Brilliant play by England, same old result. Not bad, but whenever the other team get the ball in extra time it looks dangerous. England can, at times, do flair and enthusiasm. But what they never do is cruelty. And cruelty is what you need when you are 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go.
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Not sure why Woy didn't go for the kill earlier as Russia were no threat at all. Settling for 1-0 is always asking for trouble. I'm sure Vardy, Sturridge and co would have taken one of those chances today and why was Kane taking corners?
Too many squandered chances by England, at this level you need to make them count or pay the penalty...good equaliser by Russia.
Whilst Marseille burns and heads are getting smashed in, Film Four are showing The Football Factory!
Great result for Wales, though I think England will raise their game this Thursday.
Also did anyone catch Rio Ferdinand admit to England looking for a draw in their opening tournament game when he played? Or did I mis-understand him?!?
Quite telling about England's tournament mentality I thought...
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Russia yesterday where playing a totally pathetic and old- fashioned football - a bit like Greece 2004 .
If I would be an England supporter, I would worry a lot about the obvious lack of fitness after minute 60 though. That way, you can't win such a tournament.
Sterling was a joy to watch!!
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So England didn't win OH THERES A SUPRISE all the time MR Exciting (WOY) rattles on about how good his England are ,oh we beat this ,we beat that ,yes but it was Estonia ,it was the Isle of Wight,it was the CO-OP first 11 ,Now we play a half decent team Russia ,and it all goes pear shaped .As ive said before ive nothing against England (the players) its the way England ie the FA is run ,its run by fools ,and people who havnt got a clue ,"OK Gentleman we need a new boss!" well there this guy called Greg ,he used to run the BBC so he should be the right man , I just hope England get embarrassingly sent home ,so all these twits in charge of the FA get sacked ,then we can get new people in who actually know about football and then we can be a great team again .Its no wonder the England fans want to fight all the time ,at least they can win that
My band were playing in a bar last night, supposed to be on at 9pm. Had to wait till some football game was over before we could start- probably the one mentioned above.
My band were playing in a bar last night, supposed to be on at 9pm. Had to wait till some football game was over before we could start- probably the one mentioned above.
Was you playing in Scotland Barbel? perhaps the Scots wanted a good laugh before watching a great band .
a couple of pints of heavy ,a good laugh ,and some great music ,sounds like a good time .
By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
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Also did anyone catch Rio Ferdinand admit to England looking for a draw in their opening tournament game when he played? Or did I mis-understand him?!?
He clearly meant it as a joke as they all laughed...
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Steering off the subject slightly...I see my lot are busy trying to hoover up all the latest talent to come out of Germany...
Yes, at some point they must learn how not to play successfully and what happens when a league is totally sold out to investors :v
Sir Miles - how much are you usually paying for a ticket?
So you are saying that Klopp is a bad coach ? :v
Tickets ! Way too expensive X-(
After 15 years on the waiting list I have finally been offered a season ticket for Anfield - right at the time where I can't afford one cheapest is around £700 and dearest is about £900 ! A single match ticket is about £48 X-(
There is SO much money in football and yet the fans are STILL being ripped off with match day costs....the German model (as usual) is so much better/fairer -{
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,924Chief of Staff
Russia yesterday where playing a totally pathetic and old- fashioned football - a bit like Greece 2004 .
If I would be an England supporter, I would worry a lot about the obvious lack of fitness after minute 60 though. That way, you can't win such a tournament.
Sterling was a joy to watch!!
Russia had about four of their better players missing as well !
I didn't think lack of fitness was that bad...although I thought the substitutions should have been used better...
I wouldn't have Sterling anywhere near the starting eleven ! He still has no 'end product'...he's all about pace, but just runs down 'dead ends'...Milner should have started and I'd have brought Vardy on...his pace would have been invaluable during the last half hour...
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
So, you are proud about that the PL hoovers off every german talent ( for only one reason: $$$$) and on the other hand complain that everything is so expensive? ?:) 8-)
Don't get me wrong, I'd follow the money too and the PL is quite competitive but it's not really something that you should be proud of.
Proud of, we can be of our support system for young talents, which has been started in 2004 and proud of we are about the fact that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared wih the PL and the spanish teams, which are horribly in debt - for a fraction of he PL budget.
And proud of we can be for Bayern, who are incredibly successfully - have no debt, have paid off their stadium entirely and are able to attract many first-grade players and trainers because they have been successfully and well- managed in the last 3 decades without horribly ripping their fans off {[]
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If there isn't at least one Dortmund fan who will cry about evil Bayern (who dare sign players from other clubs! ) then this forum is officially not part of the internet! )
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"- That is something to be afraid of."
Steering off the subject slightly...I see my lot are busy trying to hoover up all the latest talent to come out of Germany...
Yes, at some point they must learn how not to play successfully and what happens when a league is totally sold out to investors :v
Sir Miles - how much are you usually paying for a ticket?
So you are saying that Klopp is a bad coach ? :v
Tickets ! Way too expensive X-(
After 15 years on the waiting list I have finally been offered a season ticket for Anfield - right at the time where I can't afford one cheapest is around £700 and dearest is about £900 ! A single match ticket is about £48 X-(
There is SO much money in football and yet the fans are STILL being ripped off with match day costs....the German model (as usual) is so much better/fairer -{
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
Isnt Arsenal double that or something crazy? £££££
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,924Chief of Staff
Yes, at some point they must learn how not to play successfully and what happens when a league is totally sold out to investors :v
Sir Miles - how much are you usually paying for a ticket?
So you are saying that Klopp is a bad coach ? :v
Tickets ! Way too expensive X-(
After 15 years on the waiting list I have finally been offered a season ticket for Anfield - right at the time where I can't afford one cheapest is around £700 and dearest is about £900 ! A single match ticket is about £48 X-(
There is SO much money in football and yet the fans are STILL being ripped off with match day costs....the German model (as usual) is so much better/fairer -{
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
Isnt Arsenal double that or something crazy? £££££
Yes...and Chelsea aren't far behind either...
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,924Chief of Staff
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
So, you are proud about that the PL hoovers off every german talent ( for only one reason: $$$$) and on the other hand complain that everything is so expensive? ?:) 8-)
Don't get me wrong, I'd follow the money too and the PL is quite competitive but it's not really something that you should be proud of.
Not really sure where you get the idea that I'm 'proud' of that ?:) English clubs have to overpay - and by quite some margin - even for 'average' players...all because of the TV money. I'd rather the TV money was spent on better stadia, cheaper ticket prices and nurturing young players...
Proud of, we can be of our support system for young talents, which has been started in 2004 and proud of we are about the fact that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared wih the PL and the spanish teams, which are horribly in debt - for a fraction of he PL budget.
When you say the "Bundesliga is quite competitive" I'm assuming you don't mean the league itself ? The Bundesliga is a one horse race - two at best, the rest are nowhere.
Germany is also FAR larger than England - so should produce FAR more players at grassroots level -{
And proud of we can be for Bayern, who are incredibly successfully - have no debt, have paid off their stadium entirely and are able to attract many first-grade players and trainers because they have been successfully and well- managed in the last 3 decades without horribly ripping their fans off {[]
A bit like Man City then - the richest club in the world, who are picking off anyone they like (including the coach) from Bayern :007)
Liverpool also have 'taken' at least three of Bayern's 'backroom' staff
Also...what about all the corruption at Bayern ? Haven't they had people from the club sent to jail ?
Uli Hoeneß went to jail for tax evasion but this was in relation to his personal income from selling sausages (yes) and stock market investments. It was never alleged let alone proven that Bayern had anything to do with it.
And as crazy as it sounds a lot of people are very happy that Pep is leaving. Among other things he blamed the medical team for his own failures not once but twice, making them leave the club. Possibly some others gladly packed their suitcases as well after events like these.
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"- That is something to be afraid of."
A bit like Man City then - the richest club in the world, who are picking off anyone they like (including the coach) from Bayern :007)
Liverpool also have 'taken' at least three of Bayern's 'backroom' staff
No - totally different. It's all self-earned money. They don't have a Sheik or other big investor. And they have ZERO debt!!
Adidas, Allianz and Audi each own 8,33%, The remaining 75% are still in Club Hands.
And the cheapest tickets are at GBP 12,--
When you say the "Bundesliga is quite competitive" I'm assuming you don't mean the league itself ? The Bundesliga is a one horse race - two at best, the rest are nowhere.
Germany is also FAR larger than England - so should produce FAR more players at grassroots level ajb007/martini
Germany's population is 25% more than the UK but what counts is how you educate young talents. And there is a big difference to the UK. We're speaking of the National Teams and not teams full of legionaries: When was the last title for England, Wales or Scotland? :v
And you underestimate teams like Mönchengladbach, Leverkusen, Schalke and Wolfsburg . This year Championship was a pretty close one between Munich and Dortmund btw.
Also...what about all the corruption at Bayern ? Haven't they had people from the club sent to jail ?
Ornithologist has already replied to it. No corruption on Club Level.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
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Man City actually turned a profit this year
Admittedly after writing off nearly £500m in investment )
But they are still the richest club in the world !
I think the 'German way' is FAR superior to the English...the cost of tickets is just one way in which the Germans are years ahead -{
And I don't foresee a 'home nation' winning anything soon ! England should, at least, reach the semi-finals of major competitions - but we lack the 'mentality' needed when pulling on the England shirt - that and the fact that far too many average foreign players 'clog up the system' X-(
I don't dismiss the teams you mentioned - you could also add Hoffenheim into that mix...but, in reality, the Bundesliga is a one horse race...Bayern just buy all the best players from Dortmund (as they have again this year), and Dortmund buy what's left )
Being honest - your title race wasn't ever THAT close...Bayern won at a canter...it was the fact that Pep announced he was leaving (worst kept secret this year !) that held Bayern back and let Dortmund get close...remember that Dortmund (close 2nd in Bundesliga) was beaten by Liverpool (a distant 8th in the Premier League) - you should hang your heads in shame :v
No corruption at club level ? apologies...just at National level then...cough...cough...Beckenbauer...cough...cough...
Well there is a difference between receiving corruption and paying bribes :v to get the 2006 Cup in Germany. Like a former FIFA official said: " If here was no corruption, every tournament would be held in Germany" - so consequently they had to help a little cough cough.
My point was that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared to other l leagues - particularly we see new talents every year that soon show up in the National team.
Our 4th Bundesliga team is not worse than the PL 4th without the SEM
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
My band were playing in a bar last night, supposed to be on at 9pm. Had to wait till some football game was over before we could start- probably the one mentioned above.
Was you playing in Scotland Barbel? perhaps the Scots wanted a good laugh before watching a great band .
a couple of pints of heavy ,a good laugh ,and some great music ,sounds like a good time .
Yes, AS, in a town on the west coast called Troon. It was a great gig, and they've booked us for 3 more before Christmas.
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,924Chief of Staff
Well there is a difference between receiving corruption and paying bribes :v to get the 2006 Cup in Germany. Like a former FIFA official said: " If here was no corruption, every tournament would be held in Germany" - so consequently they had to help a little cough cough.
My point was that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared to other l leagues - particularly we see new talents every year that soon show up in the National team.
Our 4th Bundesliga team is not worse than the PL 4th without the SEM
But you only got the 2006 tournament BECAUSE you paid bribes
There is a massive drop off in quality the further down the Bundesliga you go...hence your second best team getting a spanking from our eighth best )
Unfortunately for German teams, nobody is interested in watching German football - that's why we have SEM ! )
It's just a pity we put it all in players pockets and not into the grassroots of the game
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Roger Moore 1927-2017
Because they are three different countries you moronic cockwomble.
If we all united to form one Great Britain team, then we'd keep winning everything.
13-year old me begs to differ. Scoring 5 against Oliver Kahn with 3 goals from Michael Owen alone, tell me what that is if not cruelty?
Maybe if by "all" you meant the Empire in its 1922 borders. Otherwise not likely
"- That is something to be afraid of."
I'd have him instead of Simon Mignolet any day !
Steering off the subject slightly...I see my lot are busy trying to hoover up all the latest talent to come out of Germany...
I think you'll find that was Germany 1, Liverpool 5
Even Heskey scored
Not sure why Woy didn't go for the kill earlier as Russia were no threat at all. Settling for 1-0 is always asking for trouble. I'm sure Vardy, Sturridge and co would have taken one of those chances today and why was Kane taking corners?
Whilst Marseille burns and heads are getting smashed in, Film Four are showing The Football Factory!
Great result for Wales, though I think England will raise their game this Thursday.
Also did anyone catch Rio Ferdinand admit to England looking for a draw in their opening tournament game when he played? Or did I mis-understand him?!?
Quite telling about England's tournament mentality I thought...
So the PL is an international tournament which is - like all international tournaments in Europe - organised by UEFA?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Yes, at some point they must learn how not to play successfully
Sir Miles - how much are you usually paying for a ticket?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
If I would be an England supporter, I would worry a lot about the obvious lack of fitness after minute 60 though. That way, you can't win such a tournament.
Sterling was a joy to watch!!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Was you playing in Scotland Barbel? perhaps the Scots wanted a good laugh before watching a great band .
a couple of pints of heavy ,a good laugh ,and some great music ,sounds like a good time .
He clearly meant it as a joke as they all laughed...
So you are saying that Klopp is a bad coach ?
Tickets ! Way too expensive X-(
After 15 years on the waiting list I have finally been offered a season ticket for Anfield - right at the time where I can't afford one
There is SO much money in football and yet the fans are STILL being ripped off with match day costs....the German model (as usual) is so much better/fairer -{
I believe the German teams use the acronym SEM when English clubs try to buy their players...Stupid English Money
Russia had about four of their better players missing as well !
I didn't think lack of fitness was that bad...although I thought the substitutions should have been used better...
I wouldn't have Sterling anywhere near the starting eleven ! He still has no 'end product'...he's all about pace, but just runs down 'dead ends'...Milner should have started and I'd have brought Vardy on...his pace would have been invaluable during the last half hour...
So, you are proud about that the PL hoovers off every german talent ( for only one reason: $$$$) and on the other hand complain that everything is so expensive? ?:) 8-)
Don't get me wrong, I'd follow the money too and the PL is quite competitive but it's not really something that you should be proud of.
Proud of, we can be of our support system for young talents, which has been started in 2004 and proud of we are about the fact that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared wih the PL and the spanish teams, which are horribly in debt - for a fraction of he PL budget.
And proud of we can be for Bayern, who are incredibly successfully - have no debt, have paid off their stadium entirely and are able to attract many first-grade players and trainers because they have been successfully and well- managed in the last 3 decades without horribly ripping their fans off {[]
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
"- That is something to be afraid of."
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Isnt Arsenal double that or something crazy? £££££
Yes...and Chelsea aren't far behind either...
Not really sure where you get the idea that I'm 'proud' of that ?:) English clubs have to overpay - and by quite some margin - even for 'average' players...all because of the TV money. I'd rather the TV money was spent on better stadia, cheaper ticket prices and nurturing young players...
When you say the "Bundesliga is quite competitive" I'm assuming you don't mean the league itself ? The Bundesliga is a one horse race - two at best, the rest are nowhere.
Germany is also FAR larger than England - so should produce FAR more players at grassroots level -{
A bit like Man City then - the richest club in the world, who are picking off anyone they like (including the coach) from Bayern :007)
Liverpool also have 'taken' at least three of Bayern's 'backroom' staff
Also...what about all the corruption at Bayern ? Haven't they had people from the club sent to jail ?
And as crazy as it sounds a lot of people are very happy that Pep is leaving. Among other things he blamed the medical team for his own failures not once but twice, making them leave the club. Possibly some others gladly packed their suitcases as well after events like these.
"- That is something to be afraid of."
No - totally different. It's all self-earned money. They don't have a Sheik or other big investor. And they have ZERO debt!!
Adidas, Allianz and Audi each own 8,33%, The remaining 75% are still in Club Hands.
And the cheapest tickets are at GBP 12,--
Germany's population is 25% more than the UK but what counts is how you educate young talents. And there is a big difference to the UK. We're speaking of the National Teams and not teams full of legionaries: When was the last title for England, Wales or Scotland? :v
And you underestimate teams like Mönchengladbach, Leverkusen, Schalke and Wolfsburg . This year Championship was a pretty close one between Munich and Dortmund btw.
Ornithologist has already replied to it. No corruption on Club Level.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Admittedly after writing off nearly £500m in investment
But they are still the richest club in the world !
I think the 'German way' is FAR superior to the English...the cost of tickets is just one way in which the Germans are years ahead -{
And I don't foresee a 'home nation' winning anything soon ! England should, at least, reach the semi-finals of major competitions - but we lack the 'mentality' needed when pulling on the England shirt - that and the fact that far too many average foreign players 'clog up the system' X-(
I don't dismiss the teams you mentioned - you could also add Hoffenheim into that mix...but, in reality, the Bundesliga is a one horse race...Bayern just buy all the best players from Dortmund (as they have again this year), and Dortmund buy what's left
Being honest - your title race wasn't ever THAT close...Bayern won at a canter...it was the fact that Pep announced he was leaving (worst kept secret this year !) that held Bayern back and let Dortmund get close...remember that Dortmund (close 2nd in Bundesliga) was beaten by Liverpool (a distant 8th in the Premier League) - you should hang your heads in shame :v
No corruption at club level ? apologies...just at National level then...cough...cough...Beckenbauer...cough...cough...
My point was that the Bundesliga is quite competitive compared to other l leagues - particularly we see new talents every year that soon show up in the National team.
Our 4th Bundesliga team is not worse than the PL 4th without the SEM
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Yes, AS, in a town on the west coast called Troon. It was a great gig, and they've booked us for 3 more before Christmas.
But you only got the 2006 tournament BECAUSE you paid bribes
There is a massive drop off in quality the further down the Bundesliga you go...hence your second best team getting a spanking from our eighth best
Unfortunately for German teams, nobody is interested in watching German football - that's why we have SEM !
It's just a pity we put it all in players pockets and not into the grassroots of the game
The roots for all those young talents ( and may I remind at we won WOrld Cup 2 years ago :v ) is the Bundesliga and that was my point.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!