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Seen the film now. Loved it. Possibly even adored it, will know after my second viewing. One thing's for sure, it's a far more traditional Bond adventure which is just what the doctor ordered as far as I'm concerned.
I often come away from these films with one or two questions or confusions regarding the plot - moments where I feel like I've missed something along the way. I thought I'd make a thread for anyone with any similar niggles.
Mine are:
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I often come away from these films with one or two questions or confusions regarding the plot - moments where I feel like I've missed something along the way. I thought I'd make a thread for anyone with any similar niggles.
Mine are:
Is it established exactly why Hinx kills the guy at the Spectre meeting? It seemed to me like the traditional 'we don't tolerate failure' moment but I missed exactly what it was the guy had done wrong?
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When Bond is desperately trying to get Blofeld to turn off the footage of White's suicide to protect Swann, why exactly is he so passionate about it? Is he simply trying to stop her from seeing her father's death, or does he feel that it implicates him in some way? I wasn't quite sure, which took me out of the moment slightly. He explained to her how White died so I'm not sure exactly what the revelation would be.
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I see...
I'm not sure this is particularly clear to be honest. Does that mean that Hinx is therefore Sciarra's replacement? The impression I got with him emerging from the shadows is that he is simply the muscle, called upon when required, rather than an operating member of Spectre. His killing of the Italian just didn't make sense to me - why exactly was Hinx unimpressed - and why was he not sitting at the table with the rest of them?
Nevertheless, I suspect that you right Liparus
Sorry...I thought it was crystal clear and left no room for doubt...at all !
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Pretty much exactly how I saw it -{
The netting that Bond (and Swann) jump onto to escape the burning MI6 building. Why's it there? Did Blofeld deliberately give them an escape route? Or is it something to do with the restoration of the building?
They put nets up in delapidated buildings to catch falling rubble. If men had been on site to rig the explosives for demolition, it would make sense to have it there.
Why the heck was there a fuel refinery right in the middle of Blofelds' high tech compound?!
Why didn't Bond loot then burn down Mr. White's log cabin?
Perhaps he needed fuel to run his operations...can't see someone piping in gas and oil all the way out there
Why would you do that ?:)
Yes, his SPECTRE complex needed fuel for the pool of vehicles and aircraft to get to the outside world, but having massive fuel lines RIGHT UP AGAINST the main habitation/control hub of the SPECTRE complex?!
Well not ruthlessly covering up his tracks at Mr. White's hideout led Hinx's crew to Ms. Swan to start with.
I'm not sure that looting and torching the cabin would make any difference. Given that Bond was being tracked via the maguffins in his blood, torching the cabin would be pointlessly destructive.
And what loot would he want? The chess board?
Well you have to put them somewhere
And it does look pretty cool -{
Also, it's not like some secret agent is going to break free and blow it all up....is it ?
Also, he saw the camera filming him...so he knew he was identified anyway.
Destroying the cabin would take too long anyway...and wouldn't achieve anything.
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1) Was there coup d'etat in Quantum, which meant it evolved into Spectre?
To me that seems more likely than one being an active subsidiary of the other. Plus CR-06 and QoS establish that Vesper and Le Chiffre were being used by Quantum, they were not insiders. Silva's back story also clarifies he was not part of either organisation. - As far as I know?
2) M-Malry was the head of the security committee before he replaced M-Manf. How on earth did C manage to gain so much influence and clout in such a short time? (The C character and his plot line is the weakest part of the whole film for me.)
3) The MI6 building is a gutted shell. If three years have passed as in reality, why is it taking so long to get rid? The building could have been sold off for renovational redevelopment. Offices, residential flats etc. That would have been fast and more profitable than demolition.
I know Tanner says demolition is fast and cheap from the politicians perspective, but considering the localised damage and low casualties noted in Skyfall it doesn't really hold water to me. The damage from the blast was not enough to write off the whole structure. The new tower is far more vulnerable too.
4) White's room in the L'Americain. Did he have part ownership of the place? It would explain how he could conceal a secret room there. (The scene with Mr Christensen and this room's contents are the basis of my coup d'etat theory.)
5) How much time has passed at the end of the film? Bond goes off in "that car." Most of its components are hand made. Q Branch would have been at it for months, considering its earlier appearance, or lack of same. Added to that, I though Skyfall implied it was Bond's own vehicle? "The trouble with company cars, they have trackers." If it's not, why was it in his lock up?
Might as well ask why Bond just didn't shoot Blofeld in the meeting. It's a film, don't over analyse these things.
But that's a case of just letting a character live. Blofeld sent Hinx, but he clearly didn't want Bond killed, so he was sent for no reason.
Do we know Hinx was supposed to kill Bond? He may have been fighting to incapacitate him. The impression I got from the Austria chase is Hinx was after Dr Swann?
How do you know that. You're just assuming here. How do you know what Hinx was sent to do or his actual intentions regarding his orders here? Or if he was even sent or was acting upon orders.
Bond would hardly stick around to find out if Hinx wanted to kill him or just get him to come along nicely.
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LTK was a 15, and IMO, SP is even more violent.
The drilling torture scene, and Hinx crushing that guy's eyeballs, are IMO more violent than anything from LTK.
Also Mr White's death deserves a mention.
I know that desensitization is a factor, but c'mon, SP is clearly way more violent than DC's first three.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
The stairwell fight in CR-06 and Slate's death in QoS are both more gruesome because there is no cut away. We witness Bond completing those murders. The torture scene in CR-06 is more brutal too.
In Spectre the violence has a higher imply factor.
LTK has the aftermath of Rape and murder, implied torture, actual torture several times, and a cranial explosion. It is in a league of it's own. SP almost seems clinically tame by comparison! Eye socket crushing a partial exception, due to the horribly good sound effects.
I forgot one...
6) Did the DB10 have a wow-wee moment cut from the film? Considering the amount of fuss about the car and what made it special, I found it somewhat underwhelming and anti climatic. - Never thought I would ever say that about an Aston Martin!
I think that may have just been down to the car chase. The chase was a bit underwhelming IMO, mainly because it spent a lot of time with the aston Martin stuck behind the fiat 500!