All very contradictory - DC said a while ago he had a contract for another (maybe it was just optional) as Wilson said at SPECTRE premier that they no longer had a contract
All very contradictory - DC said a while ago he had a contract for another (maybe it was just optional) as Wilson said at SPECTRE premier that they no longer had a contract
Someone here in the know (sorry, I can't remember who) said that MGW was playing games when he said Craig no longer had a contract.
All very contradictory - DC said a while ago he had a contract for another (maybe it was just optional) as Wilson said at SPECTRE premier that they no longer had a contract
Someone here in the know (sorry, I can't remember who) said that MGW was playing games when he said Craig no longer had a contract.
Yes, exactly.
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I've checked Wikipedia: Craig's announcement was 14 October 2005 and shooting started 30th Jan 2006 with a movie premiere november 2006.
But the previous film was in 2002, plenty of time to sort out a story and script. They didn't have a Bond 25 script in a drawer when SPECTRE hit theaters.
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I've checked Wikipedia: Craig's announcement was 14 October 2005 and shooting started 30th Jan 2006 with a movie premiere november 2006.
But the previous film was in 2002, plenty of time to sort out a story and script. They didn't have a Bond 25 script in a drawer when SPECTRE hit theaters.
I thought I'd heard a while back that a script was in development? A franchise like Bond should always have creative wheels turning, anticipating what comes next. I'm sure they've always got something brewing... hopefully this time in someone else's kitchen :v But alas, it's probably Purvis & Wade.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I've checked Wikipedia: Craig's announcement was 14 October 2005 and shooting started 30th Jan 2006 with a movie premiere november 2006.
But the previous film was in 2002, plenty of time to sort out a story and script. They didn't have a Bond 25 script in a drawer when SPECTRE hit theaters.
I thought I'd heard a while back that a script was in development? A franchise like Bond should always have creative wheels turning, anticipating what comes next.
That's definitely not the feeling I got watching SPECTRE )
So much shabby retconning that was obviously NOT the plan, obvious from even the previous film.
Gregg Wilson said in, maybe, December that they were "discussing ideas."
When EON makes an official announcement I'll believe it. EON has a history of hedging their bets when it comes to casting a new Bond or continuing with an old one. Some of it can be a negotiating tool and some of it could be covering their butts if the current Bond is moving on. Who knows? Hiddelston could be the man or just EON's best back-up plan for moving forward or not really in the mix at all. Allegedly "in the know " sources pass bad infomation all the time. It wouldn't surprise me if EON was even behind some of this information. Time will tell. With regard to how soon Bond 25 hits theaters, IMO it will not be any sooner than fall 2018 no matter if there is a new Bond or Craig comes back. If there is a new Bond I think EON may want to put some distance between the new Bond and Craig (plus all the usual logistical stuff).
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But the previous film was in 2002, plenty of time to sort out a story and script. They didn't have a Bond 25 script in a drawer when SPECTRE hit theaters.
I thought I'd heard a while back that a script was in development? A franchise like Bond should always have creative wheels turning, anticipating what comes next.
That's definitely not the feeling I got watching SPECTRE )
So much shabby retconning that was obviously NOT the plan, obvious from even the previous film.
Gregg Wilson said in, maybe, December that they were "discussing ideas."
Remember: I said a franchise should The retconning thing likely happened as a writer's roundtable brainstorm, and someone with the power to make decisions thought it brilliant
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Purvis and Wade have worked hard for EON, but the script for Spectre was its weakest element. I am still very much hoping Craig returns. My second choice would be Turner, but I could accept Hiddleston, who is a terrific actor. (He also has my coloring so I could keep wearing Bond clothes ) ) But no matter what happens I hope Babs finds another screenwriter for the follow-up. Nor would I mind Lindy returning.
Not 100% sure he'll be the type, but again, I had the same doubts about DC at the time and was I glad to find out they were unfounded. Hope for it to happen again. As most of ajb'ers, wouldn't have been my first choice and would have liked DC to make one more, and hopefully with a better script and more suited director. Oh well.
Not for me either. In fact, if it isn't Mr Fassbender, get an unknown. No one else suggested/rumoured/mentioned has cut it for me.
In my estimation, Fassbender is the perfect next Bond. IMO, he checks off all the boxes. For the folks who want Fleming's literary Bond, except for being a bit shorter he may be closer than any of the previous Bonds. He's handsome but no pretty boy, has a lean, wiry but well muscled build, dark hair and cold blue eyes. He can be very charming one moment and incredibly cruel, cold, and deadly the next. He's proven to do well in fight scenes and action (he was very convincing as a gunfighter in the offbeat western "Slow West") and is just a fine actor in general. Unfortunately I believe the chances of him being Bond are pretty slim. Not because of money or he is too well known an actor but because Fassbender is doing the lead in "Assassins Creed" which appears to be the first in a series of films that would make it pretty much impossible for him to be Bond, unless the film bombs (which is always a possibility) but I doubt that EON and their partners would be willing to wait that out even if Fassbender is interested.
Henry Cavill, who EON liked very much has interest but is (at least from what I have read) under contract for at least one more film as Superman (I would assume it will be the "Justice League" film which is scheduled for a Nov 2017 release), which would push Bond 25 to a 2019 release. Cavill would need some time to get rid of his Superman bulk also. I wouldn't be surprised if Cavill would like to move on from Superman if Bond was available to him. He may see Bond as a better, more lucrative long term opportunity.
As for the rest, I'm at a bit of a loss at this time. Hiddelston would be ok; Turner I just don't know enough. The cadre of dashing model types who look great in a tux on a poster are generally just that, empty cardboard cut outs who fail miserably when they have to move or open their mouths.
Fassbender is over 6'. Fleming described Bond as being 6' tall.
This might not be very popular, but I'd like to EON sell out to one of the major studios. The Broccoli/Wilson family show has a distinct amateur-hour feel to it. They only do Bond (yeah, I believe BB's other project when I see it) and it still takes them three years to get a movie together. And even then the script leaves a lot to be desired.
I thought after CR, we'd see a series of great/near great Bond films. Instead, it's looking more and more like a one off, a happy accident.
I don't think Broccoli and Wilson trust their own instincts and they may be right not to. The end result is slow decision making.
The franchise is probably at its maximum value right now. The Fleming copyrights run out in most of the world in 2034 and then everybody and his brother will be making James Bond films. EON doesn't have much time left.
If they're not going to sell out, they should just hire Christopher Nolan to make one with a big name star and turn everything over to Nolan with his brother writing the script. You'll get at least a pretty good movie and with that combination (Bond + Nolan + big name star), it should easily gross $1 billion.
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This is the first time I've heard that Eon's rights had an expiration date! ?:) It's always been my understanding that copyrights can be renewed, and in Fleming's case I believe they will, as long the estate has survivors with power of attorney. No doubt there are legal specialists around here who might be able to provide clarification?
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I have loved DC as Bond and enjoyed all his films, but when he is replaced one thing I've wondered. Does the next Bond continue the re-boot, or do we go back to the old history Fleming history? I think with the new Q, Moneypenny and M they continue the re-boot, although I wish they would go back to the original history. Mainly because I loved OHMSS and how Tracy's death affected Bond it's such a huge part of his character . I also greatly prefer the original Blofeld history and not this brother nonsense.
I think a 2 year gap between films in OK, I would hate to bond turn into a franchise sausage factory like so many others. A decent story and script must now be an absolute must. And as I've previously said I think DC is waiting to see such a script or at least the outline before committing. I don't think CR was a happy accident I just think they got the right ingredients, after qos I think Eon have just bowed to popular opinion. I would like to think any new actor coming in would also want to see a script and story before signing up. As much as I enjoy Sf and really like SP I can't help feeling the reboot stalled with Mendes. Martin Campbell, David Arnold, a decent espionage story and my friends I will be a happy man. -{
I have loved DC as Bond and enjoyed all his films, but when he is replaced one thing I've wondered. Does the next Bond continue the re-boot, or do we go back to the old history Fleming history? I think with the new Q, Moneypenny and M they continue the re-boot, although I wish they would go back to the original history. Mainly because I loved OHMSS and how Tracy's death affected Bond it's such a huge part of his character . I also greatly prefer the original Blofeld history and not this brother nonsense.
I also don't think the whole brother thing is a good move, it simply hasn't got legs for more than a couple of films and is a waste of the Blofeld character.
This is the first time I've heard that Eon's rights had an expiration date! ?:) It's always been my understanding that copyrights can be renewed, and in Fleming's case I believe they will, as long the estate has survivors with power of attorney. No doubt there are legal specialists around here who might be able to provide clarification?
Well, I am a lawyer and I do practice intellectual property.
There is a definite copyright period in all countries. Most countries it's the life of the author plus 70 years. In the US it's life plus 70 years but creation + 95 years for individual works, which effectively makes it 95 years after the death of the author.
EON derives its rights from Ian Fleming's rights (now the Fleming Estate's rights). It has nothing greater than Fleming could convey.
James Bond is already in the public domain in Canada (life plus 50 years). There has been some talk about making a version of FYEO.
Maybe the copyright periods will be lengthened by law before 2034 but I see no groundswell of support for that. The last law (the Mickey Mouse Act) was publicly ridiculed as a payoff for big business.
If a non-EON Bond film is made in 2035, the only problem will be that it can't be distributed or shown in the US. But since the US is becoming a smaller and smaller part of the world market for action-adventure films, I don't think this will be a big deal.
EON will also claim that it has trademarked "James Bond" and trademarks don't run out, but I don't see the courts, even in the US, upholding EON's claimed mark.
I hope they don't reboot - I think they would get away with simply continuing and just ignoring the "brother" thing completely
Bring back Arnold and ditch Mendes (though sounds like he is done anyhow)
I've said before they could just continue with a different actor, I'm not sure we could forget the whole brother thing tho? Do we all just agree to never mention it again?
Just wondering how the Madeleine Swann string continues if here is a new actor? ?:)
If we don't get a needless reboot I think swann just continues her role with the new actor, after all another actress could quite as easily play swann as an actor can bond.
I'm not sure the character can survive though as Bond needs to be unattached IMHO
If they had just left it at Bond figuring out who he was and left it at that then things would not have been too bad - however if I remember rightly Blofeld brings it up at the torture scene and old MI6 building? I think no need to say anymore on it and what can they poss add? Was not like it was his real brother
Im guessing in typical Bond fashion Swann will just be ignored / forgotten about like many of his other birds which i don't have a problem with and is the norm as far as I am concerned
If they had just left it at Bond figuring out who he was and left it at that then things would not have been too bad - however if I remember rightly Blofeld brings it up at the torture scene and old MI6 building? I think no need to say anymore on it and what can they poss add? Was not like it was his real brother
Im guessing in typical Bond fashion Swann will just be ignored / forgotten about like many of his other birds which i don't have a problem with and is the norm as far as I am concerned
I always kind of assume the women get forgotten, I don't think many would care if Madeline is just forgotten
It was either that.....or the priesthood
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This is the first time I've heard that Eon's rights had an expiration date! ?:) It's always been my understanding that copyrights can be renewed, and in Fleming's case I believe they will, as long the estate has survivors with power of attorney. No doubt there are legal specialists around here who might be able to provide clarification?
Well, I am a lawyer and I do practice intellectual property.
There is a definite copyright period in all countries. Most countries it's the life of the author plus 70 years. In the US it's life plus 70 years but creation + 95 years for individual works, which effectively makes it 95 years after the death of the author.
EON derives its rights from Ian Fleming's rights (now the Fleming Estate's rights). It has nothing greater than Fleming could convey.
James Bond is already in the public domain in Canada (life plus 50 years). There has been some talk about making a version of FYEO.
Maybe the copyright periods will be lengthened by law before 2034 but I see no groundswell of support for that. The last law (the Mickey Mouse Act) was publicly ridiculed as a payoff for big business.
If a non-EON Bond film is made in 2035, the only problem will be that it can't be distributed or shown in the US. But since the US is becoming a smaller and smaller part of the world market for action-adventure films, I don't think this will be a big deal.
EON will also claim that it has trademarked "James Bond" and trademarks don't run out, but I don't see the courts, even in the US, upholding EON's claimed mark.
Well, that's very interesting, thanks -{ It's very surprising that this isn't discussed more.
So I suppose 2034 is 'Doomsday,' per Cubby Broccoli's prediction on how long Eon's Bond would last!
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
EON could keep making Bond films. They would just have competition.
Which could help the quality :007)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
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EON could keep making Bond films. They would just have competition.
Which could help the quality :007)
I think you'd get a wide spectrum, just as with Sherlock Holmes. A lot would be crap, but some would be brilliant, probably better than anything EON has done.
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Someone here in the know (sorry, I can't remember who) said that MGW was playing games when he said Craig no longer had a contract.
Yes, exactly.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
But the previous film was in 2002, plenty of time to sort out a story and script. They didn't have a Bond 25 script in a drawer when SPECTRE hit theaters.
I thought I'd heard a while back that a script was in development? A franchise like Bond should always have creative wheels turning, anticipating what comes next. I'm sure they've always got something brewing... hopefully this time in someone else's kitchen :v But alas, it's probably Purvis & Wade.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
That's definitely not the feeling I got watching SPECTRE
So much shabby retconning that was obviously NOT the plan, obvious from even the previous film.
Gregg Wilson said in, maybe, December that they were "discussing ideas."
Remember: I said a franchise should
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
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Fassbender is over 6'. Fleming described Bond as being 6' tall.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1055413/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
I thought after CR, we'd see a series of great/near great Bond films. Instead, it's looking more and more like a one off, a happy accident.
I don't think Broccoli and Wilson trust their own instincts and they may be right not to. The end result is slow decision making.
The franchise is probably at its maximum value right now. The Fleming copyrights run out in most of the world in 2034 and then everybody and his brother will be making James Bond films. EON doesn't have much time left.
If they're not going to sell out, they should just hire Christopher Nolan to make one with a big name star and turn everything over to Nolan with his brother writing the script. You'll get at least a pretty good movie and with that combination (Bond + Nolan + big name star), it should easily gross $1 billion.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Amen.
Well, I am a lawyer and I do practice intellectual property.
There is a definite copyright period in all countries. Most countries it's the life of the author plus 70 years. In the US it's life plus 70 years but creation + 95 years for individual works, which effectively makes it 95 years after the death of the author.
EON derives its rights from Ian Fleming's rights (now the Fleming Estate's rights). It has nothing greater than Fleming could convey.
James Bond is already in the public domain in Canada (life plus 50 years). There has been some talk about making a version of FYEO.
Maybe the copyright periods will be lengthened by law before 2034 but I see no groundswell of support for that. The last law (the Mickey Mouse Act) was publicly ridiculed as a payoff for big business.
If a non-EON Bond film is made in 2035, the only problem will be that it can't be distributed or shown in the US. But since the US is becoming a smaller and smaller part of the world market for action-adventure films, I don't think this will be a big deal.
EON will also claim that it has trademarked "James Bond" and trademarks don't run out, but I don't see the courts, even in the US, upholding EON's claimed mark.
Bring back Arnold and ditch Mendes (though sounds like he is done anyhow)
100% agreed! {[]
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I'm not sure the character can survive though as Bond needs to be unattached IMHO
Im guessing in typical Bond fashion Swann will just be ignored / forgotten about like many of his other birds which i don't have a problem with and is the norm as far as I am concerned
Well, that's very interesting, thanks -{ It's very surprising that this isn't discussed more.
So I suppose 2034 is 'Doomsday,' per Cubby Broccoli's prediction on how long Eon's Bond would last!
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Which could help the quality :007)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I think you'd get a wide spectrum, just as with Sherlock Holmes. A lot would be crap, but some would be brilliant, probably better than anything EON has done.
Here's an interesting article on the James Bond copyright situation. http://copyright.nova.edu/james-bond-public-domain/
I though EON had trademarked "James Bond" and they used that mark against a company who had a Bond-type character in an ad, but apparently not.