- Like GE, open with an iconic stunt
- Also like GE, introduce Bond with a bit of humour.
- Have Bond drive a DB5. Make it the new trademark of Bond, like his line "Bknd, James Bond" and him ordering Martinis.
Also, I think this is essential when any new Bond starts; take time to make their first film perfect. Like GE or CR, take time with scripts, don't rush a film out.
Hire fewer French actresses (usually brunettes). There is nothing wrong with them, it's just that most Bond girls during Craig's tenure was in this group.
The same goes for the locations Italy, the Alps and Turkey.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
Hire fewer French actresses (usually brunettes). There is nothing wrong with them, it's just that most Bond girls during Craig's tenure was in this group.
The same goes for the locations Italy, the Alps and Turkey.
Agree with all of this, as well as a raid in the third act! B-) Time for Bond to return to Japan...
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
- A more pared-down modern espionage plot that actually challenges Bond in unpredictable and bold ways and puts him in seriously dangerous situations where he has to use his wits and combat skills to survive. No more exploding watches or ejector seats to get him out of trouble, we've seen enough of that during the franchise already.
- A stand-alone mission with the MI6 team staying put in London and Bond being out on the field alone.
- Stop using predictable personal angles as a lazy substitute for real character study. Instead make the character of Bond interesting and complex by focusing on his dialogue and interactions with the characters he meets during his mission.
- Truly innovative action scenes and breathtaking stunts. Throw in some brutal fist fights as well.
- A sense of vibrant and colourful immersion and detail with the locations Bond travels to.
- Leave out Spectre's experimentations with gags and puns and keep the humour dry and witty.
- If they decide to continue with Blofeld, I want to hear no mention of the Oberhauser family in relation to him ever again.
- No more retconning.
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I'm not opposed to a gadget or two...but I couldn't agree more about the MI6 staff (especially M!!) staying in London, for the love of God.
Bond #7 should be in the field in 25, more or less alone, until Jeffrey Wright's Leiter appears with something to move the narrative forward B-)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I'm not opposed to a gadget or two...but I couldn't agree more about the MI6 staff (especially M!!) staying in London, for the love of God.
Bond #7 should be in the field in 25, more or less alone, until Jeffrey Wright's Leiter appears with something to move the narrative forward B-)
No Helicopters or Planes, please no Helicopters or planes, enough already.
I agree with this -{ but I would like to see Bond on some sort of boat, I've always liked the idea of Bond taking time out on a boat and it's quite fitting with his naval past.
See, I am a simple bloke who can easily be made happy
We certainly agree on that! I missed the Italian suits.
No Italian suits! Tom Ford is closer to Bond's Mayfair-tailored roots than Brioni. Keep Tom Ford, boot Jany Temime!
We might have to disagree on that one. If you compare the fit of a Brioni vs Tom Ford, then if you take Ford as a representative of the British tradition, I will have to conclude that the Brits have lost it.
We certainly agree on that! I missed the Italian suits.
No Italian suits! Tom Ford is closer to Bond's Mayfair-tailored roots than Brioni. Keep Tom Ford, boot Jany Temime!
We might have to disagree on that one. If you compare the fit of a Brioni vs Tom Ford, then if you take Ford as a representative of the British tradition, I will have to conclude that the Brits have lost it.
I understand your point, but Tom Ford showed in QOS that he could do a decent job with the right costume designer. The QOS suits are only just a hair too tight. His shoulders are much better than the larger Brioni shoulders on Craig. Tom Ford isn't to blame for the shrunken suits in SF and SP, and that's not what he usually does. He didn't even design those suits, Jany Temime did. She's the problem. If you pair Lindy Hemming with Tom Ford, Bond would have proper suits. The Italians have messed up too, with suits too long and baggy in LTK and to a lesser extent in GE and TND, and aeroplane-wing lapels and wide flares in TSWLM and MR (though the fit was perfect there).
I agree with a lot of your posts especially operation bedlam and loellelholz
When screen testing the new Bond what do you think the Producers will be looking for?????
i can only find a few on You tube James Brolin and Sam Neil and thats a bit dated
1 Fight scene
2.Chatting the girl up and being smooth
3. Tux
4. Aston Martin DB 11
5. Torture scene
6. His Dark depressing side losing M
7. beach scene
No Italian suits! Tom Ford is closer to Bond's Mayfair-tailored roots than Brioni. Keep Tom Ford, boot Jany Temime!
We might have to disagree on that one. If you compare the fit of a Brioni vs Tom Ford, then if you take Ford as a representative of the British tradition, I will have to conclude that the Brits have lost it.
I understand your point, but Tom Ford showed in QOS that he could do a decent job with the right costume designer. The QOS suits are only just a hair too tight. His shoulders are much better than the larger Brioni shoulders on Craig. Tom Ford isn't to blame for the shrunken suits in SF and SP, and that's not what he usually does. He didn't even design those suits, Jany Temime did. She's the problem. If you pair Lindy Hemming with Tom Ford, Bond would have proper suits. The Italians have messed up too, with suits too long and baggy in LTK and to a lesser extent in GE and TND, and aeroplane-wing lapels and wide flares in TSWLM and MR (though the fit was perfect there).
Thanks! It makes more sense when you put it this way. I'm still no fan of Tom Ford though, regardless who actually designs a piece. After all it was Tom Ford whose label was stuck on those suits, not Jany Temime's.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
edited May 2016
Not being much of a clothes horse myself, I can honestly say that I'm easy to please in this regard. I thought Craig always looked well turned-out, even as others said his suits were too tight, or what have you. I can see where being Cinematic Bond's tailor would be a plum gig for any suit-maker.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I would like a Bond who can pull off seduction; I don't buy Craig as a womaniser. Rather than having lots of personal history, I'd like there to be more enigma, both in the character and in the film. Also, a simple plot and not just a collection of set pieces (having a great set piece is good but it needs to be integrated into the story).
What scene do they use for screen testing nowadays?
I think they are tested on a fight scene and a dramatic scene.
Do they still use the scene from FRWL?
I heared of a Bond girl being tested using the train scene from CR ( was it Olga Korylenko?).
Most of what has been said before (solid script, actual espionage, M staying in London, more of Bond's personal life) and aside from that:
- Interesting allies / side characters outside of Mi6, preferably foreign (*cough* Felix Leiter)
- Less time in London (I love the city but he's been there too much recently) in favor of another interesting city (Rome and Istanbul have looked beautiful but I want Bond to "interact" with the city, i.e. find his way around it by himself, like a spy might need to do (think Bourne in Berlin, Moscow etc.), perhaps helped by his connections (see above)
- Bond showing off his foreign language skills at least briefly
- brighter moments and locations again (I know Morroco and Turkey get sunshine but subjectively it feels like Bond didn't have a day at the beach for 10 years)
- a "happy" ending - doesn't have to be sexy time on a life raft or anything but the fact that people were relieved that Bond at least "got" the girl in SP, although we all know that his departure from the service won't last and she will likely die, shows how much we have been accustomed to Bond movies being almost depressive in nature
- and this is the most important of them all: BRING BACK DAVID ARNOLD!!!
"I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
"- That is something to be afraid of."
*No more car chases, period.
*More Esss. Sex, Scotch, smoke, and sin. No PC crap.
*Make Bond less depressed - Make people want to be Bond again. You have expensive cars and clothes. You should be able to get
laid more and enjoy it!
*No more Q.
*Make M an authority, not old and weak, but strong and credible. No more scenes with M, Q, and Tanner climbing into the mystery machine.
*More exotic locations, Hong Kong or Staglieno Cemetery.
*Soundtrack with leitmotifs
"And if I told you that I'm from the Ministry of Defence?" James Bond - The Property of a Lady
I gotta disagree with the above... Ralph Fiennes is perfect as M .. "old and weak" ?!?! He was nowhere close to weak.. Did you forget the courtroom shoot out ? Q is a quintessential Bond character... And the new Q is perfect.. The sex and scotch thing I am on board with.. but car chases, yes.. The QOS chase was outstanding.. wasn't too impressed with SPECTRE's chase.. but the car chase allows for another essential 007 element, the gadget laden car... car chases, M, Q, money penny.. those are foundation pieces of the 007 story line... cut those out.. no longer a Bond film really..
I do agree with the return of Leiter.. Jeffrey Wright was an excellent casting choice.. love to see him back in the mix..
Locations... Eastern Europe.. Middle East..
And having gotten my degree in foreign language... yes on the Bond throwing out his ability to be multilingual..
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
As much as I love Aston Martin, it might be time to do a film without one, except perhaps as an incidental cameo...if there must be a car chase in #25, I wouldn't mind seeing Bond commandeer an unlikely vehicle, as in FYEO, and of course beat the s**t out of it B-)
ADDENDUM: Let's see Bond #7 in his Navy uniform!
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Personally, while I appreciated that the Craig films were connected via Quantum/SPECTRE I'd like to see a return to stand-alone missions.
I'd also like to see a mixture of Bond enjoying the finer things in life while still being the bad ass Craig portrayed him as. Yes, I know the other Bonds could more than hold their own in a fight but I liked the rough and tumbleness Craig's version exhibited (if that makes sense).
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To do for EON Bond actor #7? Put him on an SAS crash course, nothing intense but enough to familiarize him with their stuff. Take up chain smoking and binge drinking, but balance that out with a strenuous work out regimen. Tutor him in an immersion course through Saville Row, a few gentlemen's clubs with Etonian alumni, Whitehall bureaucrats and high stake gamblers. Make him read a lot of books, including the whole Fleming Bond library (audio books are fine) and Fleming's non-Bond books like Thrilling Cities. Throw in a book on politically-incorrect humor and he should be all set.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
To do for EON Bond actor #7? Put him on an SAS crash course, nothing intense but enough to familiarize him with their stuff. Take up chain smoking and binge drinking, but balance that out with a strenuous work out regimen. Tutor him in an immersion course through Saville Row, a few gentlemen's clubs with Etonian alumni, Whitehall bureaucrats and high stake gamblers. Make him read a lot of books, including the whole Fleming Bond library (audio books are fine) and Fleming's non-Bond books like Thrilling Cities. Throw in a book on politically-incorrect humor and he should be all set.
Sounds perfect {[] But I won't hold my breath
Check out my Amazon author page!Mark Loeffelholz
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
To do for EON Bond actor #7? Put him on an SAS crash course, nothing intense but enough to familiarize him with their stuff. Take up chain smoking and binge drinking, but balance that out with a strenuous work out regimen. Tutor him in an immersion course through Saville Row, a few gentlemen's clubs with Etonian alumni, Whitehall bureaucrats and high stake gamblers. Make him read a lot of books, including the whole Fleming Bond library (audio books are fine) and Fleming's non-Bond books like Thrilling Cities. Throw in a book on politically-incorrect humor and he should be all set.
Comments
Wouldn't that be great!
- Like GE, open with an iconic stunt
- Also like GE, introduce Bond with a bit of humour.
- Have Bond drive a DB5. Make it the new trademark of Bond, like his line "Bknd, James Bond" and him ordering Martinis.
Also, I think this is essential when any new Bond starts; take time to make their first film perfect. Like GE or CR, take time with scripts, don't rush a film out.
The same goes for the locations Italy, the Alps and Turkey.
Agree with all of this, as well as a raid in the third act! B-) Time for Bond to return to Japan...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
- A coherent and solid script, for once.
- A more pared-down modern espionage plot that actually challenges Bond in unpredictable and bold ways and puts him in seriously dangerous situations where he has to use his wits and combat skills to survive. No more exploding watches or ejector seats to get him out of trouble, we've seen enough of that during the franchise already.
- A stand-alone mission with the MI6 team staying put in London and Bond being out on the field alone.
- Stop using predictable personal angles as a lazy substitute for real character study. Instead make the character of Bond interesting and complex by focusing on his dialogue and interactions with the characters he meets during his mission.
- Truly innovative action scenes and breathtaking stunts. Throw in some brutal fist fights as well.
- A sense of vibrant and colourful immersion and detail with the locations Bond travels to.
- Leave out Spectre's experimentations with gags and puns and keep the humour dry and witty.
- If they decide to continue with Blofeld, I want to hear no mention of the Oberhauser family in relation to him ever again.
- No more retconning.
Bond #7 should be in the field in 25, more or less alone, until Jeffrey Wright's Leiter appears with something to move the narrative forward B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
No Helicopters or Planes, please no Helicopters or planes, enough already.
Are lasers ok? It would sure please chrisisall! ("Everything's better with lasers!" )
http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/45194/bonds-rated-by-laser/
Lasers are cool, I would love me some Lasers... B-)
We might have to disagree on that one. If you compare the fit of a Brioni vs Tom Ford, then if you take Ford as a representative of the British tradition, I will have to conclude that the Brits have lost it.
I understand your point, but Tom Ford showed in QOS that he could do a decent job with the right costume designer. The QOS suits are only just a hair too tight. His shoulders are much better than the larger Brioni shoulders on Craig. Tom Ford isn't to blame for the shrunken suits in SF and SP, and that's not what he usually does. He didn't even design those suits, Jany Temime did. She's the problem. If you pair Lindy Hemming with Tom Ford, Bond would have proper suits. The Italians have messed up too, with suits too long and baggy in LTK and to a lesser extent in GE and TND, and aeroplane-wing lapels and wide flares in TSWLM and MR (though the fit was perfect there).
When screen testing the new Bond what do you think the Producers will be looking for?????
i can only find a few on You tube James Brolin and Sam Neil and thats a bit dated
1 Fight scene
2.Chatting the girl up and being smooth
3. Tux
4. Aston Martin DB 11
5. Torture scene
6. His Dark depressing side losing M
7. beach scene
Thanks! It makes more sense when you put it this way. I'm still no fan of Tom Ford though, regardless who actually designs a piece. After all it was Tom Ford whose label was stuck on those suits, not Jany Temime's.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I think they are tested on a fight scene and a dramatic scene.
Do they still use the scene from FRWL?
I heared of a Bond girl being tested using the train scene from CR ( was it Olga Korylenko?).
- Interesting allies / side characters outside of Mi6, preferably foreign (*cough* Felix Leiter)
- Less time in London (I love the city but he's been there too much recently) in favor of another interesting city (Rome and Istanbul have looked beautiful but I want Bond to "interact" with the city, i.e. find his way around it by himself, like a spy might need to do (think Bourne in Berlin, Moscow etc.), perhaps helped by his connections (see above)
- Bond showing off his foreign language skills at least briefly
- brighter moments and locations again (I know Morroco and Turkey get sunshine but subjectively it feels like Bond didn't have a day at the beach for 10 years)
- a "happy" ending - doesn't have to be sexy time on a life raft or anything but the fact that people were relieved that Bond at least "got" the girl in SP, although we all know that his departure from the service won't last and she will likely die, shows how much we have been accustomed to Bond movies being almost depressive in nature
- and this is the most important of them all: BRING BACK DAVID ARNOLD!!!
"- That is something to be afraid of."
*No more car chases, period.
*More Esss. Sex, Scotch, smoke, and sin. No PC crap.
*Make Bond less depressed - Make people want to be Bond again. You have expensive cars and clothes. You should be able to get
laid more and enjoy it!
*No more Q.
*Make M an authority, not old and weak, but strong and credible. No more scenes with M, Q, and Tanner climbing into the mystery machine.
*More exotic locations, Hong Kong or Staglieno Cemetery.
*Soundtrack with leitmotifs
I do agree with the return of Leiter.. Jeffrey Wright was an excellent casting choice.. love to see him back in the mix..
Locations... Eastern Europe.. Middle East..
And having gotten my degree in foreign language... yes on the Bond throwing out his ability to be multilingual..
ADDENDUM: Let's see Bond #7 in his Navy uniform!
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I'd also like to see a mixture of Bond enjoying the finer things in life while still being the bad ass Craig portrayed him as. Yes, I know the other Bonds could more than hold their own in a fight but I liked the rough and tumbleness Craig's version exhibited (if that makes sense).
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
Sounds perfect {[] But I won't hold my breath
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
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