I doubt it too.
I was listening to Radio 2 this morning and they talking bond 25, and replayed an interview with DC where he was asked how long it takes to make a Bond film and he replied saying over 2 years, on that basis eon must already have some bones of Bond 25 laid out.
True - it's just another tabloid story - but the two-picture angle would appear to buttress the back to back shoot notion. We'll all add a dash of salt, and make of it what we will.
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Looks like the tabloids are really going to run with the "Craig is back" story and embellish it with old rumors and a two picture deal. Unless they are going to shoot 25 and 26 back to back I can't see Craig doing two more with the time between Bond films these days.
Thank god, that Idris Elba speculation can be put to bed
He's had a bloody good run at something he wasn't ever on a 'list' for in the first place )
I still talk to people who think he's been cast! ) Had it not been for Amy Pascal's offhand remark in one leaked email, do you think anyone in the general public would have even considered Elba playing the role?
Amy Pascal didn't come up with Elba as Bond. That had been pushed by the media already for a few years at that point. Time magazine was suggesting Elba as the next Bond at the time of Skyfall's release, and Americans (including Amy Pascal) were loving the idea then.
Looks like the tabloids are really going to run with the "Craig is back" story and embellish it with old rumors and a two picture deal. Unless they are going to shoot 25 and 26 back to back I can't see Craig doing two more with the time between Bond films these days.
The back-to-back theory would make sense for Craig, I suppose: coupled with the extra year in the meantime for him to do other things, and relax with his family, etc....then he puts his nose to the 007 grindstone in a major way, exercises all of his contracted options, makes bank...and then bids adieu.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
....Bond is the family business and a cultural icon. Michael Wilson is 75 but Barbara is only 51. Wilson's sons are both involved in the Bond films now and I could see Michael Wilson stepping back a bit....
good golly, I never realised he was so up there in the years department
I'd been assuming they were both these kids in their 20s who'd inherited dad's business and didn't really understand what it was all about
Barbara's my age, so she would have been a bit too young even during the Dalton era, i.e. college age
but Michael must have been around when the original team were still doing those classic Moore-era films in the 70s. He must be very hands-off at this point, to have allowed it all to get so far astray
He's had a bloody good run at something he wasn't ever on a 'list' for in the first place )
I still talk to people who think he's been cast! ) Had it not been for Amy Pascal's offhand remark in one leaked email, do you think anyone in the general public would have even considered Elba playing the role?
Amy Pascal didn't come up with Elba as Bond. That had been pushed by the media already for a few years at that point. Time magazine was suggesting Elba as the next Bond at the time of Skyfall's release, and Americans (including Amy Pascal) were loving the idea then.
That shows how much attention I paid to that particular rumor. As far back as Skyfall? I was giving Amy too much credit.
I still talk to people who think he's been cast! ) Had it not been for Amy Pascal's offhand remark in one leaked email, do you think anyone in the general public would have even considered Elba playing the role?
Amy Pascal didn't come up with Elba as Bond. That had been pushed by the media already for a few years at that point. Time magazine was suggesting Elba as the next Bond at the time of Skyfall's release, and Americans (including Amy Pascal) were loving the idea then.
That shows how much attention I paid to that particular rumor. As far back as Skyfall? I was giving Amy too much credit.
Funny thing is....I am an American and other than the tab and internet stuff I've never really heard anyone talk about Idris Elba being Bond or the next Bond. Maybe I'm just out of the loop? )
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Funny thing is....I am an American and other than the tab and internet stuff I've never really heard anyone talk about Idris Elba being Bond or the next Bond. Maybe I'm just out of the loop? )
I've definitely had some conversations with people about it, but all of those people have been under the age of 35. And all of those conversations have been post-Spectre/slash my wrists. Americans of a certain age feel the need to make everything into a political statement because that's the climate they have grown up in. I think the Elba thing is directly related to that phenomenon.
Funny thing is....I am an American and other than the tab and internet stuff I've never really heard anyone talk about Idris Elba being Bond or the next Bond. Maybe I'm just out of the loop? )
I've definitely had some conversations with people about it, but all of those people have been under the age of 35. And all of those conversations have been post-Spectre/slash my wrists. Americans of a certain age feel the need to make everything into a political statement because that's the climate they have grown up in. I think the Elba thing is directly related to that phenomenon.
...and it isn't even a Hollywood movie.
To Americans: in the unfortunate event that the rights are sold, keep your hands off of Bond. You have plenty of other franchises to destroy.
...and it isn't even a Hollywood movie.
To Americans: in the unfortunate event that the rights are sold, keep your hands off of Bond. You have plenty of other franchises to destroy.
Ironically, it was actually "Americans" (well, North Americans) who successfully brought Bond to the screen. But Cubby and Harry were both Anglophiles and stayed faithful to and respected Bond's British origins, culture and traditions.
...and it isn't even a Hollywood movie.
To Americans: in the unfortunate event that the rights are sold, keep your hands off of Bond. You have plenty of other franchises to destroy.
Ironically, it was actually "Americans" (well, North Americans) who successfully brought Bond to the screen. But Cubby and Harry were both Anglophiles and stayed faithful to and respected Bond's British origins, culture and traditions.
Yeah, if the rights are sold, they will just go from one group of American owners (EON/MGM) to another.
It should also be said that America doesn't just have the XXX series, but also the far better Jason Bourne.
The XXX films are awful. The most recent one was as big a bomb as the second, even with Vin Diesel back for whatever that is worth.
The first couple of Bourne films were very good. The last two, even with Matt Damon back for the most recent one, not so good.
James Bond has had its ups and downs but has stood the test of time, generation to generation.
...and it isn't even a Hollywood movie.
To Americans: in the unfortunate event that the rights are sold, keep your hands off of Bond. You have plenty of other franchises to destroy.
Ironically, it was actually "Americans" (well, North Americans) who successfully brought Bond to the screen. But Cubby and Harry were both Anglophiles and stayed faithful to and respected Bond's British origins, culture and traditions.
probaly wrong( usually am) but didn't Cubby offer the role to both Clinton Eastwood and Burt Reynolds in the early seventies and we're going to make him an American agent!!
It should also be said that America doesn't just have the XXX series, but also the far better Jason Bourne.
The XXX films are awful. The most recent one was as big a bomb as the second, even with Vin Diesel back for whatever that is worth.
The first couple of Bourne films were very good. The last two, even with Matt Damon back for the most recent one, not so good.
James Bond has had its ups and downs but has stood the test of time, generation to generation.
XXX is AWFUL!! I couldnt believe that was really a thing )
I however really enjoyed all of the Bourne films. Matt Damon is very good, and plus who else makes bad guys scared when grabbing a magazine
probaly wrong( usually am) but didn't Cubby offer the role to both Clinton Eastwood and Burt Reynolds in the early seventies and we're going to make him an American agent!!
It's hard to separate reality from Hollywood myth when it comes to who Cubby offered the Bond role to. Some theorize that Cubby would put stuff out there like that to try to gain an upper hand when Roger Moore was playing hardball when negotiating a new deal. Cubby was also known to flatter his friends by telling them they could do Bond. We do know for sure that James Brolin was screen tested for Bond and John Gavin may have also been a serious candidate for DAF had Connery not come back. I always wonder if Cubby would have had Gavin or Brolin coached up to do a proper British accent or literally would have re-booted the whole thing and made Bond American (IMO a disaster).
probaly wrong( usually am) but didn't Cubby offer the role to both Clinton Eastwood and Burt Reynolds in the early seventies and we're going to make him an American agent!!
It's hard to separate reality from Hollywood myth when it comes to who Cubby offered the Bond role to. Some theorize that Cubby would put stuff out there like that to try to gain an upper hand when Roger Moore was playing hardball when negotiating a new deal. Cubby was also known to flatter his friends by telling them they could do Bond. We do know for sure that James Brolin was screen tested for Bond and John Gavin may have also been a serious candidate for DAF had Connery not come back. I always wonder if Cubby would have had Gavin or Brolin coached up to do a proper British accent or literally would have re-booted the whole thing and made Bond American (IMO a disaster).
They might have just dubbed James Bond. They dubbed anyone they could in the old Bond films!
probaly wrong( usually am) but didn't Cubby offer the role to both Clinton Eastwood and Burt Reynolds in the early seventies and we're going to make him an American agent!!
It's hard to separate reality from Hollywood myth when it comes to who Cubby offered the Bond role to. Some theorize that Cubby would put stuff out there like that to try to gain an upper hand when Roger Moore was playing hardball when negotiating a new deal. Cubby was also known to flatter his friends by telling them they could do Bond. We do know for sure that James Brolin was screen tested for Bond and John Gavin may have also been a serious candidate for DAF had Connery not come back. I always wonder if Cubby would have had Gavin or Brolin coached up to do a proper British accent or literally would have re-booted the whole thing and made Bond American (IMO a disaster).
I tend to think that after a certain point the oft-screentested Michael Billington was being used as a bargaining chip by Cubby in negotiating with Roger Moore. He was well-built and handsome but the wig didn't help (though at least two Bonds used one) and I don't think he had the acting range. By the time of Octopussy he was perhaps a shade too old - only about 5 years older that Tim Dalton but those few years make a big difference in your forties.
probaly wrong( usually am) but didn't Cubby offer the role to both Clinton Eastwood and Burt Reynolds in the early seventies and we're going to make him an American agent!!
It's hard to separate reality from Hollywood myth when it comes to who Cubby offered the Bond role to. Some theorize that Cubby would put stuff out there like that to try to gain an upper hand when Roger Moore was playing hardball when negotiating a new deal. Cubby was also known to flatter his friends by telling them they could do Bond. We do know for sure that James Brolin was screen tested for Bond and John Gavin may have also been a serious candidate for DAF had Connery not come back. I always wonder if Cubby would have had Gavin or Brolin coached up to do a proper British accent or literally would have re-booted the whole thing and made Bond American (IMO a disaster).
John Gavin was signed up as James Bond. This is mentioned in the Making of Diamonds Are Forever DVD feature. Gavin retained his fee despite losing the role to Connery. He's the only American actor to have been cast as Eon's James Bond! Perhaps the ultimate James Bond movie trivia fact.
It's true to say many actors were approached to play Bond but not officially offered the part - actors like Clint Eastwood, Burt Reynolds, Adam West.
Timothy Dalton said he wasn't offered the part of Bond in OHMSS, he was merely approached and declined the role due to his young age.
I'm guessing the number of actors to have been given a formal offer is very small. John Gavin is one of an elite group of actors to get such an offer.
They might have just dubbed James Bond. They dubbed anyone they could in the old Bond films!
I was thinking the same thing ) . I would think that John Gavin was too big of a name to get away with dubbing. Gavin was probably a good enough actor that he could have been coached to have enough of a British accent to get away with it (he certainly looked like Bond). Lois Maxwell was actually Canadian. If you listen closely in the first few films her accent is very neutral, just a hint of Brit.
It's hard to separate reality from Hollywood myth when it comes to who Cubby offered the Bond role to. Some theorize that Cubby would put stuff out there like that to try to gain an upper hand when Roger Moore was playing hardball when negotiating a new deal. Cubby was also known to flatter his friends by telling them they could do Bond. We do know for sure that James Brolin was screen tested for Bond and John Gavin may have also been a serious candidate for DAF had Connery not come back. I always wonder if Cubby would have had Gavin or Brolin coached up to do a proper British accent or literally would have re-booted the whole thing and made Bond American (IMO a disaster).
John Gavin was signed up as James Bond. This is mentioned in the Making of Diamonds Are Forever DVD feature. Gavin retained his fee despite losing the role to Connery. He's the only American actor to have been cast as Eon's James Bond! Perhaps the ultimate James Bond movie trivia fact.
It's true to say many actors were approached to play Bond but not officially offered the part - actors like Clint Eastwood, Burt Reynolds, Adam West.
Timothy Dalton said he wasn't offered the part of Bond in OHMSS, he was merely approached and declined the role due to his young age.
I'm guessing the number of actors to have been given a formal offer is very small. John Gavin is one of an elite group of actors to get such an offer.
I think it's bit like the British honours system where an elaborate dance around offer and acceptance takes place to shore the thing up and avoid embarrassment. I recall a rumour where David Bowie made it clear that he would not accept a Knighthood so one was never offered. You could imagine it now with Hiddleston for example " if we were to offer x how would it be received?" ...or indeed DC...
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I was listening to Radio 2 this morning and they talking bond 25, and replayed an interview with DC where he was asked how long it takes to make a Bond film and he replied saying over 2 years, on that basis eon must already have some bones of Bond 25 laid out.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/movies/632581/Daniel-Craig-James-Bond-007-in-line-for-to-more-films
True - it's just another tabloid story - but the two-picture angle would appear to buttress the back to back shoot notion. We'll all add a dash of salt, and make of it what we will.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Amy Pascal didn't come up with Elba as Bond. That had been pushed by the media already for a few years at that point. Time magazine was suggesting Elba as the next Bond at the time of Skyfall's release, and Americans (including Amy Pascal) were loving the idea then.
The back-to-back theory would make sense for Craig, I suppose: coupled with the extra year in the meantime for him to do other things, and relax with his family, etc....then he puts his nose to the 007 grindstone in a major way, exercises all of his contracted options, makes bank...and then bids adieu.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I'd been assuming they were both these kids in their 20s who'd inherited dad's business and didn't really understand what it was all about
Barbara's my age, so she would have been a bit too young even during the Dalton era, i.e. college age
but Michael must have been around when the original team were still doing those classic Moore-era films in the 70s. He must be very hands-off at this point, to have allowed it all to get so far astray
That shows how much attention I paid to that particular rumor.
Actually, I just found it goes back earlier than Skyfall. Here's him addressing the rumour of him being the next Bond in September 2011, before Skyfall was even announced: http://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2011/09/28/140870300/idris-elba-the-man-who-is-luther-was-stringer-and-could-be-james-bond
I think a lot of people here underestimate what a big deal Idris Elba being Bond is to the Americans.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I've definitely had some conversations with people about it, but all of those people have been under the age of 35. And all of those conversations have been post-Spectre/slash my wrists. Americans of a certain age feel the need to make everything into a political statement because that's the climate they have grown up in. I think the Elba thing is directly related to that phenomenon.
To Americans: in the unfortunate event that the rights are sold, keep your hands off of Bond. You have plenty of other franchises to destroy.
Ironically, it was actually "Americans" (well, North Americans) who successfully brought Bond to the screen. But Cubby and Harry were both Anglophiles and stayed faithful to and respected Bond's British origins, culture and traditions.
Yeah, if the rights are sold, they will just go from one group of American owners (EON/MGM) to another.
The XXX films are awful. The most recent one was as big a bomb as the second, even with Vin Diesel back for whatever that is worth.
The first couple of Bourne films were very good. The last two, even with Matt Damon back for the most recent one, not so good.
James Bond has had its ups and downs but has stood the test of time, generation to generation.
XXX is AWFUL!! I couldnt believe that was really a thing
I however really enjoyed all of the Bourne films. Matt Damon is very good, and plus who else makes bad guys scared when grabbing a magazine
Best,
Stefan
They might have just dubbed James Bond. They dubbed anyone they could in the old Bond films!
I tend to think that after a certain point the oft-screentested Michael Billington was being used as a bargaining chip by Cubby in negotiating with Roger Moore. He was well-built and handsome but the wig didn't help (though at least two Bonds used one) and I don't think he had the acting range. By the time of Octopussy he was perhaps a shade too old - only about 5 years older that Tim Dalton but those few years make a big difference in your forties.
John Gavin was signed up as James Bond. This is mentioned in the Making of Diamonds Are Forever DVD feature. Gavin retained his fee despite losing the role to Connery. He's the only American actor to have been cast as Eon's James Bond! Perhaps the ultimate James Bond movie trivia fact.
It's true to say many actors were approached to play Bond but not officially offered the part - actors like Clint Eastwood, Burt Reynolds, Adam West.
Timothy Dalton said he wasn't offered the part of Bond in OHMSS, he was merely approached and declined the role due to his young age.
I'm guessing the number of actors to have been given a formal offer is very small. John Gavin is one of an elite group of actors to get such an offer.
I was thinking the same thing
I think it's bit like the British honours system where an elaborate dance around offer and acceptance takes place to shore the thing up and avoid embarrassment. I recall a rumour where David Bowie made it clear that he would not accept a Knighthood so one was never offered. You could imagine it now with Hiddleston for example " if we were to offer x how would it be received?" ...or indeed DC...