And, everyone at AJB collectively turns green with envy. ) fantastic man. You killed it with that outfit! I agree, walther p99, these are some of my favorites from the movie too, and didn't look all that good with the Dior. I would have liked to see black cords or jeans.
Its not so much that they didn't look good with the Dior, more so I don't think its the appropriate type of pants to wear for the situation.
I agree. Cords would have been a much better choice, though I don't think black would have gone well with the blue jacket. Medium grey wool flannel would have been a great choice, to sort of copy the look of the pea coat and grey trousers from Skyfall.
I never expect anyone to. Even a mate of mine who shares a love of Bond did not recognise the outfit as he doesn't share the same passion for the lifestyle/clothing aspect. It's a rare thing this obsession some of us have!
Cheeky question - is there any chance (or indeed spare material) to send a small square of original material from an inside pocket or turn up, to Indy so that he can try to source some matching material?
Good point walther p99, living in Florida, I didn't even think about how those pants wouldn't be appropriate for that kind of cold. It rarely gets below 50F here
Good idea Mattt, I like that mix. David Z had a video of him wearing the cable knit turtleneck, a pair of black or blue jeans, and a pair of Islay's at a Crocket & Jones store. He didn't have the Doir on, but I liked what he did with that look.
To be honest, I never thought I would be questioning Craig's casual wear as much as I did in Spectre. I think it's because the casual wear in Skyfall, QoS, and CR (for the most part) was so iconic.
Good point walther p99, living in Florida, I didn't even think about how those pants wouldn't be appropriate for that kind of cold. It rarely gets below 50F here
Good idea Mattt, I like that mix. David Z had a video of him wearing the cable knit turtleneck, a pair of black or blue jeans, and a pair of Islay's at a Crocket & Jones store. He didn't have the Doir on, but I liked what he did with that look.
To be honest, I never thought I would be questioning Craig's casual wear as much as I did in Spectre. I think it's because the casual wear in Skyfall, QoS, and CR (for the most part) was so iconic.
I ask myself two questions in regards to Bond's casual clothes: Is he appropriately dressed for the situation? and are the brands he's wearing a good representation of the character? An example being the SF Scotland outfit. His attire perfectly fits the cold environment he's in and the entire outfit except for the scarf consists of mostly high end English brands that fit the character perfectly. In Spectre I was surprised by some of the brands he wore like J.Crew, Danner and Dior. Not that they're bad brands but because they're not ones I would've ever thought the character would wear. Its easier for me picture Craig's Bond walking into Crockett and Jones or N.Peal then J.Crew.
To be honest, I never thought I would be questioning Craig's casual wear as much as I did in Spectre. I think it's because the casual wear in Skyfall, QoS, and CR (for the most part) was so iconic.
100% agree. I've mentioned it before, but most of the SP outfits just don't make much sense to me. Some items seem as if they were included for the sake of marketing, or there just wan't much thought put into it to begin with. It took me out of the movie occasionally.
To be honest, I never thought I would be questioning Craig's casual wear as much as I did in Spectre. I think it's because the casual wear in Skyfall, QoS, and CR (for the most part) was so iconic.
100% agree. I've mentioned it before, but most of the SP outfits just don't make much sense to me. Some items seem as if they were included for the sake of marketing, or there just wan't much thought put into it to begin with. It took me out of the movie occasionally.
Yeah, I mentioned this before but a few pieces of the SP casual outfits seemed too "costume-y", that were perhaps not the best choice for a middle-aged gentleman agent or his current situation.
I'm not going to comment on the clothing choices made by Craig and the wardrobe people from the different films. Everyone's taste will vary. What I can share is some data from my website, which I think can tell us a lot about what people are interested in.
Far and away the most popular posts have been the ones on the Harrington look and the Mathis Villa look from QoS. The only ones from SPECTRE that come close are the BC jacket, chinos, TF tie and J.Crew Kentons posts. Further down the list, the Mr. White Jacket, TF Solden and NB trousers are still doing okay. Interest in the Matchless jacket has really died off. From Skyfall, the Barbour and BR Pea Coat posts are still going strong. From Casino Royale, the only one that gets a lot of traffic is the Riviera Polo post, but it gets about half the traffic as the Harrington.
So basically, the most popular looks from QoS are still VERY popular. The popular looks from Skyfall are still relatively popular. From SPECTRE, the BC Morocco look still generates a great deal of interest. But the other pieces from that film are about average. And people seem to be less interested in his clothing from CR.
I'm not going to comment on the clothing choices made by Craig and the wardrobe people from the different films. Everyone's taste will vary. What I can share is some data from my website, which I think can tell us a lot about what people are interested in.
Far and away the most popular posts have been the ones on the Harrington look and the Mathis Villa look from QoS. The only ones from SPECTRE that come close are the BC jacket, chinos, TF tie and J.Crew Kentons posts. Further down the list, the Mr. White Jacket, TF Solden and NB trousers are still doing okay. Interest in the Matchless jacket has really died off. From Skyfall, the Barbour and BR Pea Coat posts are still going strong. From Casino Royale, the only one that gets a lot of traffic is the Riviera Polo post, but it gets about half the traffic as the Harrington.
So basically, the most popular looks from QoS are still VERY popular. The popular looks from Skyfall are still relatively popular. From SPECTRE, the BC Morocco look still generates a great deal of interest. But the other pieces from that film are about average. And people seem to be less interested in his clothing from CR.
Gotta love analytics! )
That's interesting, I wonder if the availability of the clothes affects its popularity at all in some cases? Since Spectre had the biggest release of Bond clothing available to buy for the public, so naturally I think interest in it will dwindle overtime except for the rare pieces like the entire BC train outfit which you said parts of it still generate interest.
Surely there is a weather and season element to popularity? For sure I think qos had such timeless looks it will remain heavily looked at, even the cut and fit of the clothes in that film are still relevant, when a new film comes out there is always a clamour for the look but quite quickly people realise they will never wear certain pieces or put an outfit together and then never actually wear it. Id expect the morrocco bc outfit to gain momentum again next spring summer. Just look at how many solden /Mr white/ varvatos jackets have been up for grabs on here recently UNWORN! I tend to buy pieces that mix in with my wardrobe, will cross over with other pieces and that I will actually wear.
Interestingly all of Canoe2's popular posts are also heavily influenced by Steve McQueen - Harrington Jackets, polo shirts, shawl collar cardigans, Barbour and peacoats. All iconic pieces that have stood the test of time.
That's interesting, I wonder if the availability of the clothes affects its popularity at all in some cases? Since Spectre had the biggest release of Bond clothing available to buy for the public, so naturally I think interest in it will dwindle overtime except for the rare pieces like the entire BC train outfit which you said parts of it still generate interest.
Like anything fashion related, I think the popularity of certain looks is a mix of various factors. About 20% of my site traffic comes from AJB, so it's not just the fine folks here that are looking for these pieces. And out of the other 80% that visit, I couldn't even guess what percentage actually know that the Harrington and cardigan were made by TF and/or how rare they are. But I'd guess it's small.
Two things I think do matter are the amount of exposure all the popular looks received during the promotion of each the films and the shelf life of those images. For example, the NB trousers are a popular post, and those trousers were featured prominently in the advertising. So there are more searches for "SPECTRE Poster Pants" than "Neil Barrett James Bond pants". The whole BC post-train Morocco look, the TF Solden and (to a lesser extent) the Dior jacket were also used a lot in the marketing.
As for the looks/pieces from the earlier films: the QoS promo pic of Bond in the Harrington in the desert is almost iconic now. Same with that shot from QoS of him running in the TF polo, jeans and chukkas on top of the hotel. His Mathis Villa look also got a lot of play on style blogs, forums, etc. for revitalizing the shawl collar cardigan at the time; even today it's hard to find an article on a style blog about men's cardigans that doesn't include one pic of Craig in that outfit. So it lives on ...
One other factor I think has an impact is how "classic" the look and/or piece is. My results don't suggest that people search for the "Barbour X To Ki To". They search for the "James Bond Barbour". It's like two iconic/classic names put together increase the popularity of the piece exponentially. Everyone knows Bond; lots more people know Barbour compared to, say, N.Peal. The Harrington jacket is a very popular style that's been around for decades. So again, you get people looking for "James Bond Harrington". Same with the cardigan, the polo, the Menlo, the chukkas. People don't search for the brand name. They enter "James Bond + style name" and sometimes "+movie title". So it's "James Bond blazer Spectre", "James Bond suede boots", "James Bond leather jacket Skyfall". Edit: Just to add I didn't see Tennyson's post until after I posted this, and he said all this much better than I have!
I think how the outfit was used in the film also matters a lot. Both the Harrington and Barbour got a lot of screen time and were used in some of the biggest action sequences. Film goers got a really good look at them. So they'll stick out in people's minds. Compare that to the London finale in SPECTRE. It was so dark that I'd bet the average movie goer thought Bond was basically dressed in all black. Or the Matchless: basically Bond only used it for walking around and talking. If the article of clothing was used in a "cool" or "exciting" scene, then it's more likely to be remembered.
Sorry for the essay! I'm a bit of a geek when it comes to data interpretation. This is fun for me; probably boring for others ...
Surely there is a weather and season element to popularity? For sure I think qos had such timeless looks it will remain heavily looked at, even the cut and fit of the clothes in that film are still relevant, when a new film comes out there is always a clamour for the look but quite quickly people realise they will never wear certain pieces or put an outfit together and then never actually wear it. Id expect the morrocco bc outfit to gain momentum again next spring summer. Just look at how many solden /Mr white/ varvatos jackets have been up for grabs on here recently UNWORN! I tend to buy pieces that mix in with my wardrobe, will cross over with other pieces and that I will actually wear.
I think that's also a contributing factor and why things like the TF sunglasses, BC chinos and casual footwear become so popular because they're items that people can actually wear everyday. Not many people need or would wear a $5,000 Dior jacket during winter.
Not boring at all Canoe. Your site by itself contributes a lot to this community, but your analytics fascinate me. It's especially interesting that 80% of your readers come from outside the community. The ability to track what outfits are making the most impact on the non-Bond-obsessed-buying-public is very unique and is a fantastic contribution to this community. {[]
Not boring at all Canoe. Your site by itself contributes a lot to this community, but your analytics fascinate me. It's especially interesting that 80% of your readers come from outside the community. The ability to track what outfits are making the most impact on the non-Bond-obsessed-buying-public is very unique and is a fantastic contribution to this community. {[]
Completely agree. The analytics also give my own obsession validation.
I still have a black pair of the Neil Barrett spectre trousers available for sale if anyone is interested. The size is 48.
I would say ideal for a 30-31 waist. Asking $300 or best offer.
Canoe2's analysis actually supports my own feelings and thoughts. QOS may have been my least favourite film in terms of content for reasons well known. But style wise it has my 3 main goto outfits. The Black Y3 look, Mathis pad TF Shawl Cardi with Sta Prest and the Navy Harrington outfit. I love brown suede ankle boots and have lived in mine for the last 8 plus years (a good pair can be resoled many times) and they go with all 3 result. I actually picked up a PO between CR and QOS and a rubber OEM to cover both looks. Fortunately at the time I bagged some TF 108's and love them and worn as much as my boots (so much I bought 207's to prolong their life)
Skyfall comes close second with PTS TF suit look, enjoying death and of course Skyfall Barbour look. PO and AT came in due course as they grew on me. Eventually picked up Bobby V, COS tie, Peacoat,Dents and Markos over the years.
I loved Casino but only really the free running outfit by cross matching with other purchases I also created the Miami outfit. I own a black tux but had that for years lastly some Perla trunks on the second release and a Sunspel or two over the years.
For SPECTRE London JV on a Budget though thanks to Zara and M&S (because I picked up SM300), suits but I had most colours already so just picked up a few choice ties and Solden outfit thanks to a Moncler find in CPH, but will never resolve those TF strides (though off to NY for New Year so may get some Danner Mountains as I do some outside work). I treated myself to an NPeal turtle neck but never stretched to the grey rollneck maybe this year who knows.
I seem to pick up 3 looks from each film each with at least one actual item over the following years or until the next film comes out. However QOS seems to have had the biggest influence all round for my other non Bond styles as well - simple, timeless yet elegant.
It's a funny old world but from the Brosnan era all I have is my SMP and 3 T&A ties!
I have no doubt the collection will grow over time - patience is your friend. Only took me 10 years to pick up a pair of Converse OTRs. What I will say is that as each film released the key items of clothing in it have increased in value massively meaning initially I tend to go for 'in the style of' rather than the genuine articles which still draws a nice comment or two. Any genuine articles come up over time and by opportunity as and when. But I buy to wear so everything will wear out eventually but by that time Bond 25 will be out and it starts all over again
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
To back up the Qofs popularity thoughts. I recently put a pair of 7FAM Mercers on EBay, with dark hardware (as near as poss to DCs) and the interest and sale price was immediate and huge....
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I agree. Cords would have been a much better choice, though I don't think black would have gone well with the blue jacket. Medium grey wool flannel would have been a great choice, to sort of copy the look of the pea coat and grey trousers from Skyfall.
Westward_Drift...not one person noticed
I never expect anyone to. Even a mate of mine who shares a love of Bond did not recognise the outfit as he doesn't share the same passion for the lifestyle/clothing aspect. It's a rare thing this obsession some of us have!
Good idea Mattt, I like that mix. David Z had a video of him wearing the cable knit turtleneck, a pair of black or blue jeans, and a pair of Islay's at a Crocket & Jones store. He didn't have the Doir on, but I liked what he did with that look.
To be honest, I never thought I would be questioning Craig's casual wear as much as I did in Spectre. I think it's because the casual wear in Skyfall, QoS, and CR (for the most part) was so iconic.
CR/QoS, TLD, DN, GE, TSWLM, LTK, TND, TWiNE, TMWTGG, TB
http://www.iconicalternatives.com/author/james-brosnan/
https://www.instagram.com/shawn.michael.bongiorno/
100% agree. I've mentioned it before, but most of the SP outfits just don't make much sense to me. Some items seem as if they were included for the sake of marketing, or there just wan't much thought put into it to begin with. It took me out of the movie occasionally.
Far and away the most popular posts have been the ones on the Harrington look and the Mathis Villa look from QoS. The only ones from SPECTRE that come close are the BC jacket, chinos, TF tie and J.Crew Kentons posts. Further down the list, the Mr. White Jacket, TF Solden and NB trousers are still doing okay. Interest in the Matchless jacket has really died off. From Skyfall, the Barbour and BR Pea Coat posts are still going strong. From Casino Royale, the only one that gets a lot of traffic is the Riviera Polo post, but it gets about half the traffic as the Harrington.
So basically, the most popular looks from QoS are still VERY popular. The popular looks from Skyfall are still relatively popular. From SPECTRE, the BC Morocco look still generates a great deal of interest. But the other pieces from that film are about average. And people seem to be less interested in his clothing from CR.
Gotta love analytics!
Like anything fashion related, I think the popularity of certain looks is a mix of various factors. About 20% of my site traffic comes from AJB, so it's not just the fine folks here that are looking for these pieces. And out of the other 80% that visit, I couldn't even guess what percentage actually know that the Harrington and cardigan were made by TF and/or how rare they are. But I'd guess it's small.
Two things I think do matter are the amount of exposure all the popular looks received during the promotion of each the films and the shelf life of those images. For example, the NB trousers are a popular post, and those trousers were featured prominently in the advertising. So there are more searches for "SPECTRE Poster Pants" than "Neil Barrett James Bond pants". The whole BC post-train Morocco look, the TF Solden and (to a lesser extent) the Dior jacket were also used a lot in the marketing.
As for the looks/pieces from the earlier films: the QoS promo pic of Bond in the Harrington in the desert is almost iconic now. Same with that shot from QoS of him running in the TF polo, jeans and chukkas on top of the hotel. His Mathis Villa look also got a lot of play on style blogs, forums, etc. for revitalizing the shawl collar cardigan at the time; even today it's hard to find an article on a style blog about men's cardigans that doesn't include one pic of Craig in that outfit. So it lives on ...
One other factor I think has an impact is how "classic" the look and/or piece is. My results don't suggest that people search for the "Barbour X To Ki To". They search for the "James Bond Barbour". It's like two iconic/classic names put together increase the popularity of the piece exponentially. Everyone knows Bond; lots more people know Barbour compared to, say, N.Peal. The Harrington jacket is a very popular style that's been around for decades. So again, you get people looking for "James Bond Harrington". Same with the cardigan, the polo, the Menlo, the chukkas. People don't search for the brand name. They enter "James Bond + style name" and sometimes "+movie title". So it's "James Bond blazer Spectre", "James Bond suede boots", "James Bond leather jacket Skyfall". Edit: Just to add I didn't see Tennyson's post until after I posted this, and he said all this much better than I have!
I think how the outfit was used in the film also matters a lot. Both the Harrington and Barbour got a lot of screen time and were used in some of the biggest action sequences. Film goers got a really good look at them. So they'll stick out in people's minds. Compare that to the London finale in SPECTRE. It was so dark that I'd bet the average movie goer thought Bond was basically dressed in all black. Or the Matchless: basically Bond only used it for walking around and talking. If the article of clothing was used in a "cool" or "exciting" scene, then it's more likely to be remembered.
Sorry for the essay! I'm a bit of a geek when it comes to data interpretation. This is fun for me; probably boring for others ...
CR/QoS, TLD, DN, GE, TSWLM, LTK, TND, TWiNE, TMWTGG, TB
http://www.iconicalternatives.com/author/james-brosnan/
https://www.instagram.com/shawn.michael.bongiorno/
(These are not the charcoal pair)
I still have a black pair of the Neil Barrett spectre trousers available for sale if anyone is interested. The size is 48.
I would say ideal for a 30-31 waist. Asking $300 or best offer.
Skyfall comes close second with PTS TF suit look, enjoying death and of course Skyfall Barbour look. PO and AT came in due course as they grew on me. Eventually picked up Bobby V, COS tie, Peacoat,Dents and Markos over the years.
I loved Casino but only really the free running outfit by cross matching with other purchases I also created the Miami outfit. I own a black tux but had that for years lastly some Perla trunks on the second release and a Sunspel or two over the years.
For SPECTRE London JV on a Budget though thanks to Zara and M&S (because I picked up SM300), suits but I had most colours already so just picked up a few choice ties and Solden outfit thanks to a Moncler find in CPH, but will never resolve those TF strides (though off to NY for New Year so may get some Danner Mountains as I do some outside work). I treated myself to an NPeal turtle neck but never stretched to the grey rollneck maybe this year who knows.
I seem to pick up 3 looks from each film each with at least one actual item over the following years or until the next film comes out. However QOS seems to have had the biggest influence all round for my other non Bond styles as well - simple, timeless yet elegant.
It's a funny old world but from the Brosnan era all I have is my SMP and 3 T&A ties!
I have no doubt the collection will grow over time - patience is your friend. Only took me 10 years to pick up a pair of Converse OTRs. What I will say is that as each film released the key items of clothing in it have increased in value massively meaning initially I tend to go for 'in the style of' rather than the genuine articles which still draws a nice comment or two. Any genuine articles come up over time and by opportunity as and when. But I buy to wear so everything will wear out eventually but by that time Bond 25 will be out and it starts all over again
Cheers :007)
1. CR. 2. TSWLM. 3. LTK. 4. GF. 5. SF.