Like the novel, YOLT. Have Bond sent on a mission, the revenge element
could just be an added personal bonus for Bond. So he completes the
mission and gets "closure" on the past.
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Personally it wouldn't bother me if DC was in the next film and Madeleine was not present. Its part of the Bond franchise, do we really need an explanation, Bond girls come and go.
Guess it depends if it starts where directly SPECTRE finished etc but I would be happy for DC to do a non related story / new mission to end his tenure and give this linked stories a break.
Is Waltz likely to return???? I think thats a key question? If not then I would prefer the new Blofeld returned with the new Bond for continuation sake
What was interesting in the novel YOLT is that Bond is basically falling apart (after the death of Tracey) and nobody trusts him any more (even Moneypenny's giving him the side-eye).
Personally it wouldn't bother me if DC was in the next film and Madeleine was not present. Its part of the Bond franchise, do we really need an explanation, Bond girls come and go.
Guess it depends if it starts where directly SPECTRE finished etc but I would be happy for DC to do a non related story / new mission to end his tenure and give this linked stories a break.
Is Waltz likely to return???? I think thats a key question? If not then I would prefer the new Blofeld returned with the new Bond for continuation sake
I'm on this page, no explanation required as someone else said (sorry I forget who) a simple " it didn't work out" would be enough. The relationship such as it was did not seem particularly developed so no biggie in my view. I agree it might be slightly easier with another actor to draw a line under the (loosely and retrospectively) connected story lines, but not impossible. My vote would be simply to move on with or without Daniel. His involvement need not hinder anything and would need to be balanced against the considerable risk of introducing a new actor.
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What if Bond is no longer with MI6 (you know, as is suggested by the end of SP?)?
I'd think he would still have the connection. But I'm with chrisisall and zaphod99. I don't want another revenge or rogue story. I want another James Bond 007 story.
I don't want another revenge story, either. It's probably time to move on to the next Bond actor and have a soft reboot.
But if you are going to have another film with Craig, you'll need to have an explanation for what happened to Madeline. This isn't like the Sixties where Bond can go floating away, seemingly in love with Tatiana, who is never heard of again.
If they bring Blofeld back (I don't think they will and I don't think they should), he would more likely be played by a different actor to keep up with the tradition (the producers are very serious about such details). We saw him with a face scar, so the new actor would be explained as a result of plastic surgery. Same with Swann - don't think she will return. Bond girls never return, and that well-established tradition has been kept even in Craig's movies, despite the desperate efforts to link the individual movies. I could, of course, be wrong, if they already had a plan for the new script - but I doubt it, the scripts nowadays seem to be written on the run and finished at the last minute. So let's wait and see.
Bond has killed innocent people in the past and faced no consequences. It wouldn't work now. M would believe Bond, and he has enough power to not have the authorities going after Bond.
What if Bond is no longer with MI6 (you know, as is suggested by the end of SP?)?
I'd think he would still have the connection. But I'm with chrisisall and zaphod99. I don't want another revenge or rogue story. I want another James Bond 007 story.
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Blofeld will be back, I think. The only questions are whether he returns in #25 or #26, who plays him, and what actor plays Bond opposite him. At the moment my gut is telling me that the principals from SP will return for #25...but it's all just speculation until Eon spills the beans.
I do believe the 25th Bond Feature will be a significant event, and this is something to consider as we continue to speculate B-)
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Bond 25 - "SPECTRE Returns"? or just "Blofeld's Revenge"? 8-)
Also we recently had 50 years of Bond, compared to that I would expect movie 25 to be much more low-key. They will not top Skyfall so quickly.
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edited December 2015
I'll leave the title to you But The Death Collector remains my personal preference.
And perhaps they'll just ignore the landmark 25th release...but that's not really the sort of behavior one expects from publicity/marketing people -{
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There wasn't an awful lot of noise for Bond 20, which was a much more round anniversary, guess they may have been already getting prepared for 50 years. If the marketing crew has changed, who knows what approach they will take. So far it has been quite inconsistent recently - EON and Craig could earn quite a bit on the side if they made it easier to make licensed 007 figurines, for instance. As it is, instead of paying exorbitant licence fees, manufacturers prefer to sell generic "secret agent" figures who only "accidentally" resemble Danny Craig... But, ultimately, all that matter is whether the movie will be good or not - not the noise they make around it, or even the title.
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The quality of the film is always key, naturally. But publicity people like angles, and #25 is an angle. #20 was DAD, the 40th Anniversary Bond, and in fact there was a fair amount of noise.
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Practically every Bond movie is an angle, and sure, there is always a fair amount of advertising, which also depends on the country. The amount of advertising for Skyfall in Australia was absolutely unprecedented, Bond was on the cover of almost every magazine. It appeared to be aimed at the general audience, who may otherwise not see a Bond movie. That was very different from DAD, which where I was appeared to be aimed at the Bond fan more than the casual moviegoer. But like I said, it may very well have been different in other countries.
Not keen on this; too much like Skyfall. I don't want to see Bond burnt out!
Understand, but blink and you missed it in Skyfall
Wasn't half of Skyfall about Bond being old and out of shape? And for the 1983 films, a fully active 55-year-old Roger Moore was far better than an over-the-hill 53-year-old Connery.
IMO, Connery looked better in NSNA than he did in DAF. Connery at any age looks like he could whip Moore's ass ) -{
If they do the retired Bond angle being called back to service they could avoid the old, burned out "Skyfall" angle by having Bond not being burned out; just retired from MI6, collecting his pension and working as a consultant or for a private firm.
Understand, but blink and you missed it in Skyfall
Wasn't half of Skyfall about Bond being old and out of shape? And for the 1983 films, a fully active 55-year-old Roger Moore was far better than an over-the-hill 53-year-old Connery.
IMO, Connery looked better in NSNA than he did in DAF. Connery at any age looks like he could whip Moore's ass ) -{
If they do the retired Bond angle being called back to service they could avoid the old, burned out "Skyfall" angle by having Bond not being burned out; just retired from MI6, collecting his pension and working as a consultant or for a private firm.
If they do the retired Bond angle being called back to service they could avoid the old, burned out "Skyfall" angle by having Bond not being burned out; just retired from MI6, collecting his pension and working as a consultant or for a private firm.
If they do the retired Bond angle being called back to service they could avoid the old, burned out "Skyfall" angle by having Bond not being burned out; just retired from MI6, collecting his pension and working as a consultant or for a private firm.
I'm on this page, no explanation required as someone else said (sorry I forget who) a simple " it didn't work out" would be enough.
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
I'm on this page, no explanation required as someone else said (sorry I forget who) a simple " it didn't work out" would be enough.
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
I'm on this page, no explanation required as someone else said (sorry I forget who) a simple " it didn't work out" would be enough.
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
He'll be back; Craig's Bond always seems to be quitting so it's not exactly out of character. I didn't see any indication that he had completely given up the job for her; it seemed to be a spur of the moment gesture (and fits with the lighter tone of SP).
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
He'll be back; Craig's Bond always seems to be quitting so it's not exactly out of character. I didn't see any indication that he had completely given up the job for her; it seemed to be a spur of the moment gesture (and fits with the lighter tone of SP).
Yeppers, agree on the "it just didn't work out" explanation. Also with Craig: he keeps going off the map, in each film there's some portion where Bond's off on his own.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
He'll be back; Craig's Bond always seems to be quitting so it's not exactly out of character. I didn't see any indication that he had completely given up the job for her; it seemed to be a spur of the moment gesture (and fits with the lighter tone of SP).
Yeppers, agree on the "it just didn't work out" explanation. Also with Craig: he keeps going off the map, in each film there's some portion where Bond's off on his own.
Being with one woman would drag Bond down as a character; that kind of storyline has to be used sparingly. By nature he seems to be a free agent so he shouldn't be tied down by anything (although arguably more job loyalty would be good).
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
He'll be back; Craig's Bond always seems to be quitting so it's not exactly out of character. I didn't see any indication that he had completely given up the job for her; it seemed to be a spur of the moment gesture (and fits with the lighter tone of SP).
"Dirty Harry" always seemed to quit at the end of each film (threw his badge away, etc) but always came back .44 Magnum in hand.
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could just be an added personal bonus for Bond. So he completes the
mission and gets "closure" on the past.
Guess it depends if it starts where directly SPECTRE finished etc but I would be happy for DC to do a non related story / new mission to end his tenure and give this linked stories a break.
Is Waltz likely to return???? I think thats a key question? If not then I would prefer the new Blofeld returned with the new Bond for continuation sake
This was sort of done in Skyfall.
I'm on this page, no explanation required as someone else said (sorry I forget who) a simple " it didn't work out" would be enough. The relationship such as it was did not seem particularly developed so no biggie in my view. I agree it might be slightly easier with another actor to draw a line under the (loosely and retrospectively) connected story lines, but not impossible. My vote would be simply to move on with or without Daniel. His involvement need not hinder anything and would need to be balanced against the considerable risk of introducing a new actor.
If they bring Blofeld back (I don't think they will and I don't think they should), he would more likely be played by a different actor to keep up with the tradition (the producers are very serious about such details). We saw him with a face scar, so the new actor would be explained as a result of plastic surgery. Same with Swann - don't think she will return. Bond girls never return, and that well-established tradition has been kept even in Craig's movies, despite the desperate efforts to link the individual movies. I could, of course, be wrong, if they already had a plan for the new script - but I doubt it, the scripts nowadays seem to be written on the run and finished at the last minute. So let's wait and see.
I do believe the 25th Bond Feature will be a significant event, and this is something to consider as we continue to speculate B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Also we recently had 50 years of Bond, compared to that I would expect movie 25 to be much more low-key. They will not top Skyfall so quickly.
And perhaps they'll just ignore the landmark 25th release...but that's not really the sort of behavior one expects from publicity/marketing people -{
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
IMO, Connery looked better in NSNA than he did in DAF. Connery at any age looks like he could whip Moore's ass
You mean a full remake of Casino Royale 1967?
Same. It's silly to have Bond fall in love with every woman; that's what makes Vesper different. Madeleine isn't presented as anything other than a nice fling; he cares about her but that doesn't mean wedding bells will ring. Seeing as the next film is probably about three years away, I don't think people will remember the character to warrent her return.
But Bond quit his job for her. That's a serious move for only a nice fling.
He'll be back; Craig's Bond always seems to be quitting so it's not exactly out of character. I didn't see any indication that he had completely given up the job for her; it seemed to be a spur of the moment gesture (and fits with the lighter tone of SP).
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Being with one woman would drag Bond down as a character; that kind of storyline has to be used sparingly. By nature he seems to be a free agent so he shouldn't be tied down by anything (although arguably more job loyalty would be good).
"Dirty Harry" always seemed to quit at the end of each film (threw his badge away, etc) but always came back .44 Magnum in hand.