SPECTRE - Why it's plot twist isn't that bad

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  • UNCLE27UNCLE27 EnglandPosts: 1,144MI6 Agent
    EON may have used the same car and adapted it for use in Skyfall and The 50th Anniversary but I still think in the actual timeline of the story they are separate cars. It makes far more sense. To me.

    After all, Bond (the character) wasn't celebrating a 50th Anniversary.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    UNCLE27 wrote:
    EON may have used the same car and adapted it for use in Skyfall and The 50th Anniversary but I still think in the actual timeline of the story they are separate cars. It makes far more sense. To me.

    After all, Bond (the character) wasn't celebrating a 50th Anniversary.

    It's a completely different car in reality, but the writers wanted it to be the same car. It's supposed to be Bond's personal car.
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    The CR DB5 was introduced as a "buy-in". It was DC's "this never happened to the other fella" - and where that DB5 is now, who cares?

    The DB5 in Skyfall was introduced as a bit of fan w@nk again but, this time it made sense. It was a moth balled MI6 DB5 from another era that Bond, being a lover of Aston Martins must have known about. Or Q told him - there was quite a bit of time passed between Bond kidnapping M and arriving at the storage location.

    Anyway, it was a job car - that explains the armaments.

    This theory is further reinforced in Spectre when Q says to Bond "I told you to bring it back in one piece..."

    If it was Bond's own car, why would Q say that?

    I have to say, I'm not sure why Q Branch bothered to repair it if it was totally wrecked. Other than to provide a bit more fan w@nk at the end.

    Or is Bond 25 going to feature a cracking chase with the DB5 and Bond using all the weapons systems again?

    Whilst talking about DB5s - the Goldeneye DB5 is Bond's personal car. The novelisation mentions how Bond bid for it in an auction when old fleet was decommissioned.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Here's the SPECTRE review I wrote for MI6:

    SPECTRE 2015:

    BOND- 5/5
    Dan demonstrates how he owns the role in SPECTRE, over and over. Take for instance that little smile after the brutal and dangerous helicopter fight in the PTS that shows Bond taking a brief moment to enjoy flying (so completely and ONLY Bond)- there are a very few actors in the world that could have pulled that simple moment off so believably, so subtly & so boldly without straying into silly self-awareness or parody- luckily for US, Dan is one of them.

    WOMEN - 4.5/5
    Monica is as stunning as ever but her role is more like an extended cameo than a real part, that said she makes her mark in this movie and lends her inevitable touch of class to the proceedings. Lea graduates from Hunt to Bond, and she deserves the promotion. Sultry, vulnerable, fearless in a pinch, she reminds me a little of Grace Kelly in a Hitchcock film.

    VILLAINS- 4/5
    Christopher Waltz is quietly mesmerizing as the high-functioning psychotic version of Blofeld. The connection between he and Bond manufactured for this entry, whilst hard to fully embrace, is nonetheless played to perfection. Never in your face, merely like a bee buzzing about that you can't quite locate. Dave Bautista's Hinx is a magnificent henchman, sort of like Oddjob with a more inclusive job description & a mean streak.

    HUMOR- 4/5
    "... piece of the car." The humour is spot on- not silly, not too dry, always seems well placed and never forced.

    ACTION- 3/5
    The PTS fight was the best big set piece, the Hinx fight was the best had to hand since Slate (but longer & more exciting IMO), but other than those two scenes the action was rather tame. The car chase was pretty, but none too eventful.
    Nice 'splosion later though.

    SADISM-4.5/5
    The eye gouge and the drill chair rate this one as fairly gruesome. Blofeld's plan to make Bond choose between his life and attempting to rescue Madeline was also not-so-nice.

    LOCATIONS-4/5
    Lots of great locations, however Mendes seems more interested in focusing on the actors. Hey look! The Roman Colo- well, it WAS just there.... blink & you miss.

    MUSIC- 3/5
    Sorry fans, but the title song is merely serviceable. The score itself isn't bad at all, it just needed the Bond theme entirely more often.

    GADGETS- 3/5
    A fast car & a nice watch. Not a lot to see here, but as much as Dan's Bond needs, I conjure.

    SUPPORTING CAST- 5/5
    Fiennes' M was a bit irritable (but he IS new, and it's high stress position), however the supporting cast did their jobs as well as one could possibly hope for. Moneypenny having a 'life' was an interesting touch.

    OVERALL THOUGHTS AND RECOLLECTIONS- 40/50
    A proper gunbarrel prepared me for the most thoroughly enjoyable entry in this Century. 40/50 might seem rather low, but that's because there were a lot of aspects to this film that worked well, but not amazingly well. The foster connection, the retconning to make SPECTRE the big tentacle behind the previous three movies, Bond seemingly leaving his job... again....
    Still, this movie is greater than the sum of it parts, and Daniel Craig in particular is the biggest reason for that. I walked out of the theatre happy as a clam, and have enjoyed each subsequent viewing more than the last.
    It's in my top ten to stay.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Nicely said, Mr C, I'm with you on most of that.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    What is MI6?? ?:)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    The one between MI5 and MI7. :)
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    :)) :)) :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Last night I was in the living room and I mentioned SPECTRE to my Son in some way and my Wife says, "What's specter?" And my Son says, "It's the latest James Bond film- the best one in a long time. :o
    *So proud of my boy* :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Last night I was in the living room and I mentioned SPECTRE to my Son in some way and my Wife says, "What's specter?" And my Son says, "It's the latest James Bond film- the best one in a long time. :o
    *So proud of my boy* :D

    Is this the first you've seen your wife in over a year? :D
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Last night I was in the living room and I mentioned SPECTRE to my Son in some way and my Wife says, "What's specter?" And my Son says, "It's the latest James Bond film- the best one in a long time. :o
    *So proud of my boy* :D

    Is this the first you've seen your wife in over a year? :D
    LOL, no, she's just NOT a Bond fan, in ANY sense of the word. Anything 'Bond' never goes to long-term memory for her. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    My recommendation would be to have a night of passion with a Bond girl then, Chrisisall. Your wife forget all about it in the morning. :D
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    A Night ? Bit hopeful time wise, I'd say. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    My recommendation would be to have a night of passion with a Bond girl then, Chrisisall. Your wife forget all about it in the morning. :D
    She would suddenly understand what a licence to kill is.... :o
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
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