The title - ideas and rumours

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  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    edited December 2018
    Number24 wrote:
    How early did we get rumours of the right title for the other Craig Bond films?

    QoS was known 2-3 weeks after filming started

    The first time we heard Skyfall was on 10/6/11 (2 months before filming) due to Sony registering the domain name
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Thanks. So not for some time?
  • Arbogast 777Arbogast 777 Minneapolis Posts: 595MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Thanks. So not for some time?

    You can’t really assume anything because how it played out before doesn’t necessarily tell you how they’ll do it this time. If I had to bet we’ll get it at a press conference in early March, but all it takes it something like a domain registration leak and you’ll have it. But then also look at The Avengers who just had the title reveal with it’s first teaser...
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I have the feeling they will be extra secretive this time because of the leaks last time.
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    For Queen And Country?
    I always liked the sound of that one.
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  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    They could go for one of the rejected John Gardner titles and call it OH, NO MR BOND!!. Somewhere I read that was a title the publisher tried to convince Gardner on before NO DEALS MR BOND became the final title.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 4,109MI6 Agent
    For Queen And Country
    especially cuz of the context in which that line is spoken in Thunderball!
    Craig has not yet done enough "for Queen and Country" in his four films, it's time for him to make some real costly sacrifices like the oldBonds used to do at least three times per mission.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff
    it's time for him to make some real costly sacrifices like the old Bonds used to do at least three times per mission.

    On a mission, Bond is expected to sacrifice himself... :007)
  • AndBAndB Posts: 11MI6 Agent
    Considering the use of the Hildebrand name in a scene with M in 'SPECTRE' my guess would be 'The Hildebrand Rarity' for B25..
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Nah... I think after the failure of trying to explain obscure Fleming titles, like Quantum of Solace, I doubt that the Hildebrand Rarity will be B25. I took the usage of it in Spectre as a nod to it, but also a recognition that it would never be used as a Bond Title. I think the only Fleming title left they could use is A property of a lady.
    Even Risico is a bit of a nothing word.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    AndB wrote:
    Considering the use of the Hildebrand name in a scene with M in 'SPECTRE' my guess would be 'The Hildebrand Rarity' for B25..

    I saw that as the opposite. They think it’s a bad film title so it should be used elsewhere.
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  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    Exactly. It's burned off now.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Nah... I think after the failure of trying to explain obscure Fleming titles, like Quantum of Solace, I doubt that the Hildebrand Rarity will be B25. I took the usage of it in Spectre as a nod to it, but also a recognition that it would never be used as a Bond Title. I think the only Fleming title left they could use is A property of a lady.
    Even Risico is a bit of a nothing word.

    Yes promoting a film where the title is so arcane as to need it's own exposition is unlikely to feature again.
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    AndB wrote:
    Considering the use of the Hildebrand name in a scene with M in 'SPECTRE' my guess would be 'The Hildebrand Rarity' for B25..

    I saw that as the opposite. They think it’s a bad film title so it should be used elsewhere.

    I think the three Fleming titles that have been thrown around on here for B25—Hildebrand Rarity, Property of a Lady and Garden of Death—would all be terrible titles for a modern Bond film. Nothing against the stories themselves, I just don’t think they’d have a strong impact, and would be fairly confusing, for viewers that aren’t massive Bond fans.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    My favourites are "Risico" and "A whisper of hate" :007)
  • AndBAndB Posts: 11MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    AndB wrote:
    Considering the use of the Hildebrand name in a scene with M in 'SPECTRE' my guess would be 'The Hildebrand Rarity' for B25..

    I saw that as the opposite. They think it’s a bad film title so it should be used elsewhere.

    A very valid point, but I'm not so sure. Using the name in 'SPECTRE' could just as well be a cue to be picked up in the plot of the new movie. Keep in mind also that a majority of 'SPECTRE' viewers were (and are) probably unaware of it being a reference to a Fleming title.
  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    I never liked the name Spectre as the title for Bond 24. It's annoying if you have to explain the difference between the organization and the film all the time. Besides Spectre is used (and will be used) in multiple films. It's not like this is the grand finale adventure. I don't even consider it canon... If I watch Craigs first three films I refuse to believe Oberhauser is all behind the plan. Licence Revoked would have been a good one, it does sounds like Licence To Kill but the general audience probably already forgot that one (sadly, I like it). Besides, we had 'Gold' in many titles. Licence Revoked would fit the story and doesn't ruin the Spectre name for me. As for Bond 25, I hope they go with a sentence and not just one stand-alone word. The Garden Of Death, A Whisper Of Hate or a made up one would be cool. They had three great Brosnan titles so we know they can deliver on titles.
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  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 284MI6 Agent
    edited December 2018
    I was watching a documentary about British Biological weapon testing on a small Island off the Scottish coast called Gruinard Island in 1942. They were testing Anthrax as a possible weapon to be used I assume in the Second World War if the need had arisen. As far as we know these weapons were never used in anger however this small Island was left contaminated with Anthrax spores.

    In 1981 the MOD tried to decontaminate the site this was called "Operation Dark Harvest". I believe the authorities have declared this island now safe to live on, and the original heirs have now purchased it back for £500 and in 1990 it was finally declared safe to live there.

    Maybe a title for Bond 26 and maybe a base story plot for a future Bond movie with a similar WW2 backstory just like the one in Golden Eye.
    FRWl, CR, OHMSS, TSWLM, SF, GF, TLD, LTK, TND, FYEO, OP,TWINE, GE, LALD, TB, SPECTRE, DN, YOLT, TMWTGG, QOS, MR, DAF, DAD, AVTAK, NTTD.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited January 2019
    I like the word "Shamelady", but I'm not sure it's best used as a movie title. I'm worried the general public will get it wrong and believe Bond wants women or one woman to be ashamed.
    Perhaps "Shamelady" should be a luxury yacht or the villain's lair?
  • sunflower888sunflower888 Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I like the word "Shamelady", but I'm not sure it's best used as a movie title. I'm worried the general public will get it wrong and believe Bond wants women or one woman to be ashamed.
    Perhaps "Shamelady" should be a luxury yacht or the villain's lair?

    Wont work as a lady. Alienates half the population globally! Usually its a strong word or strap line. :D
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I agree 100%
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited January 2019
    In a little more than a month we know the title, but so far there's been no rumours at all. If you were a betting man/woman/transgender, what title would you put money on? :D
    I'd say "Blofeld" or a Fleming chapter or short story title.
  • LicencetochatLicencetochat Posts: 74MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    In a little more than a month we know the title, but so far there's been no rumours at all. If you were a betting man/woman/transgender, what title would you put money on? :D
    I'd say "Blofeld" or a Fleming chapter or short story title.

    If i should guess, my bet is that the title is something nobody have guessed or expected. For instance, how many thought Spectre would be the title one year before the film came out?
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    In a little more than a month we know the title, but so far there's been no rumours at all. If you were a betting man/woman/transgender, what title would you put money on? :D
    I'd say "Blofeld" or a Fleming chapter or short story title.

    If i should guess, my bet is that the title is something nobody have guessed or expected. For instance, how many thought Spectre would be the title one year before the film came out?

    People don't usually expect a title as bad and as bland as "Spectre". At least the bad title suggestions on these boards are usually creative. If Bond 24 wasn't called "Spectre", it wouldn't have given away the Blofeld twist (even without the script leaks).
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Since the rumoured Norwegian location is Rjukan in Telemark, shouldn't the title be "Hero of Telemark"? :))
  • sunflower888sunflower888 Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Since the rumoured Norwegian location is Rjukan in Telemark, shouldn't the title be "Hero of Telemark"? :))

    Or whatever the norse word for hero is.

    The only issue with Norway is does it fit in with the plot, e.g. if a middle east theme it wouldnt but if a balkan/russian it could.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    No. The old norse words for 'hero' (oldungr, kappi, halr, holdr, segr) don't look and sound right for a title. Besides, I don't think the Norwegian part of the story is important enough to the plot, 20 million $ will be 5-10 % of the total budget.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    There are several words in Old Norse meaning hero, but they don't sound right for a movie title. Not to mention that EON will film for about 20 million dollars in Norway, less than ten percent of the total budget. Norway won't be one of the major locations :#
  • SharpeSharpe Posts: 84MI6 Agent
    Who knows - maybe it'll be called "DEATH FOR BREAKFAST"

    I'm calling it now; regardless of what Bond 25 is called, Bond 26 will be called "James Bond" or "Bond".
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 880MI6 Agent
    Sharpe wrote:
    I'm calling it now; regardless of what Bond 25 is called, Bond 26 will be called "James Bond" or "Bond".


    That would be the worst case scenario - bland and uncreative :#
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