
As for Bond planting his bomb. Firstly I think Bond had a very small Bond to
Simply destroy the aircraft ( it was the missile that caused the huge explosion )
and it was on a base full of soldiers close by, not civilians ? He wasn't going to
Kill thousands of people.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I always , assumed that Bond moved the body to a better hiding place later on ?
( Don't know when he had the time, but it's the sort of thing he'd do )
As for Bond planting his bomb. Firstly I think Bond had a very small Bond to
Simply destroy the aircraft ( it was the missile that caused the huge explosion )
and it was on a base full of soldiers close by, not civilians ? He wasn't going to
Kill thousands of people.
Yes very true. A small explosive certainly doesn't compare to a nuclear warhead. But it's funny to consider that Bond could have potentially started a war too by blowing up military hardware in Cuba during the cold war, much like Orlov. But then again, this is what happens when you start analysing these movies to much )
) True, in reality I think all the writers were thinking of was how to start the movie
With a bang ! Same with having fully kitted out paratroopers guard Bond on the
Back of a truck. As it gives a great visual escape for 007.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
) True, in reality I think all the writers were thinking of was how to start the movie
With a bang ! Same with having fully kitted out paratroopers guard Bond on the
Back of a truck. As it gives a great visual escape for 007.
) I agree! Of course that was all the film makers were concerned with! It's us fans that tend to dig deeper into all the stuff! ) Which is why I try to point out flaws or ironies in these episodes, but try to remain lighthearted about that and keep the informing part in balance with the entertainment.
NSNA is my next task, and I wonder how that one will go down on me on a fresh viewing. I haven't seen it for atleast a year! Anything particular you guys think I should look out for or give a mention?
I don't like NSNA, I think it looks like a tv movie, as Barbel has already said the score is so bad. It
actually seems to have no connection to what's happening on screen. The lighting in many scenes
Is terrible. The underground temple sequence is so brightly lit, as to kill any suspense. What little
action there is is badly done, the gadgets are rubbish, Barbara Carrera ( although loved by many)
Over acts so much, you'd think it was Panto season.
Bernie Casey is a good felix, you could see him and Bond having drinks together, even if not working.
Edward Fox, I do really like as M, totally exasperated with 007.
Max Von Sydow is a good Blofeld, but under used.
I only have NSNA on bluray, to complete my collection, Apart from the cinema, I don't think I've ever
watched it fully though again. As every time I try, I end up skipping whole sections of it.
Also Bond in F*cking overalls !
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I've said this on Twitter when Expectustotalk reviewed the film. Once Fatima Blush dies, that's when i start to lose interest. Barbara Carrera was fantastic in the part and gave an entertaining and OTT performance. Love the bit where she catches Jack smoking and gives him a kicking for it. It's sadistic and it adds another layer to her character.
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"
I don't like NSNA, I think it looks like a tv movie, as Barbel has already said the score is so bad. It
actually seems to have no connection to what's happening on screen. The lighting in many scenes
Is terrible. The underground temple sequence is so brightly lit, as to kill any suspense. What little
action there is is badly done, the gadgets are rubbish, Barbara Carrera ( although loved by many)
Over acts so much, you'd think it was Panto season.
Bernie Casey is a good felix, you could see him and Bond having drinks together, even if not working.
Edward Fox, I do really like as M, totally exasperated with 007.
Max Von Sydow is a good Blofeld, but under used.
I only have NSNA on bluray, to complete my collection, Apart from the cinema, I don't think I've ever
watched it fully though again. As every time I try, I end up skipping whole sections of it.
Also Bond in F*cking overalls !
I agree completely with all of this, except for the comment about the score. -{
I don't like NSNA, I think it looks like a tv movie, as Barbel has already said the score is so bad. It
actually seems to have no connection to what's happening on screen. The lighting in many scenes
Is terrible. The underground temple sequence is so brightly lit, as to kill any suspense. What little
action there is is badly done, the gadgets are rubbish, Barbara Carrera ( although loved by many)
Over acts so much, you'd think it was Panto season.
Bernie Casey is a good felix, you could see him and Bond having drinks together, even if not working.
Edward Fox, I do really like as M, totally exasperated with 007.
Max Von Sydow is a good Blofeld, but under used.
I only have NSNA on bluray, to complete my collection, Apart from the cinema, I don't think I've ever
watched it fully though again. As every time I try, I end up skipping whole sections of it.
Also Bond in F*cking overalls !
Completely agree, that's how I remember it the most vividly. Still, apart from the score I honestly enjoyed it more than Diamonds Are Forever and I do feel Connery gives a more energetic performance in this! I'm off to holidays by the end of this week (Portugal) But when I get back I will be sure to delve into NSNA and the episode soon!
I've said this on Twitter when Expectustotalk reviewed the film. Once Fatima Blush dies, that's when i start to lose interest. Barbara Carrera was fantastic in the part and gave an entertaining and OTT performance. Love the bit where she catches Jack smoking and gives him a kicking for it. It's sadistic and it adds another layer to her character.
Quite right, love her character. I always think of her as a sort of 'beta version' of Xenia Onatopp.
I don't like NSNA, I think it looks like a tv movie, as Barbel has already said the score is so bad. It
actually seems to have no connection to what's happening on screen. The lighting in many scenes
Is terrible. The underground temple sequence is so brightly lit, as to kill any suspense. What little
action there is is badly done, the gadgets are rubbish, Barbara Carrera ( although loved by many)
Over acts so much, you'd think it was Panto season.
Bernie Casey is a good felix, you could see him and Bond having drinks together, even if not working.
Edward Fox, I do really like as M, totally exasperated with 007.
Max Von Sydow is a good Blofeld, but under used.
I only have NSNA on bluray, to complete my collection, Apart from the cinema, I don't think I've ever
watched it fully though again. As every time I try, I end up skipping whole sections of it.
Also Bond in F*cking overalls !
The production values are so low, very cheap looking in every respect. A real shoddy effort.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Your octopussy review was great you put a lot of effort into your reviews
Cheers guys! -{
I have just returned from an absolute amazing holiday in the wonderful Portugal and now have to face the depressing grey sky and cold August weather of the Netherlands again... But I still have some freetime left this month, so I will defenitely delve into working on the next episodes within these days!
NSNA is my next task, and I wonder how that one will go down on me on a fresh viewing. I haven't seen it for atleast a year! Anything particular you guys think I should look out for or give a mention?
As a preference and I'll admit I'm biased but, in my opinion I'd payout big time on this disaster. I say that as Thunderball (along with Dr. No) are my two favourite Bond films so a remake should never have happened X-( and as much as I like Sean Connery, I often wonder why he agreed to make this film? Ego, money?
Furthermore, Connery was well and truly done by DAF (if not earlier) and this crap is 12 years later. I've never considered this a Bond film (as well as CR '67) and never will. Also, as nice as Kim Basinger is, she is no Claudine Auger.
Enough negativity, loving the recaps and not long until Timothy Dalton gets his comeuppance I can't wait) - I've no doubt you'll have fun with him. In saying that, TLD and LTK in my opinion are good Bond films but as Bond I was never convinced his portrayal were very good.
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NSNA is my next task, and I wonder how that one will go down on me on a fresh viewing. I haven't seen it for atleast a year! Anything particular you guys think I should look out for or give a mention?
As a preference and I'll admit I'm biased but, in my opinion I'd payout big time on this disaster. I say that as Thunderball (along with Dr. No) are my two favourite Bond films so a remake should never have happened X-( and as much as I like Sean Connery, I often wonder why he agreed to make this film? Ego, money?
Furthermore, Connery was well and truly done by DAF (if not earlier) and this crap is 12 years later. I've never considered this a Bond film (as well as CR '67) and never will. Also, as nice as Kim Basinger is, she is no Claudine Auger.
Enough negativity, loving the recaps and not long until Timothy Dalton gets his comeuppance I can't wait) - I've no doubt you'll have fun with him. In saying that, TLD and LTK in my opinion are good Bond films but as Bond I was never convinced his portrayal were very good.
I can agree on most of what you said here! Apparantely Connery was given a lot of creative controle and really wanted to give NSNA the more realistic approach as his favorite FRWL had. It's funny how none of that is really apparant in the finished result... I'm about to give the movie another good rewatch and start the groundwork of the script.
And yes, i'm defenitely looking forward to start covering the Dalton era. As you may know, LTK is my favorite Bond film, and I quite like TLD too! Sometimes I really wish there had been a third Bond film for him in '91 too...
Agreed another very entertaining review. I really do look forward to them -{ I also agree with
most of your observations except, that in my opinion both Edward Fox and Barbara Carrera
both over act to the extent, that they look like they're in a pantomime.
I never found Kim Bassenger all that attractive. ( loved the Family Guy clip ) NSNA is a very
Weak film, Terrible score, no sense of danger, just a really poor effort. I Would take DAF
over it any day.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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To be fair, Connery seemed more motivated and engaged and arguably more physically fit in NSNA than DAF, despite the overalls!
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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Great news The Octopussy review is up -{
I have to say I really enjoyed OP a lot on recent viewing and was taken in by how good the plot really is in retrospect!
Now I have to warm up for NSNA next ...
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Two of the observations I made in this episode were among some new things I noticed.
- The Knife throwing twin that Bond shoves in the cannon seems to completely dissapear once the train goes over the border and the guards from the customs check out the cannon but don't spot the body. Either an error I never noticed before, or I missed something.
- I realised for the first time that it's ironic that Bond tries to prevent a bomb from going off in a western military base, while in the PTS he was placing a (smaller) bomb in a communist military base. Essentially he was doing the same thing as Orlov, just in the opposite camp. (I'm pretty sure the military base from the PTS is supposed to be in Cuba..)
I was wondering how you guys felt about these two observations.
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( Don't know when he had the time, but it's the sort of thing he'd do )
As for Bond planting his bomb. Firstly I think Bond had a very small Bond to
Simply destroy the aircraft ( it was the missile that caused the huge explosion )
and it was on a base full of soldiers close by, not civilians ? He wasn't going to
Kill thousands of people.
Yes very true. A small explosive certainly doesn't compare to a nuclear warhead. But it's funny to consider that Bond could have potentially started a war too by blowing up military hardware in Cuba during the cold war, much like Orlov. But then again, this is what happens when you start analysing these movies to much
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With a bang !
Back of a truck.
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Hey, the score is great. It's just not great for a Bond film, but NSNA isn't a Bond film anyway.
actually seems to have no connection to what's happening on screen. The lighting in many scenes
Is terrible. The underground temple sequence is so brightly lit, as to kill any suspense. What little
action there is is badly done, the gadgets are rubbish, Barbara Carrera ( although loved by many)
Over acts so much, you'd think it was Panto season.
Bernie Casey is a good felix, you could see him and Bond having drinks together, even if not working.
Edward Fox, I do really like as M, totally exasperated with 007.
Max Von Sydow is a good Blofeld, but under used.
I only have NSNA on bluray, to complete my collection, Apart from the cinema, I don't think I've ever
watched it fully though again. As every time I try, I end up skipping whole sections of it.
Also Bond in F*cking overalls !
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I agree completely with all of this, except for the comment about the score. -{
Yeah I was defenitely planning to give all of that a mention, seem to be pretty much on par.
Completely agree, that's how I remember it the most vividly. Still, apart from the score I honestly enjoyed it more than Diamonds Are Forever and I do feel Connery gives a more energetic performance in this! I'm off to holidays by the end of this week (Portugal) But when I get back I will be sure to delve into NSNA and the episode soon!
Quite right, love her character. I always think of her as a sort of 'beta version' of Xenia Onatopp.
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The production values are so low, very cheap looking in every respect. A real shoddy effort.
Cheers guys! -{
I have just returned from an absolute amazing holiday in the wonderful Portugal and now have to face the depressing grey sky and cold August weather of the Netherlands again...
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As a preference and I'll admit I'm biased but, in my opinion I'd payout big time on this disaster. I say that as Thunderball (along with Dr. No) are my two favourite Bond films so a remake should never have happened X-( and as much as I like Sean Connery, I often wonder why he agreed to make this film? Ego, money?
Furthermore, Connery was well and truly done by DAF (if not earlier) and this crap is 12 years later. I've never considered this a Bond film (as well as CR '67) and never will. Also, as nice as Kim Basinger is, she is no Claudine Auger.
Enough negativity, loving the recaps and not long until Timothy Dalton gets his comeuppance
I can agree on most of what you said here! Apparantely Connery was given a lot of creative controle and really wanted to give NSNA the more realistic approach as his favorite FRWL had. It's funny how none of that is really apparant in the finished result... I'm about to give the movie another good rewatch and start the groundwork of the script.
And yes, i'm defenitely looking forward to start covering the Dalton era. As you may know, LTK is my favorite Bond film, and I quite like TLD too! Sometimes I really wish there had been a third Bond film for him in '91 too...
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Thank you Dutchfinger - another brilliant review and you gave it it's just deserts
most of your observations except, that in my opinion both Edward Fox and Barbara Carrera
both over act to the extent, that they look like they're in a pantomime.
I never found Kim Bassenger all that attractive. ( loved the Family Guy clip ) NSNA is a very
Weak film, Terrible score, no sense of danger, just a really poor effort. I Would take DAF
over it any day.