Which villain was the most evil?

Jarvio

I think I would have to say Drax. Purely because of his intentions, he aimed to kill all humans on earth.

Who would you say was the most evil?

hehadlotsofguts

Add Sanchez to that list as well.Mainly because of the creative ways that he would punish henchmen

Thunderbird 2

Jarvio wrote:

I think I would have to say Drax. Purely because of his intentions, he aimed to kill all humans on earth.

Who would you say was the most evil?

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Thunderbird Too.

Except - Stromberg was just as bad planning global destruction for the same ends but for an underwater utopia in TSWLM.

I would include Blofeld in YOLT, except he had Spectre working in conjunction with other. (It seems to imply China.)

MooseWithFleas

Lewis Gilbert sure had some evil villains!

Drax - Destroying and recreating the human race is pretty ambitious and evil!

Stromberg - Starting nuclear war for purposes of starting underwater civilization.

In addition...

Eliot Carver - Starting World War III for profit is pretty selfish and evil.

Good point on Sanchez, just for the cruelty of how he disposed of his enemies and allies alike.

Manxman

Drax, who wanted to destroy virtually the entire human race. (This, of course, is one of the great weaknesses of Moonraker — why didn't anyone who heard about his intentions call the nearest secure mental hospital and schedule a pick-up?)

heartbroken_mr_drax

I'd say Elektra is pretty evil, even though it isn't on a world scale. She went along with the killing of her father, tricking a family friend (lovely Judi Dench), falling in love with Bond and then detonating a nuclear bomb in Istanbul to wipe out other pipelines and push the business!

Evil!

MilleniumForce

Stromberg, Drax, Zorin, Sanchez, Carver, Elektra.

Jarvio

Without giving away any spoilers, I also think the SP villain is pretty damn evil.

James Suzuki

Jarvio wrote:

Without giving away any spoilers, I also think the SP villain is pretty damn evil.

+1
I also find Kanagha's plot about heroin pretty evil in LALD

broadshoulder

I'd have to say Drax. The Nazi side is showing

am747

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

broadshoulder

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

The Red Kind

1. Drax
2. Blofeld
3. Stromberg
4. Carver
5. Graves

am747

broadshoulder wrote:

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

broadshoulder

am747 wrote:

broadshoulder wrote:

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

No mention of "relatively speaking"

am747

broadshoulder wrote:

am747 wrote:

broadshoulder wrote:

Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

No mention of "relatively speaking"

"relatively speaking" is implied .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler

broadshoulder

am747 wrote:

broadshoulder wrote:

am747 wrote:

True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

No mention of "relatively speaking"

"relatively speaking" is implied .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler

Oh "implied" is it? (rolls eyes)

Just messing with you ) ) )

MilleniumForce

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

am747

broadshoulder wrote:

am747 wrote:

broadshoulder wrote:

The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

No mention of "relatively speaking"

"relatively speaking" is implied .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler

Oh "implied" is it? (rolls eyes)

Just messing with you ) ) )

) {[]

am747

MilleniumForce wrote:

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot

MilleniumForce

am747 wrote:

MilleniumForce wrote:

am747 wrote:

While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot

No, I'm just saying that you said Zorin and Blofeld were more evil because they were willing to kill 1000s. And the number of people they plan to kill should be taken into account.

am747

MilleniumForce wrote:

am747 wrote:

MilleniumForce wrote:

I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot

No, I'm just saying that you said Zorin and Blofeld were more evil because they were willing to kill 1000s. And the number of people they plan to kill should be taken into account.

Willing to kill 1000s of people "to make a profit or push an agenda". So for theses types, it is more about $ and/or world domination even at the cost of making lives / planet miserable or unlivable for others

Now take Drax for example. He would have figured that humans are going to destroy the planet anyways (and is full of Zorins and Blofelds). When the world gets destroyed, plants and animals get destroyed too. We can see how we have taken over almost every inch of this planet with little left for other species. Continued GH emissions could severely impact the planet. In an environment such as this, trying to create a new world where a positive ecosystem is maintained is not necessarily a bad intent "relatively"

Take Dr. Strangelove for example. In that film, in the event of a nuclear disaster, it is discussed to keep the finest specimens in a safe environment )

Agent Purple

I'll go with Drax, even if his plan is an altered version of Stromberg's, it's still very evil.

Zorin has to be mentioned as well. It takes a lot of malice to massacre your own workers.

Virgil37

I'd say Sanchez and Silva off the top of my head.

am747

Sanchez's character seems to be inspired by Pablo Escobar. There is a nice series on Escobar on Netflix

hehadlotsofguts

He was also influenced from Noriega.

Grindelwald

Dunno most evil but imo Zorin was the most cruel......he reminds me of punks who torture/drown animals to death and are amused by it , heck even Scarpine seemed a bit shocked by it all (I guess Scarpine was the Martin Bormann of ZI , getting the dirty work done...while Zorin actually enjoyed torturing his men)

heartbroken_mr_drax

Grindelwald wrote:

heck even Scarpine seemed a bit shocked by it all

Well Scarpine was a great guy! He laughed at "What the devil's wrong with these shoes..."

Agent Purple

Zorin was a psychopath. He lacked a moral conscience, he didn't care at all about causing harm to others, he was a complete monster.

Not caring about causing the death of many people in the process of getting to have a bigger hold of the microchip market takes a really sick man.

Julius No M.D.

Stromberg and Drax are the most evil. Like comparing Hitler and Stalin. Which is worse: someone who wants to kill most people or someone who wants kill most people and ethnically cleanse?

broadshoulder

Julius No M.D. wrote:

Stromberg and Drax are the most evil. Like comparing Hitler and Stalin. Which is worse: someone who wants to kill most people or someone who wants kill most people and ethnically cleanse?

Agree with this. Someone who wants to wipe out mankind from behind a desk. Both driven by ideology. Very much Hitler and Stalin. Both were visionaries and were deluded.