Are you looking forward to Fleming's stories in the public domain?

Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
There has been some talk about how Ian Fleming's Bond stories will be in the public domain in less than 20 years. Do you look forward to that day or do you dread it? The good part of it is that it's more likely in that time we will see the proper adaptations of Fleming stories on film or television that we've never seen before. Someone with more creativity than EoN can have a chance at making a better Bond film. Perhaps it will be someone from here!

On the downside, the market could become oversaturated with Bond, there could be some Bond films that turn out worse than Die Another Day, or EoN may give up on Bond seeing that Bond might not be as special. Perhaps some of these are overreactions, but who knows what can happen. What do you think will happen?
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  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Well, most Bond film are already worse than Die Another Day, so it appears that we have nothing to worry about! :))
  • ThunderRakerThunderRaker Posts: 40MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Well, most Bond film are already worse than Die Another Day, so it appears that we have nothing to worry about! :))

    You do realize where you're saying that? This is ajb, you could get crucified for saying that! :o
    1. TLD 2. CR 3. OP 4. OHMSS 5. FYEO 6. AVTAK 7. TSWLM 8. GF 9. FRWL 10. SF 11. LTK 12. TB 13. QOS 14. YOLT 15. LALD 16. DN 17. TWINE 18. GE 19. TND 20. MR 21. TMWTGG 22. SP 23. DAF 24. NSNA 25. DAD
    1. Roger 2. Timmy 3. Connery 4. Craig 5. George 6. Pierce
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    I know, but once in your life you have to stand for something! :))

    I also noticed that the hate-wave seems to be moving, and it's SPECTRE that is being criticised the most recently. I expect DAD to go the way of OHMSS and from one of the most underrated to become one of the most appreciated movies.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I just don't think a bond film without the theme and gunbarrel and logo etc would feel right. A television series might be OK, I did really enjoy Fleming and that could easily have been bonds early life.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    What do you think will happen?

    Wait…aren't you the guy who couldn't care less about Fleming?

    ;)
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I just don't think a bond film without the theme and gunbarrel and logo etc would feel right. A television series might be OK, I did really enjoy Fleming and that could easily have been bonds early life.

    Have you watched Casino Royale? :)) it practically did not have the gunbarrel... and NSNA had no gunbarrel or logo at all, and by now we treat it as a semi-official Bond movie. A different logo and opening sequence will only take someone creative to replace.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Nsna just doesn't feel right to me, casino royal had certain elements which were familier to the franchise, my point being that after 24 films and over half a century the films have a certain feel about them, I'm not sure that a Disney produced bond film would feel genuine.
    Of course competition could force Eon to sharpen their pencils and deliver better stories in their films, and id love to see the garden of death on film.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    I agree about NSNA, but that is because the movie was made on the margins of the franchise. Just imagine that its producers had been allowed to make more Bond movies - I'm sure they would have worked out alternative elements.

    Casino Royale and Dr No are very different movies that share very little. We connect them because of the shared tradition and other movies between them, not because they are about the same character.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Jag wrote:
    I know, but once in your life you have to stand for something! :))

    I also noticed that the hate-wave seems to be moving, and it's SPECTRE that is being criticised the most recently. I expect DAD to go the way of OHMSS and from one of the most underrated to become one of the most appreciated movies.

    SPECTRE is getting most of the criticism recently because it's the most recent film...DAD will never get the love that OHMSS has...there is just too much wrong with it...
    YNWA 97
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    Yes, I'm looking forward to it...I can finally make the short film adaptation of From a View to a Kill that I've dreamed of doing for ages!
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    I must be one of the only members on here who actually loves DAD, ok invisible car a bit silly but people tend to forget that it was ment to be camouflaged by mirrors not by a Harry Potter invisible cape or some other suchmagic and as to the cgi surfing well IMO that's no worse than the cgi train crashing through the underground in SF or the helicopter scene in SP or the airplane dogfight in QOS.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I don't think the train in Sf was cgi, or the dogfight in qos?? However the obvious stunt double on the crane in CR was a touch shoddy!
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Not the rooftop fight train, the one that crashes through the ceiling in the underground, that was cgi and I do believe most of the dogfight was cgi -{
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The underground tube train was a full size effect. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    That's the one I meant, also on the qos dvd extras there is quite a section on filming the dogfight scenes and how they struggled to source bonds plane
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, I love those " Behind the scenes" documentaries. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Really! I stand corrected, never have watched any of the extras on any of the films, but they certainly look cgi well to me anyway but as said I stand corrected ;%
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    The one shot in the dogfight that definitely looked to be CGI is the one where Bond climbed vertical and stalled the DC3. Besides that I think the rest of the sequence looks like it was shot for real.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agreed, the stalling plane, looks Terrible ! :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    superdaddy wrote:
    I must be one of the only members on here who actually loves DAD

    Well, I don't love it but I do think it is often unfairly maligned. Sure, it has plenty flaws (which Bond film doesn't?) but there's lots of good stuff there too.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I too enjoy DAD, I look upon it as an updated Moonraker. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    What do you think will happen?

    Wait…aren't you the guy who couldn't care less about Fleming?

    ;)

    Where did you get that idea? I have much appreciation for Fleming. I just believe there is much to the Bond films that has value beyond what is taken from Fleming's source material.
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 7,211MI6 Agent
    Doesn't James Bond belong to EON? I think Tarzan belongs to the Edgar Rice Burroughs Foundation and they control all aspects of publishing, film rights etc. and those books are way past the public domain threshold.
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Doesn't James Bond belong to EON? I think Tarzan belongs to the Edgar Rice Burroughs Foundation and they control all aspects of publishing, film rights etc. and those books are way past the public domain threshold.

    Edgar Rice Burroughs died in 1950, so there's a few more years until they're all in the public domain.
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 7,211MI6 Agent
    My error then, I thought it was from the date of publication.
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Although, are you restricted to only using the old out of copyright stories, or
    can you come up with all new adventures. Such as Bond fighting vampire
    zombies from beyond space ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Although, are you restricted to only using the old out of copyright stories, or
    can you come up with all new adventures. Such as Bond fighting vampire
    zombies from beyond space ?

    I think that when character of Bond is in the public domain, anything that EoN hasn't done to change Bond from Fleming should be fair game. But I heard that two Bond films from now will feature Bond fighting vampire zombies, so that will not be allowed.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Damn that screws my Never ,never say never again. :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Jag wrote:
    I know, but once in your life you have to stand for something! :))

    I also noticed that the hate-wave seems to be moving, and it's SPECTRE that is being criticised the most recently. I expect DAD to go the way of OHMSS and from one of the most underrated to become one of the most appreciated movies.

    SPECTRE is getting most of the criticism recently because it's the most recent film...DAD will never get the love that OHMSS has...there is just too much wrong with it...


    DAD has probably the coolest 007 car ever, equal to the DB5 and submarine Lotus, so that alone stands for something. And most recent films usually get the most praise. DAD did at the time (and was also the most commercially successful 007 movie when it was released), and more recently Skyfall got almost universal praise too. The reason SPECTRE is being criticised has nothing to do with Craig (it was his most convincing Bond portrayal) or with being recent, but everything to do with a badly written plot and with ripping off Austin Powers... So yes, DAD is not perfect, and a few things could have been done better, but the same can be said about almost any Bond movie.
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