Bring it back in one piece!

MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
in SPECTRE - Bond 24 (2015)
Ok, I've been thinking about this ever since I got the SP Blu Ray. Q says to Bond, about the DB5, "I told you to bring it back in one piece......" Or something like that. Wait, what? When did this happen? Did Q even know Bond was using the DB5 in SF?

But now, as I was writing that, I've just had another thought. Is it a reference? Is it almost a fourth wall break? Is it a reference to Llewlyn's Q telling Bond off about damaging his equipment?!
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think in Skyfall he asks that the equipment be returned " in one piece" before walking off.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    It was just a joke. Q did not give Bond the car in SF, and he had no idea Bond had this car. But TP is right that Q said to bring the equipment back in one piece. This just wasn't something Q was asking Bond to bring back since he didn't give it to Bond. If Q did give it to Bond it would have had a tracking system. Bond's whole reason for driving the car was because it wasn't a company car. Bond driving off in the car at the end of SP when he's no longer on the job proves that it's still Bond's personal car. I just assume that Q was fixing it for Bond as a favour.
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    Oh no, not the DB5 argument again... 8-)

    It's not Bond's personal car. It belongs to MI6. If it was Bond's own car then why would Q say: "I told you to bring it back in one piece, not bring back one piece"? Also, why would he go to Q at the end of Spectre and ask for it - if it's his?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    On the three screenings I watched in the cinema, the line got a big laugh. So
    in my world, it was a big success. :D , I don't go much deeper than that.
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    It was a very funny line, made funnier by Q's stupid laugh at his own crap joke that no one else in MI6 found funny.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    {[] Yes, I was laughing at Q's reaction to his joke. He thought it was the funniest thing, until
    Bond gave him a dirty look. Even Tanner quickly stopped laughing. :D
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    Also, why would he go to Q at the end of Spectre and ask for it - if it's his?

    Because it was Bond's car. If it belonged to Q-branch, why would they give the car to an inactive agent?
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    On the three screenings I watched in the cinema, the line got a big laugh. So
    in my world, it was a big success. :D , I don't go much deeper than that.

    Correct, nothing deeper. It's a reference to the running Q joke in the series.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    Oh no, not the DB5 argument again... 8-)

    It's not Bond's personal car. It belongs to MI6. If it was Bond's own car then why would Q say: "I told you to bring it back in one piece, not bring back one piece"? Also, why would he go to Q at the end of Spectre and ask for it - if it's his?
    Bond wins it in Casino Royale privately. He does not get issued the car by Q.

    What it sounds like is a legitimate plot hole. Q would not have been employed yet to outfit Bond's car with the gadgets in the first place -- he only meets Bond for the first time in Skyfall. Yet the line in Spectre assumes that Q has already worked on the car. (The gadgets themselves are an issue, though I suppose one could assume that Dimitrious had them installed.) The timeline of Skyfall to Spectre also suggests not enough time has passed for the car to have been repaired and destroyed yet again for the line to make sense.

    The line is meant as a joke, but it's built on an illogical premise. Coupled with just letting Bond have the car at the end suggests the writers not surprisingly made a plot hole error. What would have made more sense was for Q to say, "I believe I said to bring things back in one piece. Not one piece." As it stands, the combination of the faulty line and the ending suggest the writers just forgot what transpired in Skyfall and Casino Royale.
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    Bond wins it in Casino Royale privately. He does not get issued the car by Q.

    So who converted it to RHD ?? ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Halfords ? :D
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  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    Lol.
    Bad move if he ad it converted. Apparently more valuable in LHD :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ interesting, I didn't know that.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Revs1972 wrote:
    Bond wins it in Casino Royale privately. He does not get issued the car by Q.

    So who converted it to RHD ?? ;)
    Who knows? But I don't understand how that is germane to the discussion. It's still Bond' private car, as indicated by it being in storage with his personal belongings, as opposed to separating it as government property. Even if it literally is a different DB5 -- that somehow we're supposed to believe he acquired an identical model later for some unknown reason -- it's still treated as Bond's personal property.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I don't think it's right to blame the Germane's. :D ( sorry my schoolboy humour )
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Are you legally allowed to have deadly s**t in your car in the UK?
    In America you can go shopping with a machine gun, but you can't have one concealed in your car's grill. You could get a ticket for that.
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  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    I don't think it's right to blame the Germane's. ajb007/biggrin ( sorry my schoolboy humour )

    Just don't mention the war :007)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    "Gassy Man, mentioned it once, but I think he got away with it " :D

    Chris. In the UK, if your car is over 10 years old, you can inded put all kinds of
    " Deadly sh*t" in it. :))
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I don't think it's right to blame the Germane's. :D ( sorry my schoolboy humour )
    {[]
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    You started it X-(
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    "Gassy Man, mentioned it once, but I think he got away with it " :D

    Chris. In the UK, if your car is over 10 years old, you can inded put all kinds of
    " Deadly sh*t" in it. :))
    {[]
  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Revs1972 wrote:
    Bond wins it in Casino Royale privately. He does not get issued the car by Q.

    So who converted it to RHD ?? ;)
    Who knows? But I don't understand how that is germane to the discussion. It's still Bond' private car, as indicated by it being in storage with his personal belongings, as opposed to separating it as government property. Even if it literally is a different DB5 -- that somehow we're supposed to believe he acquired an identical model later for some unknown reason -- it's still treated as Bond's personal property.
    How do you know it's Bond's personal belongings in the lock up?
    How did M know about the armaments?

    I still stand by my original premise that it is a mothballed MI6 DB5 that Q knew about and allowed Bond to use. There is clearly a period of time between Bond 'kidnapping' M and arriving at the lock up (day to night). In that time I believe Bond has made a call to Q who has let him use the DB5.

    This then fits in with Q's joke in Spectre which indicates that he allowed Bond to take it. Q allows Bond to take it again at the end of the film. It belongs to MI6.

    The LHD DB5 was probably E-Bayed between QoS and SF due to its increased value. Certainly no one would faff about with converting it to RHD and then getting an age related registration plate when the DVLA has you jumping through these hoops:

    DVLA can only recognise your vehicle as a reconstructed classic vehicle if it meets certain criteria. It must be:
    built from genuine period components from more than one vehicle, all over 25 years old and of the same specification as the original vehicle
    a true reflection of the marque

    The appropriate vehicle owners’ club for the vehicle type (‘marque’) must inspect the vehicle and confirm in writing that it:
    has been inspected
    is a true reflection of the marque
    is comprised of genuine period components all over 25 years old

    They must also give manufacture dates for the major components.

    DVLA will assign an age-related registration number to the vehicle based on the youngest component used.

    New or replica parts

    Your vehicle won’t get an age-related registration number if it includes new or replica parts. DVLA will give your vehicle a ‘Q’ prefix registration number. Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number.

    :#
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,355MI6 Agent
    He has the tricked-out DB5 in Skyfall because Sam Mendes had the toy as a kid. That is literally all the thought that went into it, so you'll never find the hidden answer, guys!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I think that's the answer.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:
    He has the tricked-out DB5 in Skyfall because Sam Mendes had the toy as a kid. That is literally all the thought that went into it, so you'll never find the hidden answer, guys!

    You're probably right - but I'm a geek and can't help over thinking it!

    :D
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    IanT wrote:
    Oh no, not the DB5 argument again... 8-)

    It's not Bond's personal car. It belongs to MI6. If it was Bond's own car then why would Q say: "I told you to bring it back in one piece, not bring back one piece"? Also, why would he go to Q at the end of Spectre and ask for it - if it's his?
    Bond wins it in Casino Royale privately. He does not get issued the car by Q.

    What it sounds like is a legitimate plot hole. Q would not have been employed yet to outfit Bond's car with the gadgets in the first place -- he only meets Bond for the first time in Skyfall. Yet the line in Spectre assumes that Q has already worked on the car. (The gadgets themselves are an issue, though I suppose one could assume that Dimitrious had them installed.) The timeline of Skyfall to Spectre also suggests not enough time has passed for the car to have been repaired and destroyed yet again for the line to make sense.

    The line is meant as a joke, but it's built on an illogical premise. Coupled with just letting Bond have the car at the end suggests the writers not surprisingly made a plot hole error. What would have made more sense was for Q to say, "I believe I said to bring things back in one piece. Not one piece." As it stands, the combination of the faulty line and the ending suggest the writers just forgot what transpired in Skyfall and Casino Royale.

    The car (DB5) that Bond wins in CR has a blue Bahamas number plate and is left hand drive.(also the DBS's in CR and QOS.)
    In Skyfall the DB5 he gets from his lock-up garage is RHDrive and Reg-BMT216A . (which is the 60s GF and TBall car number.)

    Then in 1995's Goldeneye there's a sister pool car with Reg -BMT 214A.
    Check the Corgi toy models for confirmation as well !

    So I think James Bond has had two RHDrive DB5s and one LHDrive DB5 from the poker game in the Bahamas.

    cheers, Bleuville. P.S.-the story timeline is muddled ,as we know.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    The problem is we have nothing onscreen to confirm it either way. Given the sloppiness of the writing, I'm more inclined to believe they just bungled it by intending it to be the same car but getting another model for the actual filming, thinking no one would notice.

    But regardless, we're still left with the problem of it being Bond's personal property.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    This is making my head hurt. It's like having a loose tooth, I know I should leave it alone but...I'm both impressed and appalled by our level of Nerdery. Guys guys, there is SO much almost criminally sloppy about both films that Cargate gets lost in the noise for me and yet... ;)
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    That's so true. But it's that sloppiness that leads to debates like this!

    We will all have our own interpretation of it. I'm just presenting my (overwhelmingly brilliant :)) ) case for it being an MI6 car.
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    If it was his own I hope he had a Section 5 firearms licence for the twin Brownings :v
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