Is there anyone here who DOES think Craig will return?

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  • HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Posts: 339MI6 Agent
    Interesting article stating one of his representatives has denied Daniel Craig has quit Bond.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/bond-25-daniel-craig-not-quitting-the-franchise-insists-rep-a6879456.html
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    I don't think Rachel Weisman will put pressure on Craig. And he always come back for the interesting roles. And that, at a later date, won't be 'in Hollywood' roles.....but simple British ones

    I'd like Craig to come back to doing those kinds of roles. Those features will fit Kings, generals, etc. He'd do a great Henry VIII?

    Do you think Craig is going to move back to Britain? He lives in New York now. He didn't move there because of Bond.
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  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    Guys,

    Don't you think that all this publicity of "will he, wont he?" is purely geared up to getting as many people to go and see (purchase) SPECTRE?
    It's no coincindence that this all happens during the time that it is being released on DVD / Bluray.
    The dissapointing (below 1 billion dollars at the box office) follow-up to Skyfall (although for any other film a great result) means EON are pushing the sales of SPECTRE (the most expensive bond film of all time) harder than ever.

    As far as I remember, Craig said during many interviews that he would do Bond until they stopped asking him to do them.

    He also has not come forward himself to deny or confirm any of this rubbish.

    He will be back to do at least 1 more.

    My only hope is that we get a new director for Bond 25 and I would like to nominate Christopher McQuarrie.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I don't think Rachel Weisman will put pressure on Craig. And he always come back for the interesting roles. And that, at a later date, won't be 'in Hollywood' roles.....but simple British ones

    I'd like Craig to come back to doing those kinds of roles. Those features will fit Kings, generals, etc. He'd do a great Henry VIII?

    Do you think Craig is going to move back to Britain? He lives in New York now. He didn't move there because of Bond.

    For the foreseeable future I see him in New York (mainly for tax reasons). He's kept his country seat - so who knows...
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  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    Short clip in which Gregg Wilson can be heared saying: "Daniel Craig is still Bond as far as i'm concerned!" It doesn't have to say much of course, but it's nice to see someone EON related say something like this :)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1262775/Associate-producer-Spectre-Daniel-Craig-Bond.html
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    zaphod99 wrote:

    I think that you are right. I think he never expected to be a Hollywood leading man and has always been somewhat uncomfortable with that aspect of being Bond. if one is being unkind he can on occasion give the impression that Bond is beneath him. He is however a consumate professional who even his greatest detractors could not fail to see that he did/does give it everything. I don't think he will have much problem with not being Bond, and will return to his careers initial trajectory and focus upon more independent arts oriented work where he will/would (he'said not gone yet) be in high demand.
    I agree with a lot here except the notion of his being in high demand once he leaves Bond. He did some good work before Bond, but it really was Bond that opened his career up to other high-profile things . . . most of which underperformed at the box office. And that's with the buzz from being Bond. Without it, and getting older, I'm not sure he will have much demand.


    I completely agree. Your take on fame in Hollywood is dead on (I am a professional screenwriter). Craig also bears the burden of having been the star of three potential franchises, THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO, COWBOYS AND ALIENS, and THE GOLDEN COMPASS, which all underperformed. (You could throw in TINTIN too, I suppose.) I'm not saying he was at fault for those commercial disappointments. But his box office success has only come as Bond-- and everyone in the business knows it. Maybe if one or more of these other series had caught fire, he would feel less frustrated. The role of Bond always threatens to pigeonhole an actor for the rest of his working life, but Craig seems to chafe against the reality more than some of the other men who've played 007, and maybe with good cause.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:

    I am afraid you have got Craig terribly wrong

    I read his autobiography the other day and it was very telling

    Money isn't the object. Performance art is. He comes from the English actor, he's not American in any way. he doesn't think like an American. His great love is performing ie Shakespeare etc. You mention THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO, COWBOYS AND ALIENS, and THE GOLDEN COMPASS, some of which would have been interesting roles. He will do roles which interest him. He took the Golden Compass because Tim Dalton done the stagework and it was offered to Daniel. Daniel accepted it because he is a big fan of Phillip Pullmans novel.

    Your thinking one way, I am telling you Daniel does stuff for entirely different reasons.
    Could be. But actors are a fickle lot, people change as they live and grow, and many, many actors regret giving up what they had for what they thought they would get.

    Certainly Lazenby easily fits that mold for this discussion, but there have been actors with significantly more talents and prospects than him who walked away only to discover that when they finally figured out what they wanted, no one wanted to offer it to them anymore. I don't believe Craig will ever again be as in demand as an actor again as he is as Bond. He is just too limited, not so much in talent but in appeal. He has options now. Many of those options will begin to evaporate once he leaves the role.

    When you're on top and in demand, it's easy to say no. In fact, there's a kind of empowerment that comes from it. But that goes away when people stop asking. It'll be interesting to see how well he handles things when the excitement goes away. Maybe he'll be comfortable with it, but maybe he won't. Maybe his wife won't. Maybe his friends won't be as interested in hanging out anymore. Maybe he won't have as much choice on scripts, or once he starts acting, authority to make changes. Actors don't tend to crash when things are going well. They go into the profession for attention, and they tend to fare poorly when they don't get it.

    Your putting a 'Hollywood' spin on the actor..

    He's not. Deep deep down he's a scouser. He looks at things that way. Artistic integrity is more important

    I don't think Rachel Weisman will put pressure on Craig. And he always come back for the interesting roles. And that, at a later date, won't be 'in Hollywood' roles.....but simple British ones

    I'd like Craig to come back to doing those kinds of roles. Those features will fit Kings, generals, etc. He'd do a great Henry VIII?

    He's not the kind of actor who will be chasing the shoot 'em up roles. He's no Sylvester Stallone...

    Sylvester Stallone is a manufactured 'star' chasing those rolls

    While Craig - like Dalton and Connery - is an actor
    There's a big difference between the reality of career and the temperament of the artist. Craig could certainly feel a calling as an "actor," but that doesn't mean it's the wisest thing for his career, nor than in a few years he won't regret it. Time will tell, of course. And it will be a matter of, should he leave Bond and his career go with him, how well he weathers the years when the phone hardly rings.

    Though he doesn't have the same appeal, he seems to want to track his career similar to Johnny Depp. He, too, sees himself as an actor first and has been in a few high-profile, high-profit films, as well as more than a few duds and smaller budget films. But Depp has wider appeal than Craig. He probably can make a string of failures and still have scripts coming in. That gives him cachet that, at least for now, Craig doesn't seem to have. Craig is certainly not Christian Bale or Leonardo DiCaprio.

    I can't predict the future, of course, but if I were Craig's agent, I'd be trying real hard to get him to do two more Bonds, not just for my commission but because with that cushion, and ending his tenure around 50, he might be in a better position for the future.
  • HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Posts: 339MI6 Agent
    edited February 2016
    I could be out of line here, but I have a feeling he really couldn't give a rats arse about any future fame from any (big blockbuster) films or what anyone else's opinion is.

    I personally don't believe there is a film role, which can afford actor changes, that is bigger and more impacting on ones personal life and acting career than playing Bond and I suspect he's pretty uncomfortable with the fame he already has from it so if his career takes him down a different quieter route I doubt he'll complain one bit.

    He is well known enough to pick and choose right now and probably for the next 5 years post Bond .... so if he truly is finished with Bond he'll probably tell his agent and anyone else trying to persuade him to stick around for the fame/career reason (in a reasonably nice way) to shove it.

    Doing another Bond will almost certainly be on his own terms and I doubt anyone would convince him otherwise ..... the only thing I could see which may influence those terms would be a healthy pay cheque and I wouldn't blame him one bit if that was his reasoning. EON have enough money and the franchise draws in big sponsors, so if they truly want him back for 1 or 2 more this may be a way to retain him but I can't see anything else influencing it ..... all in my opinion of course.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    I could be out of line here, but I have a feeling he really couldn't give a rats arse about any future fame from any (big blockbuster) films or what anyone else's opinion is.

    .

    Well said! You've got it. He'll go back to doing British films which interest him...
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    More news today about DC's tenure, an mgm source has said it wanted bond #25 released next year but are prepared to push back the film to 2018 to allow DC to do Purity. They say he is key to attracting finance for the film and his box office success is also important. I'll say his 4 films must have pulled in nearly 3billion.
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  • Unknown007Unknown007 Posts: 201MI6 Agent
    Think he'll make another 2 (hopefully)...............
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    More news today about DC's tenure, an mgm source has said it wanted bond #25 released next year but are prepared to push back the film to 2018 to allow DC to do Purity. They say he is key to attracting finance for the film and his box office success is also important. I'll say his 4 films must have pulled in nearly 3billion.

    Awesome! I would be up for 2018 if it means Daniel would return! (We've been doing a lot of 3 years waits anyway in the recent years... so yeah...) Do you have the source to this? :)
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    More news today about DC's tenure, an mgm source has said it wanted bond #25 released next year but are prepared to push back the film to 2018 to allow DC to do Purity. They say he is key to attracting finance for the film and his box office success is also important. I'll say his 4 films must have pulled in nearly 3billion.

    Awesome! I would be up for 2018 if it means Daniel would return! (We've been doing a lot of 3 years waits anyway in the recent years... so yeah...) Do you have the source to this? :)
    Yes it's in various newspapers in the UK today, I've read it in the express and also the sun, pretty much same worded articles. If it had just been in the sun I wouldn't have put much significance to it.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It would be nice to have him back in the holster and Tux once more. -{
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  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    Pushed back to 2018? Well, it's comforting to know at least the original intention is a traditional 2 year cycle. Although 3 year gaps have become a bit more common, it's not the official new norm. I wonder if Cubby would have pushed back AVTAK for Roger Moore in the same situation? Say, had Moore's The Naked Face had a longer shoot?
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    ToTheRight wrote:
    Pushed back to 2018? Well, it's comforting to know at least the original intention is a traditional 2 year cycle. Although 3 year gaps have become a bit more common, it's not the official new norm. I wonder if Cubby would have pushed back AVTAK for Roger Moore in the same situation? Say, had Moore's The Naked Face had a longer shoot?

    I really wonder though had Craig not been tied to the TV series if the next Bond would have truly been released in 2017 anyway. ?:) A 2 year cycle seems so uncommon nowadays. There's always a reason or an excuse to have a larger gab between the films. To be fair though, the last time the series have had a two year gab, I found the new film to be very rushed and the most dissapointing one in years (QoS)...

    But still, 2018 sounds better than 2019! And like I said before: I'm all up for waiting a bit longer again if it means Craig returns a fifth time.

    But god would it be nice to be back on a two year cycle in all honesty! Fans were really spoiled in the past :P
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    They really are the gang that can't shoot straight anymore when it comes to just making the movie. Some of the Connery Bonds were made barely a year apart, and they're still better than what we get now -- bigger, more cinematic, more enjoyable.

    More time doesn't seem to lead to a better product or necessarily even a greater profit. It's interesting when one thinks of box office. Skyfall is constantly touted as having made more than $1 billion, but it took four years to come to fruition. They could have made two Bond films in that time, and I suspect they each would have made at least half as much, and likely a lot more. Even with marketing costs, the final take likely would have been more than with Skyfall alone.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    More time doesn't seem to lead to a better product or necessarily even a greater profit.

    More time doesn't necessarily mean more work is done on a film. Casino Royale and Skyfall are not the results of them making the films for four years.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    More time doesn't seem to lead to a better product or necessarily even a greater profit.

    More time doesn't necessarily mean more work is done on a film. Casino Royale and Skyfall are not the results of them making the films for four years.
    It definitely doesn't mean so in this case.
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    Gregg Wilson has revealed that EON is now already starting with the first ideas and doodles for Bond 25 at this point:

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/spectre/39026/james-bond-25-to-look-at-what-is-the-world-afraid-of-now
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  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:

    Just speculation. A friend of a friend. Wait until Eon confirms it...
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    edited February 2016
    bonded123 wrote:

    Just speculation. A friend of a friend. Wait until Eon confirms it...

    He's a close friend and not from what I can tell not given to hyperbole. I think if EON were in a position to deny it they would do.it could all be negotiating strategy but I don't think it feels like it.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    If Asp9mm said Craig has left, I'll go with his word. But Connery left and came back, so Craig's could too.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,774MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    If Asp9mm said Craig has left, I'll go with his word.

    Agreed. I think Craig is done and they're just waiting for the BluRay rollout to conclude. We'll probably get the official announcement in the summer.
  • HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Posts: 339MI6 Agent
    I take this with a pinch of salt, too many "I think" and "possibly" statements for my liking.

    Probably just more speculating on his part. I'd also be very surprised if EON or DC would let the real decision slip to anyone who could talk to the media given they will want to announce it fully themselves.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I take this with a pinch of salt, too many "I think" and "possibly" statements for my liking.

    Probably just more speculating on his part. I'd also be very surprised if EON or DC would let the real decision slip to anyone who could talk to the media given they will want to announce it fully themselves.
    Bingo.
  • HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Posts: 339MI6 Agent
    I'd also imagine some artistic editing to sensationalise the report
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited February 2016
    I'd also imagine some artistic editing to sensationalise the report

    Given the instant nature of the internet, I think we should expect the following from such newspapers as The Sun, Daily Mail etc...

    DANIEL CRAIG QUITS BOND!

    DANIEL CRAIG CHANGES HIS MIND!

    IDRIS ELBA SIGNS AS NEW BOND!

    WHO THE HECK IS IDRIS ELBA ANYWAY?

    DANIEL CRAIG RETURNS AS BOND!

    Yes, I'm sure it's gonna be a fun two or more years of wonderful news stories brimming with uncanny accuracy and in-depth analysis. :D
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    DANIEL CRAIG QUITS BOND!

    Something along the lines of this was a headline in a Dutch news paper today. When I saw it I skipped some heart beates. Can't believe the headlines based on rumors sometimes...
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