I think the series is due for a reset--but something more along the lines of FYEO as opposed to Casino Royale. I think they can do it with or without Craig. Either way, I would start the film with Bond on a mission. No reason to take any great pains to explain why Bond is on that mission. No reason to involve SPECTRE in the plot. As FYEO shows us, it's possible to tell a grounded and human story without focusing on Bond personally. Keep things lean: 120 minutes. I really think audiences would be receptive to this. It would provide a nice contrast to the bloated mess that was Spectre. And it would allow them to concoct a story that could work with or without Daniel Craig since he appears to have still not given a final answer regarding his participation.
Mining uranium would only be the first step. You'd have to refine it (produce "yellowcake") then turn it into a gas and then use gas centrifuges to enrich the uranium by separating the U235 (really radioactive) from the U238 (sorta radioactive) and then comes the hard part--engineering the bomb.
Yes, but the "stealing an atomic bomb" plot has been done too many times. Think of all the action scenes and tense scenes that can be done out of the story, also involving the scientists. Perhaps Bond could assassinate a defecting British nuclear scientist etc. The cration of The atomic bomb could be the tread of the story.
In the "third reel" the villan places the "device" in the vulcano in the Canary Islands, threathening to trigger an explosion that would create a tsunami that would hit the coastlines of much of the Atlantic Osean.
- Bond in uniform
- A raid
- Bond (scuba) diving
- Plots that are about the mission and not Bond's personal life and/or past.
- The main location should be outside the UK, Turky, Italy or the Alps region.
- More locations we have never seen on screen before.
- Bond should ski and/or drive a snowmobile
- Bond should sleep around more, and more of the ladies should survive
- More stunning sets/interesting architecture
- Use the start of TMWTGG and the Garden of Death as source material
- More of the sofisticated side of Bond: food, wine etc.
- Bonds morning excersise routine
- A funny Bond girl (since it's not DC strongest side and would give her more character
- Bond girls that challenge Bond's world view: journalists, missionary, aid worker etc. Bond shouldn't change, but it would be interesting
I also want to see him enjoying fine food and wine.
Absolutely. When was the last time Bond identified the year something was bottled, or some other display of how much of a cultured bon vivant he is? I love that stuff.
I also want to see him enjoying fine food and wine.
Absolutely. When was the last time Bond identified the year something was bottled, or some other display of how much of a cultured bon vivant he is? I love that stuff.
Agreed. In a similar vein, I also miss Bond as a sportsman. Skiing, diving, golf, etc. This is a consistent part of the cinematic character as established in the 60s that has been jettisoned in favor of the hyper-intense workaholic Bond.
There has been a lot of complaints about how the recent films try to increase the tension and avoid the cliche bond plots by focusing on 007's personal life, and adding personal grief to the storyline to increase the tension.
But I, and I feel many other people agree with me, that this has become a bit old hat now, and can make the films awfully grim, and not gel with the lighter humorous touches to the movie.
So let's scrap this, with an idea that can both increase tension and serve the plot.
In the Pre-title sequence, a wonderful action sequence which they've suceeded so far with SF and SP, finishes with Bond being poisioned and the enemy escaping.
This may sound awfully convuled but I think this could be a brilliant idea for a film.
Bond is poisioned, and knows he is slowly dying, the symtoms arriving slowly. Bond tells Q to keep this fact a secret.
And M sends him on the mission to track down the enemy, unbeknown of Bond being poisioned and that he doesn't have left to live.
Now Bond has two goals,
1) Find the villain and foil his plot.
2) Not only find the villain and foil his plot, but find out if he has the anditote for his poison before he dies.
With this plot, we have the opportunity for a Bond who is running around, lying to his superiors about his health, desperate to complete the mission.
Just an idea. Would love to hear other's thoughts and additions to it. -{
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
I also want to see him enjoying fine food and wine.
Absolutely. When was the last time Bond identified the year something was bottled, or some other display of how much of a cultured bon vivant he is? I love that stuff.
Agreed. In a similar vein, I also miss Bond as a sportsman. Skiing, diving, golf, etc. This is a consistent part of the cinematic character as established in the 60s that has been jettisoned in favor of the hyper-intense workaholic Bond.
He's not exactly a workaholic since he's always quitting his job. But I also hate that he doesn't take any time out to slow down and enjoy anything. Craig's Bond is lacking some dimensions that the other Bonds have.
There has been a lot of complaints about how the recent films try to increase the tension and avoid the cliche bond plots by focusing on 007's personal life, and adding personal grief to the storyline to increase the tension.
But I, and I feel many other people agree with me, that this has become a bit old hat now, and can make the films awfully grim, and not gel with the lighter humorous touches to the movie.
So let's scrap this, with an idea that can both increase tension and serve the plot.
In the Pre-title sequence, a wonderful action sequence which they've suceeded so far with SF and SP, finishes with Bond being poisioned and the enemy escaping.
This may sound awfully convuled but I think this could be a brilliant idea for a film.
Bond is poisioned, and knows he is slowly dying, the symtoms arriving slowly. Bond tells Q to keep this fact a secret.
And M sends him on the mission to track down the enemy, unbeknown of Bond being poisioned and that he doesn't have left to live.
Now Bond has two goals,
1) Find the villain and foil his plot.
2) Not only find the villain and foil his plot, but find out if he has the anditote for his poison before he dies.
With this plot, we have the opportunity for a Bond who is running around, lying to his superiors about his health, desperate to complete the mission.
Just an idea. Would love to hear other's thoughts and additions to it. -{
I like the idea. Perhaps the people behind the poisoning promises Bond the antidote if he kills someone for him? Obviously someone he doesn't want to kill, such as the next Bond girl (a journalist?)
Absolutely. When was the last time Bond identified the year something was bottled, or some other display of how much of a cultured bon vivant he is? I love that stuff.
Agreed. In a similar vein, I also miss Bond as a sportsman. Skiing, diving, golf, etc. This is a consistent part of the cinematic character as established in the 60s that has been jettisoned in favor of the hyper-intense workaholic Bond.
He's not exactly a workaholic since he's always quitting his job. But I also hate that he doesn't take any time out to slow down and enjoy anything. Craig's Bond is lacking some dimensions that the other Bonds have.
I think his love of fine wine and food sets Bond apart from other action heroes and gives him character. I wish they would use the scene from CR (novel) where Bond explains why he is into gourmet food in a future film.
Absolutely. When was the last time Bond identified the year something was bottled, or some other display of how much of a cultured bon vivant he is? I love that stuff.
Agreed. In a similar vein, I also miss Bond as a sportsman. Skiing, diving, golf, etc. This is a consistent part of the cinematic character as established in the 60s that has been jettisoned in favor of the hyper-intense workaholic Bond.
He's not exactly a workaholic since he's always quitting his job. But I also hate that he doesn't take any time out to slow down and enjoy anything. Craig's Bond is lacking some dimensions that the other Bonds have.
Craig's Bond pretty much quits his job in every film )
To be fair, Ethan Hunt has a troubled work history too. He id disavowed, IMF gets shut down etc. in nearly all the movies. It's as if they need to show people they aren't happy as government employes
There has been a lot of complaints about how the recent films try to increase the tension and avoid the cliche bond plots by focusing on 007's personal life, and adding personal grief to the storyline to increase the tension.
But I, and I feel many other people agree with me, that this has become a bit old hat now, and can make the films awfully grim, and not gel with the lighter humorous touches to the movie.
So let's scrap this, with an idea that can both increase tension and serve the plot.
In the Pre-title sequence, a wonderful action sequence which they've suceeded so far with SF and SP, finishes with Bond being poisioned and the enemy escaping.
This may sound awfully convuled but I think this could be a brilliant idea for a film.
Bond is poisioned, and knows he is slowly dying, the symtoms arriving slowly. Bond tells Q to keep this fact a secret.
And M sends him on the mission to track down the enemy, unbeknown of Bond being poisioned and that he doesn't have left to live.
Now Bond has two goals,
1) Find the villain and foil his plot.
2) Not only find the villain and foil his plot, but find out if he has the anditote for his poison before he dies.
With this plot, we have the opportunity for a Bond who is running around, lying to his superiors about his health, desperate to complete the mission.
Just an idea. Would love to hear other's thoughts and additions to it. -{
I like the idea. Perhaps the people behind the poisoning promises Bond the antidote if he kills someone for him? Obviously someone he doesn't want to kill, such as the next Bond girl (a journalist?)
Yeah, absolutely, I love that idea. Bond is then forced into a moral decision. Would love to see him all prepped to kill this Bond girl, in order to save his own life, before backing out of it and chasing after the bad guys, believing that he will die.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
There has been a lot of complaints about how the recent films try to increase the tension and avoid the cliche bond plots by focusing on 007's personal life, and adding personal grief to the storyline to increase the tension.
But I, and I feel many other people agree with me, that this has become a bit old hat now, and can make the films awfully grim, and not gel with the lighter humorous touches to the movie.
So let's scrap this, with an idea that can both increase tension and serve the plot.
In the Pre-title sequence, a wonderful action sequence which they've suceeded so far with SF and SP, finishes with Bond being poisioned and the enemy escaping.
This may sound awfully convuled but I think this could be a brilliant idea for a film.
Bond is poisioned, and knows he is slowly dying, the symtoms arriving slowly. Bond tells Q to keep this fact a secret.
And M sends him on the mission to track down the enemy, unbeknown of Bond being poisioned and that he doesn't have left to live.
Now Bond has two goals,
1) Find the villain and foil his plot.
2) Not only find the villain and foil his plot, but find out if he has the anditote for his poison before he dies.
With this plot, we have the opportunity for a Bond who is running around, lying to his superiors about his health, desperate to complete the mission.
Just an idea. Would love to hear other's thoughts and additions to it. -{
I like the idea. Perhaps the people behind the poisoning promises Bond the antidote if he kills someone for him? Obviously someone he doesn't want to kill, such as the next Bond girl (a journalist?)
Yeah, absolutely, I love that idea. Bond is then forced into a moral decision. Would love to see him all prepped to kill this Bond girl, in order to save his own life, before backing out of it and chasing after the bad guys, believing that he will die.
She could be an investigating journalist, who gets hold of vital info about the villan and his plan. When Bond choses not to kill her, she becomes a valuable source and ally. Now they can start chasing the villan, stop his plan and get an antidote for Bond. But she's a journalist, and has a moral conflict herself. Should she og public about what she learns about the 00-branch. This plot could be a new type of story for Bond, and with an interesting Bond girl.
Didn't the UK only a few weeks ago fire a test ballistic missile that went off course and nearly blew up Florida.
That is actually very similar to the Moonraker novel plot.
This real event could easily be the PTS to Bond 25 or incorporated into the film somehow.
I don't understand the Bond writers, all they have to do, is be up to speed on World events, look in "Janes" for the latest weapons, and watch extreme sports.
Not hard that, and should be enough to give a creative spark, afterall they are supposed to be proffestional writers.
I have an idea about the leader of SPECTRE for the next film that I got from the books. In the books, the numbers that SPECTRE use changes. So instead of Blofeld being No 1, he is infact No 2. What about if the name of Ernst Stavro Blofeld is used like the numbers? So the leader is Blofeld but goes by another name instead of Blofeld, and someone else like the No 2 takes the Blofeld name. What if Franz Oberhauser has taken up the mantle of Blofeld and the real Blofeld is hiding in the shadows. Oberhauser was just using the position to get at Bond because he was just madly jealous of Bond. He doesn't have the same ambitions of world domination like the real Blofeld. The next film could have a brand new Blofeld show up (the real one this time). He could be played by someone like Kevin Spacey or Anthony Hopkins perhaps. This would be a great twist and make me excited for Bond 25.
I have an idea about the leader of SPECTRE for the next film that I got from the books. In the books, the numbers that SPECTRE use changes. So instead of Blofeld being No 1, he is infact No 2. What about if the name of Ernst Stavro Blofeld is used like the numbers? So the leader is Blofeld but goes by another name instead of Blofeld, and someone else like the No 2 takes the Blofeld name. What if Franz Oberhauser has taken up the mantle of Blofeld and the real Blofeld is hiding in the shadows. Oberhauser was just using the position to get at Bond because he was just madly jealous of Bond. He doesn't have the same ambitions of world domination like the real Blofeld. The next film could have a brand new Blofeld show up (the real one this time). He could be played by someone like Kevin Spacey or Anthony Hopkins perhaps. This would be a great twist and make me excited for Bond 25.
Except in Spectre oberhauser tells bond Blofeld is his new name taken from his mother's side of the family.
I have an idea about the leader of SPECTRE for the next film that I got from the books. In the books, the numbers that SPECTRE use changes. So instead of Blofeld being No 1, he is infact No 2. What about if the name of Ernst Stavro Blofeld is used like the numbers? So the leader is Blofeld but goes by another name instead of Blofeld, and someone else like the No 2 takes the Blofeld name. What if Franz Oberhauser has taken up the mantle of Blofeld and the real Blofeld is hiding in the shadows. Oberhauser was just using the position to get at Bond because he was just madly jealous of Bond. He doesn't have the same ambitions of world domination like the real Blofeld. The next film could have a brand new Blofeld show up (the real one this time). He could be played by someone like Kevin Spacey or Anthony Hopkins perhaps. This would be a great twist and make me excited for Bond 25.
Except in Spectre oberhauser tells bond Blofeld is his new name taken from his mother's side of the family.
Bond and Leiter are teamed up to investigate intelligence that "bad actors" inside the Kremlin colluded with hackers to influence the outcome of a foreign democratic election. Oh, wait.
They really butchered the Blofeld thing in Spectre. Such a shame. It should have been brilliant. Hopefully they can write themselves out it with a brilliant 25th entry -{
the Blofeld-as-code-name theory could certainly get them out of this embarrassing corner they've painted themselves into, it would certainly be worth a shot even if it is a bit convoluted and exposition-heavy ... they gotta do something to unexplain the foster brother gaffe
those Brocolli kids must know all longtime Bond fans are outraged as to how Blofeld could have been ruined so completely immediately after regaining the rights to the character, they can't live in a bubble
perhaps that's why they're taking so long to start the next film? either they're too embarrassed to continue, or they're struggling desperately to think of a way to undo the Dr Evil style plottwist
maybe they should bring back the VR simulator from Die Another Day: during the precredits sequence, Q interrupts Bond in midVR session just like Moneypenny in the earlier film, Bond says "oh Q, its you, thank God! I just had the weirdest VR experience, I actually believed Blofeld was my own foster brother, it all seemed so real, but now I'm back in the real real world and thankfully none of that ever happened!"
While the foster Brother idea was a bad idea, I don't think they have painted themselves into a corner. They can let Blofeld escape in Bond 25, or have SPECTRE try to blackmail him out of prison or use the power struggle within SPECTRE after he was jailed as a plot device etc. In either case they don't have to mention the foster brother thing again if they chose to.
I assume it's a joke when you complain about bad ideas, and your solution is to bring back the VR simulator - in the opinion of many one of the worst ideas in the series...
For my own happiness, I just take Blofelds claims as being behind everything and being bonds "foster brother" as him just plating mind games with bond.
While the foster Brother idea was a bad idea, I don't think they have painted themselves into a corner. They can let Blofeld escape in Bond 25, or have SPECTRE try to blackmail him out of prison or use the power struggle within SPECTRE after he was jailed as a plot device etc. In either case they don't have to mention the foster brother thing again if they chose to.
I assume it's a joke when you complain about bad ideas, and your solution is to bring back the VR simulator - in the opinion of many one of the worst ideas in the series...
I agree, even if Craig returns for 25 with SPECTRE ending with Blofeld going off to jail he (Blofeld) is easily out of sight out of mind and Bond can proceed on his next adventure with a new villain. Same thing with Madeleine, she can join a long list of Bond women forgotten in the next film or it can be referenced casually in 25 that Bond chose returning to MI6 over her. If there's a new Bond actor, then a soft reboot and Blofeld and SPECTRE could return in Bond 26 or 27.
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Better to just steal one.
I like the photos, though.
In the "third reel" the villan places the "device" in the vulcano in the Canary Islands, threathening to trigger an explosion that would create a tsunami that would hit the coastlines of much of the Atlantic Osean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1tmOTv_qMI
- Bond in uniform
- A raid
- Bond (scuba) diving
- Plots that are about the mission and not Bond's personal life and/or past.
- The main location should be outside the UK, Turky, Italy or the Alps region.
- More locations we have never seen on screen before.
- Bond should ski and/or drive a snowmobile
- Bond should sleep around more, and more of the ladies should survive
- More stunning sets/interesting architecture
- Use the start of TMWTGG and the Garden of Death as source material
- More of the sofisticated side of Bond: food, wine etc.
- Bonds morning excersise routine
- A funny Bond girl (since it's not DC strongest side and would give her more character
- Bond girls that challenge Bond's world view: journalists, missionary, aid worker etc. Bond shouldn't change, but it would be interesting
Bond: Pierce Brosnan Villain: Hugo Drax Girl: Pam Bouvier
Agreed. In a similar vein, I also miss Bond as a sportsman. Skiing, diving, golf, etc. This is a consistent part of the cinematic character as established in the 60s that has been jettisoned in favor of the hyper-intense workaholic Bond.
But I, and I feel many other people agree with me, that this has become a bit old hat now, and can make the films awfully grim, and not gel with the lighter humorous touches to the movie.
So let's scrap this, with an idea that can both increase tension and serve the plot.
In the Pre-title sequence, a wonderful action sequence which they've suceeded so far with SF and SP, finishes with Bond being poisioned and the enemy escaping.
This may sound awfully convuled but I think this could be a brilliant idea for a film.
Bond is poisioned, and knows he is slowly dying, the symtoms arriving slowly. Bond tells Q to keep this fact a secret.
And M sends him on the mission to track down the enemy, unbeknown of Bond being poisioned and that he doesn't have left to live.
Now Bond has two goals,
1) Find the villain and foil his plot.
2) Not only find the villain and foil his plot, but find out if he has the anditote for his poison before he dies.
With this plot, we have the opportunity for a Bond who is running around, lying to his superiors about his health, desperate to complete the mission.
Just an idea. Would love to hear other's thoughts and additions to it. -{
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
He's not exactly a workaholic since he's always quitting his job. But I also hate that he doesn't take any time out to slow down and enjoy anything. Craig's Bond is lacking some dimensions that the other Bonds have.
I like the idea. Perhaps the people behind the poisoning promises Bond the antidote if he kills someone for him? Obviously someone he doesn't want to kill, such as the next Bond girl (a journalist?)
I think his love of fine wine and food sets Bond apart from other action heroes and gives him character. I wish they would use the scene from CR (novel) where Bond explains why he is into gourmet food in a future film.
Yeah, absolutely, I love that idea. Bond is then forced into a moral decision. Would love to see him all prepped to kill this Bond girl, in order to save his own life, before backing out of it and chasing after the bad guys, believing that he will die.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
She could be an investigating journalist, who gets hold of vital info about the villan and his plan. When Bond choses not to kill her, she becomes a valuable source and ally. Now they can start chasing the villan, stop his plan and get an antidote for Bond. But she's a journalist, and has a moral conflict herself. Should she og public about what she learns about the 00-branch. This plot could be a new type of story for Bond, and with an interesting Bond girl.
That is actually very similar to the Moonraker novel plot.
This real event could easily be the PTS to Bond 25 or incorporated into the film somehow.
I don't understand the Bond writers, all they have to do, is be up to speed on World events, look in "Janes" for the latest weapons, and watch extreme sports.
Not hard that, and should be enough to give a creative spark, afterall they are supposed to be proffestional writers.
"Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fOyHERaWyE
"Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
Except in Spectre oberhauser tells bond Blofeld is his new name taken from his mother's side of the family.
Could he have been lying?
Lucas electrics no doubt
those Brocolli kids must know all longtime Bond fans are outraged as to how Blofeld could have been ruined so completely immediately after regaining the rights to the character, they can't live in a bubble
perhaps that's why they're taking so long to start the next film? either they're too embarrassed to continue, or they're struggling desperately to think of a way to undo the Dr Evil style plottwist
maybe they should bring back the VR simulator from Die Another Day: during the precredits sequence, Q interrupts Bond in midVR session just like Moneypenny in the earlier film, Bond says "oh Q, its you, thank God! I just had the weirdest VR experience, I actually believed Blofeld was my own foster brother, it all seemed so real, but now I'm back in the real real world and thankfully none of that ever happened!"
I assume it's a joke when you complain about bad ideas, and your solution is to bring back the VR simulator - in the opinion of many one of the worst ideas in the series...
But that's just it: there are plenty of ways to get out of it without VR simulators. There is no extreme crisis, so no extreme solution is needed.
I agree, even if Craig returns for 25 with SPECTRE ending with Blofeld going off to jail he (Blofeld) is easily out of sight out of mind and Bond can proceed on his next adventure with a new villain. Same thing with Madeleine, she can join a long list of Bond women forgotten in the next film or it can be referenced casually in 25 that Bond chose returning to MI6 over her. If there's a new Bond actor, then a soft reboot and Blofeld and SPECTRE could return in Bond 26 or 27.